There will be blood

  • 01/09/2008 3:11 pm in

orangekrush2.jpgI live in Chicago, IL. It’s a beautiful, progressive, vibrant city. It’s the home of George Pullman, Daniel Burnham, Jane Addams, Frank Lloyd Wright, Enrico Fermi, Saul Bellow, Carl Sandburg, Muddy Waters, Curtis Mayfield, Kanye West, Lupe Fiasco, and Barack Obama, among many many others. Living here, I am subjected to plenty of things on a daily basis, but chief among is them the fierce compression of culture here, the compacting of not only people but beliefs, histories, and heritages. Long before I arrived, those differing cultures formed something coherent, yet divisionally independent; became a Great City, one which I feel privileged to live in. I embrace this diversity wholeheartedly. It’s a beautiful thing.

But among all this embracing, there is one sect I simply can not tolerate. You probably already know who they are. Illinois fans.

Oh, I like them individually just fine. They are my friends, my friends’ parents; I would never actually claim to hate these people under any normal circumstance. I don’t hate them.

But I hate those colors on their shirts. I hate the self-righteousness around a program with nary a national championship banner hanging from the rafters of their oddly alien Assembly Hall knockoff. I hate the way they treated Eric Gordon, as if this 18-year-old kid was duty bound to them for life, as if he robbed them of their livelihood by defecting to a rival. I hate that a Peoria newspaper editor would dare call Eric Gordon a “steaming pile of two guard,” and then have the balls to apologize for it by saying he “lost his cool.” (You’re a newspaper editor! You’re not supposed to lose your cool in print! And over a high school kid, no less!) I hate their squealing over Kelvin Sampson, as if their own program’s history — even recently; Jamar Smith, anyone? — is squeaky clean. I hate the Chief. Oh, do I hate the Chief, hate the way a backwards minstrel symbol brought an entire stadium of people, many of them supposedly intelligent and college-educated, to tears.

Individually, I like all of these people. My roommate is one of them, and he’s a dear friend. But collectively, I want to — how would Borat put this? I want to crush them. I want to show no mercy. I want to (metaphorically) tear them limb from limb. This Sunday, IU has that chance.

So let this be the official ITH welcome to Illinois Week. Look lively. Sunday, we dine in hell.

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  • James

    Well being a NY transplant in San Diego, I do not know much of the rivalry besides being a conference foe..but considering the line on the game is 47 points you can be sure that there is a good chance we will completely destroy them. It should be a fun game to watch for IU fans. Go big red!!!

  • James

    Well being a NY transplant in San Diego, I do not know much of the rivalry besides being a conference foe..but considering the line on the game is 47 points you can be sure that there is a good chance we will completely destroy them. It should be a fun game to watch for IU fans. Go big red!!!

  • James

    Well being a NY transplant in San Diego, I do not know much of the rivalry besides being a conference foe..but considering the line on the game is 47 points you can be sure that there is a good chance we will completely destroy them. It should be a fun game to watch for IU fans. Go big red!!!

  • James

    Well being a NY transplant in San Diego, I do not know much of the rivalry besides being a conference foe..but considering the line on the game is 47 points you can be sure that there is a good chance we will completely destroy them. It should be a fun game to watch for IU fans. Go big red!!!

  • James

    Well being a NY transplant in San Diego, I do not know much of the rivalry besides being a conference foe..but considering the line on the game is 47 points you can be sure that there is a good chance we will completely destroy them. It should be a fun game to watch for IU fans. Go big red!!!

  • Adam

    My two best friends went to Illinois for their undergrad. One of them is a very laid back kind of guy, and doesn’t mind a little ribbing. He was a good sport about the Gordon thing, and is looking forward to the game.

    My other friend is an ass. He constantly talks about how IU sucks and Illinois is better and that our Assembly Hall is garbage and theirs is an architectural marvel. He calls IUs national championship banners old and dusty. Ironically enough, his father went to IU, something which I point out to him rather often.

    What is it about Illinois that makes their fans so annoying? Is it the wind that blows through campus like a frosty hurricane? Is it the smell of the farms from the south that sour their mood? Is it that their women just aren’t even close to as hot as the girls at IU? Really, I want answers.

    But in the meantime, I’ll settle for a dominating IU win.

  • Adam

    My two best friends went to Illinois for their undergrad. One of them is a very laid back kind of guy, and doesn’t mind a little ribbing. He was a good sport about the Gordon thing, and is looking forward to the game.

