On Dan Dakich and the dismissal at The Dagger

  • 04/01/2008 12:29 pm in

Headline alliteration is my favorite kind.

Those of you interested, I wrote a quick post this morning discussing Dan Dakich’s huge huevos for dismissing Armon Bassett and Jamarcus Ellis at the Dagger. Here’s a little taste:

The entire situation is incredibly weird: According to this report in the Indianapolis Star, the two players missed a meeting that they weren’t allowed to miss, which is not something one should be doing but which is not at all grounds for dismissal. According to the Bloomington Herald-Times, Dakich wanted the players to run sprints, and they told him they wouldn’t, another act of insubordination that’s not exactly polite but which isn’t grounds for getting the long boot goodbye, either.

Of course there’s more: Both players had disciplinary issues under former coach Kelvin Sampson that caused them to miss games, and those issues were never revealed. So Dakich’s sudden curb-kicking was seen by some last night as an administration cleaning house by using a surrogate lame-duck coach to do so; all the while Dakich gets coaching cred among Indiana’s conservative faithful for clearing the team of troublemakers. […]

Check out the whole piece if you have a chance, and feel free to leave a comment at The Dagger.

This thing is so incredibly weird. Either Dakich is acting alone, without the permission of the university and the athletic department, and just dismissing players he’ll never have a chance to coach again … or the administration is using him to clean house before they bring in a new coach. I still don’t get it. Does anyone else?

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  • Kelin Blab

    I wish TK was still on the radio, I loved the “Snack down” he did each year.
    On a side note………Dan Dakich just decided we are boycotting the Olympics til the Tibet thing is resolved.

  • easy

    This may be stupid…but who is JT? Only person that came to mind was Justin Timberlake hahaha…

  • Kelin Blab

    Here we go Pat Forde on IU…..brace yourself….

  • easy

    Wait did you listen to Rome too? Any IU talk with Miller?

  • BrianK

    IM at work and can't listen let us know please.

  • Kelin Blab

    I heard nothing….not even a question. ESPN radio is lighting us up but we deserve……we are becoming the laughing stock….

    Forde is stunned also about Dak kicking off players……….

  • easy

    Nothing new. Talked about what bad shape he's in. Named Montgomery, Kruger as potential candidates. Lawrence Frank is not. Threw out Brownell as a dark horse. Boring. And pure guesses, just like us I think.

  • BrianK

    Has there been the MIller interview?

  • Kelin Blab

    Forde has mentioned these 3 names….
    Montgmery, Kruger, and Brad Brownell……

    Here is what I believe…….a coach will be picked from these candidates…..Montgomery, Kruger, Brownell, or Grant. 50/50 chance of us getting a good coach…errrr young coach

  • easy

    I think it's going to wind up being someone that is not getting mentioned. Just a hunch. I can't believe that we are realistically looking at Monty or Kruger. I still feel like a Dixon or someone has managed to keep this quiet. Someone like that will come. Of the up-and-comers I think you're right. It'd be Brownell or Grant. I don't think Miller will come. I kinda don't think Grant would. So we'll see.

  • Kelin Blab

    Tune in….Katz is coming on next…..I will give it to Greeny and the Pabst Blue Ribbon crew they are keeping a tight lip on this thing now which is good….I don't want hear Miller and Brownell have turned us down….

  • easy

    Random thought I had today: How perfect would this have been?
    -Donovan goes to Magic
    -Grant goes to UF
    -Donovan bombs in NBA or doesn't like it, wants to come back to college
    -Donovan has a top job to walk right into and be a hero, IU has a perfect 2 time National Champion young savior.
    Sad that it didn't work out that way, huh?

  • Anonymous

    Well guys let’s Crean and bear it. I think it’s a good hire. He has done good at Marquette and theres tons of competition in the Big East. I think it’s it’s a great hire just not name popping. He’s got a solid record at Marquette and has Final Four appearance and he is till young. He kept the program Crean at Marquette and I thnk he will keep us Crean also.

  • Kelin Blab

    Just read on the Indy Star Alford still has NEVER been called and he was bothered by it…..what did he do besides suck at Iowa to NEVER get a look….he sounds a little pissed.

    http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?A

  • Kelin Blab

    Not sure if anyone read this in the wall street journal, but there is a press conference in an hour on the subprime mortgage crisis and the report says Dakich has made a decision on this too……

  • jgongora86

    I agree with everyone except bill walton, I just think he loves hearing himself talk ( he really loves to hear himself talk).