    My other friend is an ass. He constantly talks about how IU sucks and Illinois is better and that our Assembly Hall is garbage and theirs is an architectural marvel. He calls IUs national championship banners old and dusty. Ironically enough, his father went to IU, something which I point out to him rather often.

    What is it about Illinois that makes their fans so annoying? Is it the wind that blows through campus like a frosty hurricane? Is it the smell of the farms from the south that sour their mood? Is it that their women just aren’t even close to as hot as the girls at IU? Really, I want answers.

    But in the meantime, I’ll settle for a dominating IU win.

  • Adam

    My two best friends went to Illinois for their undergrad. One of them is a very laid back kind of guy, and doesn’t mind a little ribbing. He was a good sport about the Gordon thing, and is looking forward to the game.

    My other friend is an ass. He constantly talks about how IU sucks and Illinois is better and that our Assembly Hall is garbage and theirs is an architectural marvel. He calls IUs national championship banners old and dusty. Ironically enough, his father went to IU, something which I point out to him rather often.

    What is it about Illinois that makes their fans so annoying? Is it the wind that blows through campus like a frosty hurricane? Is it the smell of the farms from the south that sour their mood? Is it that their women just aren’t even close to as hot as the girls at IU? Really, I want answers.

    But in the meantime, I’ll settle for a dominating IU win.

  • Adam

    My two best friends went to Illinois for their undergrad. One of them is a very laid back kind of guy, and doesn’t mind a little ribbing. He was a good sport about the Gordon thing, and is looking forward to the game.

    My other friend is an ass. He constantly talks about how IU sucks and Illinois is better and that our Assembly Hall is garbage and theirs is an architectural marvel. He calls IUs national championship banners old and dusty. Ironically enough, his father went to IU, something which I point out to him rather often.

    What is it about Illinois that makes their fans so annoying? Is it the wind that blows through campus like a frosty hurricane? Is it the smell of the farms from the south that sour their mood? Is it that their women just aren’t even close to as hot as the girls at IU? Really, I want answers.

    But in the meantime, I’ll settle for a dominating IU win.

  • Chris

    It couldn’t have been said better. I have lived in or near Chicago for my entire life, except for my 4 years in Bloomington. The smugness of Illini fans drives me absolutely crazy and I cannot wait to see their faces at Joe’s on Sunday, if they show, when the Hoosiers absolutely dominate.

  • Chris

    It couldn’t have been said better. I have lived in or near Chicago for my entire life, except for my 4 years in Bloomington. The smugness of Illini fans drives me absolutely crazy and I cannot wait to see their faces at Joe’s on Sunday, if they show, when the Hoosiers absolutely dominate.

  • Mike

    “All there is to do in Champaign is drink, fart, and wear your ‘Chief’ shirt.”

    -WSCR’s Terry Boers, explaining the weird obsession with the Chief

  • Mike

    “All there is to do in Champaign is drink, fart, and wear your ‘Chief’ shirt.”

    -WSCR’s Terry Boers, explaining the weird obsession with the Chief

  • Ricky

    How does Bruce Weber still have a job? He made the final 4 with Bill Self’s talent, and if Self were the coach for Illinois then they would have had a much better chance of beating unc than they did with Weber. The guy can’t recruit worth shit; i mean really, Chicago right now is one of if not the best hot spots for high school basketball talent right now, and he can’t get any of them to come to Illinois.

    If we don’t win by 20 I will be upset. Remember Tennessee St? They beat Illinois. At Illinois. Northwestern probably can’t wait for their chance to play Illinois. I’d put money on Gordon going for 40. No lie

  • Ricky

    How does Bruce Weber still have a job? He made the final 4 with Bill Self’s talent, and if Self were the coach for Illinois then they would have had a much better chance of beating unc than they did with Weber. The guy can’t recruit worth shit; i mean really, Chicago right now is one of if not the best hot spots for high school basketball talent right now, and he can’t get any of them to come to Illinois.

    If we don’t win by 20 I will be upset. Remember Tennessee St? They beat Illinois. At Illinois. Northwestern probably can’t wait for their chance to play Illinois. I’d put money on Gordon going for 40. No lie

  • Weber is a wanker

    Bruce is a wanker.

  • Weber is a wanker

    Bruce is a wanker.

  • E,

    You forgot to mention the best thing about Chicago: The White Sox.

  • E,

    You forgot to mention the best thing about Chicago: The White Sox.

  • E,

    You forgot to mention the best thing about Chicago: The White Sox.

  • E,

    You forgot to mention the best thing about Chicago: The White Sox.

  • chris

    Lets name in order the teams for both basketball and football you hate as an IU fan, heres mine

    1) purdue – come on…
    2) Illinois – moving up my list fast
    3) Michigan State – the also ran in the state and Izzone just doesnt do it for me.
    4) Ohio State – the buffalo bills of the big ten, giving our conference a bad name on the big stage.
    5) Michigan – The Fag 5 was around when i was in middle school in toledo ohio. everyone was wearing baggy shorts and i hated that
    6)Iowa – nothing really against them
    7) Penn State – I dont hate them, and they kinda remind me of IU with their football programs history
    8) Minnesota – Its not a gym its a jungle!! go TUBBY!!
    9)Wisconsin – The program i most respect in college. they win the right way with student athletes and coaches that graduate players! they are really never in the news for bad things and consistently win
    10) Northwestern – They are our Token school i love them for it!!

    I am interested to see who everyone loves and hates. hope nobody minds this in the thread!

  • chris

    Lets name in order the teams for both basketball and football you hate as an IU fan, heres mine

    1) purdue – come on…
    2) Illinois – moving up my list fast
    3) Michigan State – the also ran in the state and Izzone just doesnt do it for me.
    4) Ohio State – the buffalo bills of the big ten, giving our conference a bad name on the big stage.
    5) Michigan – The Fag 5 was around when i was in middle school in toledo ohio. everyone was wearing baggy shorts and i hated that
    6)Iowa – nothing really against them
    7) Penn State – I dont hate them, and they kinda remind me of IU with their football programs history
    8) Minnesota – Its not a gym its a jungle!! go TUBBY!!
    9)Wisconsin – The program i most respect in college. they win the right way with student athletes and coaches that graduate players! they are really never in the news for bad things and consistently win
    10) Northwestern – They are our Token school i love them for it!!

    I am interested to see who everyone loves and hates. hope nobody minds this in the thread!

  • Hoosier Hound

    I don’t know when it happened. I didn’t used to hate Illinois, despite growing up just 10 miles east of the Wabash. I remember not hating them as recently as five years ago. Sure they were a Big Ten opponent and I sure didn’t aim any goodwill toward them, but hate? Nah, best saved for others like Purdue or Kentucky. Seriously, this is Illinois week? Since when does Illinois get a week? But things have changed.

    Like a festering pile of manure, they slowly started to irritate me. The stench got worse and worse and needled into my mind until nowadays I can smell them coming before we’re about to play them. It’s an awful smell too, gets in your head so that you can’t focus straight and all you want to do is destroy whatever is causing the reeking odor.

    The Hoosiers need to clear the air and send the reeking pile of crap that is Illinois back with a buttkicking to be remembered.

  • Hoosier Hound

    I don’t know when it happened. I didn’t used to hate Illinois, despite growing up just 10 miles east of the Wabash. I remember not hating them as recently as five years ago. Sure they were a Big Ten opponent and I sure didn’t aim any goodwill toward them, but hate? Nah, best saved for others like Purdue or Kentucky. Seriously, this is Illinois week? Since when does Illinois get a week? But things have changed.

    Like a festering pile of manure, they slowly started to irritate me. The stench got worse and worse and needled into my mind until nowadays I can smell them coming before we’re about to play them. It’s an awful smell too, gets in your head so that you can’t focus straight and all you want to do is destroy whatever is causing the reeking odor.

    The Hoosiers need to clear the air and send the reeking pile of crap that is Illinois back with a buttkicking to be remembered.

  • Hoosier Hound

    I don’t know when it happened. I didn’t used to hate Illinois, despite growing up just 10 miles east of the Wabash. I remember not hating them as recently as five years ago. Sure they were a Big Ten opponent and I sure didn’t aim any goodwill toward them, but hate? Nah, best saved for others like Purdue or Kentucky. Seriously, this is Illinois week? Since when does Illinois get a week? But things have changed.

    Like a festering pile of manure, they slowly started to irritate me. The stench got worse and worse and needled into my mind until nowadays I can smell them coming before we’re about to play them. It’s an awful smell too, gets in your head so that you can’t focus straight and all you want to do is destroy whatever is causing the reeking odor.

    The Hoosiers need to clear the air and send the reeking pile of crap that is Illinois back with a buttkicking to be remembered.