  • easy

    Katz said we are in a chaotic state. He talked to Bennett who “wrestled with it” but didn't want to get thrown into this situation. Talked about all the players we're losing. Seach is “back to square one.” Coaches want to shy away from it if they're comfortable in their current situation. Talked about Pitino taking over Kentucky when it was in similar problems. Talked about Scott Drew, said he made some sense. IU was going after Barnes, Pitino, and Matta. That was it….

  • Kelin Blab

    Heard it to easy and still nothing…..Katz usually has some good info but I don't think he knows anything at all right now either…..

  • easy

    Yeah no one knows anything at this point. I didn't like hearing we were back to square one. I guess if we contacted the major names, then they really have said no, which probably means guys like Dixon also would say no. Comfortable situations.

    It was interesting to hear Scott Drew's name thrown back out. I think people could rally around him a little bit, he can recruit like crazy. The scandal stuff wouldn't look good though. And I've seen his style. Very up and down, lots of crazy shots, bad defense. So…it's too bad because it would be nice to have a guy with Indiana ties but not necessarily IU ties come and save the program.

    Monty and Kruger I still just can't see us settling. Still don't think Miller will come. Not sure about Grant. Brownell I don't know if he'd win or has the personality for it. So…I really don't know right now. I'm pulling for the same candidates. I'll support whomever we get. I just hope it's done soon.

  • BayAreaHoosier

    only one man who can turn us around…

    jerry “the shark” tarkanian

  • xxZPxx

    I think I have read elsewhere that he can only play D2 or lower if he transfers….

  • Kelin Blab

    More good news EJ making a decision on Monday……

  • easy

    As in today or next Monday?

  • easy

    Nevermind misread it.

  • xxBHxx

    kelin or easy : can i have your job? you seem to be on the intarwebz more than I and that is astounding. =)

  • easy

    Just on in between classes waiting for the news to break. =)

  • xxZPxx

    Well I dont think the IU administration/coaching staff could have made it any easier for him to make.
    “Lets see, I can lose a little draft stock but still get paid millions of dollars and be able to carry the ball, turn it over whenever because its not a big deal in the NBA and even get an extra foul to use in the first 30 seconds of the game or…..I can return to a team of Kyle Taber, Brett Finklemeyer, Deandre Thomas etc. and a coach that doesn't exist yet.” -EJ

    It was nice knowin' ya EJ… My #23 jersey has been cursed since Keith Smart: Steve Hart (transfer), Sean Kline (Sean Kline), and Eric Gordon. Oh well, it was still nice to see him in an Indiana uniform.

  • drode

    Does anyone else wish we would have given Matt Painter that scholarship instead of Todd Leary, or is that just me?

  • Kelin Blab

    Teacher on Spring break bro….junior is at school, the misses at work…..

    Oddly enough …..I teach computers so I HAVE to be on the internet ALL freakin' day….until dak fires me ofcourse….

  • BGleas

    I'm trying to hold out hope that some upper tier coach (by upper tier I mean Dixon, Miller, Wright ect…) will take a look and realize that Indiana may be ina bad way right now, but imagine being the guy that restores Indiana basketball!!

    That's what stunned me about Bennett, if it's true that he looked at the current situation and thought it was too messy. I mean if that's true, have some confidence in your skills as a coach, man. If he had restored the Indiana program he would become a basketball god in college basketball, especially being a young good-looking guy. How could he not see that?

  • tberry

    It really doesn't matter why the players were disciplined, I'm just glad someone had the balls to tell them to sit down and shut up or leave.

    Dakich is not the equivalent of some high school substitute teacher for a day. The IU Athletic Department, with the administration's blessing, made him coach until a new one is hired. I'm sure he and his bosses have a complete understanding of what he can and can't do and what his responsibilities are. The team is his now and he is the coach.

    I find it hard to believe that any fan wants to give leadership of the team and decision makeng power to these whining basketball babies. The only responsibility they have is to obey the coach and play basketball for IU. In return they get an education. They are not the coaches.

    I hope any player or possible coach, that has the least doubt as to what their role will be at IU, either turns the job down, goes to another school or goes home and pouts.

  • easy

    Being in his 2nd year, he probably isn't sure yet of his skills. It is a tough job (trust me) that takes a lot of experience. You have to really believe in yourself and KNOW that you can do it at an extremely high level and consistently to go to Indiana. So I can't blame him, it was smart on his part if he wasn't ready.

  • BGleas

    No we don't want to leadership of the team to the players, but we also don't want to give it to an interim coach. Dakich should have the authority to discipline, but not to kick kids off the team.

    Leadership is in flux until the new FULL-TIME Head Coach is named. That coach should be brought up to speed and allowed to make a decision on how to discipline.