  • Hoosier Hound

    I don’t know when it happened. I didn’t used to hate Illinois, despite growing up just 10 miles east of the Wabash. I remember not hating them as recently as five years ago. Sure they were a Big Ten opponent and I sure didn’t aim any goodwill toward them, but hate? Nah, best saved for others like Purdue or Kentucky. Seriously, this is Illinois week? Since when does Illinois get a week? But things have changed.

    Like a festering pile of manure, they slowly started to irritate me. The stench got worse and worse and needled into my mind until nowadays I can smell them coming before we’re about to play them. It’s an awful smell too, gets in your head so that you can’t focus straight and all you want to do is destroy whatever is causing the reeking odor.

    The Hoosiers need to clear the air and send the reeking pile of crap that is Illinois back with a buttkicking to be remembered.

  • Kevin

    Purdue and Kentucky I hate, but I at least respect them which I feel is normal for rivalries.

    I hate Illinois and have NO respect for them at all.

    Also, Big A, damn straight about the White Sox.

  • Kevin

    Purdue and Kentucky I hate, but I at least respect them which I feel is normal for rivalries.

    I hate Illinois and have NO respect for them at all.

    Also, Big A, damn straight about the White Sox.

  • Kevin

    Purdue and Kentucky I hate, but I at least respect them which I feel is normal for rivalries.

    I hate Illinois and have NO respect for them at all.

    Also, Big A, damn straight about the White Sox.

  • T

    Ricky: Weber is horrible at recruiting, but I disagree that Bill Self would have had a better chance at beating UNC in the title game that year. Self’s teams at Kansas are FAR more talented then that U of I team was and he hasn’t been able to get them into the final four.

    That being said, Weber is a baby, the Cryin’ Illini fans are the biggest bandwagon jumpers in the nation and I can’t wait to go to the game on Sunday and watch IU dominate.

  • T

    Ricky: Weber is horrible at recruiting, but I disagree that Bill Self would have had a better chance at beating UNC in the title game that year. Self’s teams at Kansas are FAR more talented then that U of I team was and he hasn’t been able to get them into the final four.

    That being said, Weber is a baby, the Cryin’ Illini fans are the biggest bandwagon jumpers in the nation and I can’t wait to go to the game on Sunday and watch IU dominate.

  • T

    Ricky: Weber is horrible at recruiting, but I disagree that Bill Self would have had a better chance at beating UNC in the title game that year. Self’s teams at Kansas are FAR more talented then that U of I team was and he hasn’t been able to get them into the final four.

    That being said, Weber is a baby, the Cryin’ Illini fans are the biggest bandwagon jumpers in the nation and I can’t wait to go to the game on Sunday and watch IU dominate.

  • Gary Clipp

    I remember 50 years ago sitting on the bluffs near Merom; “Grandad”, I said, “they call us ‘Hoosiers’, what do they call the people across the river?”

    The man who never lied to me said . . . “Suckers”

  • Gary Clipp

    I remember 50 years ago sitting on the bluffs near Merom; “Grandad”, I said, “they call us ‘Hoosiers’, what do they call the people across the river?”

    The man who never lied to me said . . . “Suckers”

  • Gary Clipp

    I remember 50 years ago sitting on the bluffs near Merom; “Grandad”, I said, “they call us ‘Hoosiers’, what do they call the people across the river?”

    The man who never lied to me said . . . “Suckers”

  • Luke

    Nice thread E. For this game the key is getting off to a fast start a keep the pedal to the metal till the final horn. Throw sportsmanship out the window and run the score up as high as we can. Can’t wait to dine in Hell on Sunday!

    GO HOOSIERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Luke

    Nice thread E. For this game the key is getting off to a fast start a keep the pedal to the metal till the final horn. Throw sportsmanship out the window and run the score up as high as we can. Can’t wait to dine in Hell on Sunday!

    GO HOOSIERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Luke

    Nice thread E. For this game the key is getting off to a fast start a keep the pedal to the metal till the final horn. Throw sportsmanship out the window and run the score up as high as we can. Can’t wait to dine in Hell on Sunday!

    GO HOOSIERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Sherron Wilkerson

    ILLINOIS DESERVES NO WEEK: Should be the headline of this article. I still pay no attention to Illinois, there like the midget that you put your hand on their forehead while they angrily swing away at your pecker, they are funny to me. Its hilarious that they hate us so much and think they are great. I mean besides Kendall Gill and Co. they have blown since I was a kid (sure Self struck gold with Deron Williams and those boys but he bounced on them and they won nothing)

  • Sherron Wilkerson

    ILLINOIS DESERVES NO WEEK: Should be the headline of this article. I still pay no attention to Illinois, there like the midget that you put your hand on their forehead while they angrily swing away at your pecker, they are funny to me. Its hilarious that they hate us so much and think they are great. I mean besides Kendall Gill and Co. they have blown since I was a kid (sure Self struck gold with Deron Williams and those boys but he bounced on them and they won nothing)

  • kelin

    I am not an advocate of running up the score at any level of sport…OTHER than against Illinois and the Pats.

    Whomever said EJ could score 40, it would not surprise me either and I have seen EJ play in a game with a “I am going to light your ass up tonight” chip on his shoulder…..and guess who else saw this same game…Illinois guard Mr. Jordan. EJ knew who was in the stands, he knew Loyola of CHicago seemed to be good but he knew the ESPN lights were on and he DOMINATED.

    Bruce, get your whining together. Deandre be ready for a hard fould on EJ at some point…IU faithful after the Colts beat SD and there mouths by 3 TD’s get ready to cap off your day with a 31 point drubbing of Illinois.

    THIS ONE IS PERSONAL

  • kelin

    I am not an advocate of running up the score at any level of sport…OTHER than against Illinois and the Pats.

    Whomever said EJ could score 40, it would not surprise me either and I have seen EJ play in a game with a “I am going to light your ass up tonight” chip on his shoulder…..and guess who else saw this same game…Illinois guard Mr. Jordan. EJ knew who was in the stands, he knew Loyola of CHicago seemed to be good but he knew the ESPN lights were on and he DOMINATED.

    Bruce, get your whining together. Deandre be ready for a hard fould on EJ at some point…IU faithful after the Colts beat SD and there mouths by 3 TD’s get ready to cap off your day with a 31 point drubbing of Illinois.

    THIS ONE IS PERSONAL

  • Luke

    Kelin, I agree THIS ONE IS VERY PERSONAL. I just hope EJ doesn’t come out TOO hyped up and put to much pressure on him self. But who am I kidding He’s F##king ERIC GORDON so that won’t be a problem.

    GO HOOSIERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KICK SOME ILLINI ASS!!!

  • Luke

    Kelin, I agree THIS ONE IS VERY PERSONAL. I just hope EJ doesn’t come out TOO hyped up and put to much pressure on him self. But who am I kidding He’s F##king ERIC GORDON so that won’t be a problem.

    GO HOOSIERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KICK SOME ILLINI ASS!!!

  • kelin

    Luke I am not sure if we would even notice EJ if he was over hyped…the damn kid always has that same “I just woke up, but I can score on your ass when I cross half court” look on his damn face. The few times when he shows emotion it is never over done on celebratory….although I did see him dunk on someone and stand over them breifly….but other than that I guess scoring 40 on them would say enough…..

    Here is that dunk by the way…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW0Vg6Hs-0c

  • kelin

    Luke I am not sure if we would even notice EJ if he was over hyped…the damn kid always has that same “I just woke up, but I can score on your ass when I cross half court” look on his damn face. The few times when he shows emotion it is never over done on celebratory….although I did see him dunk on someone and stand over them breifly….but other than that I guess scoring 40 on them would say enough…..

    Here is that dunk by the way…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW0Vg6Hs-0c

  • kelin

    Luke I am not sure if we would even notice EJ if he was over hyped…the damn kid always has that same “I just woke up, but I can score on your ass when I cross half court” look on his damn face. The few times when he shows emotion it is never over done on celebratory….although I did see him dunk on someone and stand over them breifly….but other than that I guess scoring 40 on them would say enough…..

    Here is that dunk by the way…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW0Vg6Hs-0c

  • kelin

    Luke I am not sure if we would even notice EJ if he was over hyped…the damn kid always has that same “I just woke up, but I can score on your ass when I cross half court” look on his damn face. The few times when he shows emotion it is never over done on celebratory….although I did see him dunk on someone and stand over them breifly….but other than that I guess scoring 40 on them would say enough…..

    Here is that dunk by the way…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW0Vg6Hs-0c

  • kelin

    Luke I am not sure if we would even notice EJ if he was over hyped…the damn kid always has that same “I just woke up, but I can score on your ass when I cross half court” look on his damn face. The few times when he shows emotion it is never over done on celebratory….although I did see him dunk on someone and stand over them breifly….but other than that I guess scoring 40 on them would say enough…..

    Here is that dunk by the way…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW0Vg6Hs-0c