  • BGleas

    I hear ya, if he doesn't believe that he's ready then it was the right move. But, my point still stands on experienced guys like Dixon, Wright or some of the other experienced guys around the country.

    How can they not see that restoring glory to Indiana would be a gigantic career move.

  • drode

    This is all Eric Montross's fault!

  • BrianK

    He kicked has kicked the Head of the dept of treasury off the team for not doing laps around the Lincoln Memeorial.

  • BrianK

    Jooohhnnnn Woooden Clap..clap…clap,clap,clap

  • I don't know who the next head coach will be at IU, nor does anyone else. I do know one thing though, for IU to move forward, we the IU fans, need to support whoever the next coach may be, one hundred percent. No more factions or a divided fan base. It's time to get over ourselves, that is what i do know. IU fans haven't been in unity since Knight was fired, it's time to forget him.

  • BrianK

    We need a “Pitino-ish” coach who wants the challenge of rebuilding a storied program. A successful or quickly up and comig hungry coach. Bennett obviously doesn't have the gonads for it. Hopefully miller does. With those crazy looks he make son the sidelines I would think so.

  • Atwater

    I agree!

  • Despite reports that Miller said no, i still think he might be in the running. In fact, a lot of the coaches people have written off might also still be in the running. The “blue ribbon search committee” was sworn to secrecy, so i don't see how anyone really know anything, outside of them. BrianK, i really don't know if Pitino would leave U of L for IU, he has a top 5-10 recruiting class coming in this year with some very good players returning as well, although if there is a “mass exodus” to the NBA by some of his players, it's not out of the realm of possibility. I wonder how much he is making a year $$dollars wise and what his contract looks like. Anyone know anything about that?

  • BrianK

    I'm not saying Pitino, i don't want Pitino myself, Im just saying someone like him because he was teh type who was always hungry for a challenge. The mess at UofK didn't scare him away.

  • You said we need a “Pitino-ish” coach, well what about UMass' coach, Travis Ford?! He went from Eastern Kentucky, to UMass, and has won at both schools. He can coach, recruit, plays by the rules, very similar to Pitino and played under Pitino. I wonder why he hasn't been mentioned.

  • BrianK

    He is making around 1.5 I think but he jsut got a loyalty bonus plus his salary is going up per year and other loyalty bonus'. New stadium, awesome recruiting class. he has tons of incentives not just from his contract. I think he is in Louisville to stay which he should.

  • He also has rebuilt UMass into a respectable program again, i think he would be a really nice hire. I really don't care if he played at UK or not, at least it wasn't Purdue. IU could probably get him for relatively cheap dollars and lock him into a long term contract. Just a thought.

  • cooper

    Do we play Northwestern or Penn State next year? I'm just wondering if we will win one Big Ten game next year. Everyone is dreaming if they think a quality established coach is coming to IU at this point. reasons, too much BS to deal with and not enough money. Not to mention the fact we have no talent left on this team and no talent coming in. Crawford is the only player left and he will be gone within 2 weeks. Who is are starting 5 right now? We don't even have one.

    If IU wants to get back they need to stop thinking coaches will coach here just because its IU. They won't either come up with the money or we are going to get an average coach.

    Hopefully they hire Grant at this point, I don't know if he is a great hire but atleast he can recruit. Get a coach by Thursday so they can send Dakich packing and ask the players to come back.

  • BGleas

    I thought about him too when I saw some of their NIT win over Syracuse. I think he might need a little more seasoning. He could be a great hire for a program like our in a few years though. I'd like to see him make a NCAA tourney run at UMass first.

    Who knows, maybe with out current situation (possible sanctions and all the players leaving) the first year or two at Indiana with no expectations would qualify as that seasoning.

  • BGleas

    I think people are getting to hung up on coaches not wanting to come here because the players from last years team won't be here and it's not a great recruiting class.

    These coaches don't switch to a job like IU or any for that matter because of the current team. Almost any coach moving to new position will have to deal with defections and probably a rough first year. The switch for the possibility of building that program.

    Now your point about the mess at IU and bumbling administration is definitely valid and probably scaring off coaches.

  • As talented as Ellis and Basset might be, i don't think they need to come back if they continue to have “attitude problems”. If IU is wanting to clean up it's “image”, then getting rid of Ellis and Bassett is a good start. If they don't want to be part of the team, then so be it. North Carolina, UCLA, and other big time schools have been through stuff like this before and in a few years IU will be OK, if they get this hire right.

  • xxBHxx

    Per Bob Kravitz : Tom Crean contacted IU inquiring about the position. I wouldn't mind getting him but not until after we go after Pitino and Calapari. We have to give Calapari a run, that guy could save us.