POTB 199: A season preview with ESPN’s John Gasaway

  • 10/25/2017 3:40 pm in

Podcast on the Brink is back for a new episode with hosts Jerod Morris of The Assembly Call and Alex Bozich of Inside the Hall. The show is available weekly.

In this edition of the show, Morris and Bozich are joined by John Gasaway of ESPN.com to preview Indiana’s 2017-2018 season and the Big Ten conference race. Among the topics discussed:

· Prior to John’s appearance, Alex and Jerod briefly recap Hoosier Hysteria
· John’s recent piece on why the college game is trending in the right direction on the court
· The impact of the Big Ten moving up its conference tournament by a week
· What John expects to be the biggest difference this season with Indiana basketball from a season ago
· Whether John agrees with the preseason expectations for the Hoosiers
· Why John believes the arc of improvement for Archie will be quick in Bloomington
· How the unbalanced schedule affects the conference standings
· John’s thoughts on the Big Ten expanding to 20 games next season
· Which Big Ten team John is most excited to watch (other than Michigan State)

And much, much more. As always, feel free to drop the show a note at [email protected].

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  • iugradmark

    Really good discussion. Thanks guys for another great show! The question that Alex asked about Archie’s early teams at Dayton being better on offense v. defense was one I have had for a while. I liked the fact that the thinking is that it will take less time at Indiana with the players and recruits he has coming in to get to elite level on defense. Thanks again.

  • bball at nick’s

    With all my respect for John Gasaway (he’s doing his job after all, and therefore has to see the forest and not the trees), his is the typical outsider-looking-in assessment that sees IU ranking 9th to 10th in the B1G. Snore, lol. The only insider “passion” that I got from the show is Alex’s assessment of Devonte. Even if it’s only Hoosier Hysteria, the nuances and intangibles are there to see, and only an observer feeling the energies of the players and coaches up close can begin to envision a higher ranking for us.

  • david r

    If we finish lower than 8th, then…well, we won’t dadgumit! It all about the bid anyway, to me.

  • TomJameson

    I’ve actually taken flak for saying that this team is full of experienced players that will be able to pick up the defense faster than some think. I’ve been saying that since the beginning, but keep getting told that it will take 2 to three years to get there. I just don’t believe it. I think the defense will start a little spotty right away, but by the end of this season will be something the IU nation will be proud of … just for the consistency if nothing else. NEXT year, the defense will start off even better, but will continue to tighten up through the season.

    So, this season will show a better defense than last season, and next season IU will be rocking it. Just my prediction, but we all will have to wait and see. 🙂

  • N71

    …not directly related to the piece above but yesterday was an interesting day on Sports247 when it comes to “projections” on where recruits are leaning. There were 2 new “Indiana” projections for Romeo that pushes us up to 79% and Darius received 3 new IU projections pushing us into a tie now with Vanderbilt, each with 36%. Ironically I’ve felt the Romeo commitment is going to be more difficult but its this most recent activity that’s telling versus the total stat. If for example we’re only tied with Vanderbilt at 36% yet the last 4 predictions in recent days say IU that’s more relevant for sure. If we do indeed get Romeo and Darius to come along with the already committed guys and then add in Race…not sure I can think of a greater class ever at IU. I say that based on rankings, not what they’ve accomplished in college, which of course is impossible at this point. Regardless, the future is certainly looking bright for Archie and his staff.

  • bball at nick’s

    Absolutely, this is big news!

  • HuntinHoosier86

    I felt the same way about Gasaway’s opinion on Indiana. Granted, I’ve been an IU bball fan my entire life, but I just don’t see being NINTH in the Big Ten by the end of the season! I would say we finish around 5th-6th. JMHO.

  • HuntinHoosier86

    YEAH! I saw Jerry Meyer updated his projections on this and had to do a double take! It seems like IU is the current favorite among those two recruits. I have a really good gut feeling about this.

  • WhatsUpKnight2.0

    i agree, was really smart how they took care of the potential recruits. the way the fans show up for hoosier hysteria en masse, it’s a huge selling point, and CM took advantage. not surprising the crystal ball for those two looking much better now.

    quick question for my nerdier fellow ITHers who are good at crunching numbers, will it be an issue squeezing those two into the ’18 class? how much room is left?

  • Missing Moye

    Right now, only one spot is available. Certainly they could (and would) oversign if both wanted to come to IU. Then we would have to rely on the “it will work itself out” method, in which someone would transfer at the end of the season or be an early entry into the pro ranks.

  • WhatsUpKnight2.0

    thanks MM! being oversigned by 1 really doesn’t seem like much of a big deal these days. actually probly not a bad idea. certainly don’t want to speculate on who might be involved in the ‘working out’ process.

  • iugradmark

    Tom, I hope you are right. The thread on watching practice sort of brought it home to me that from Seniors to the Freshmen, everyone is learning and there is no baseline of understanding to work from. I think these are good kids and they have high basketball IQ so am hoping that they figure it out this season but I am beginning to temper my short term expectations.

  • bball at nick’s

    Especially that 75% of practice is being devoted to defense. I don’t think we would be committing such a high proportion of practice time and resources if we aren’t expecting immediate returns.

  • Arch Puddington

    If I was to say “yes, but…” to you and Tom, it would be as follows:

    I have argued here at some length — not with you or Tom that I recall — that defense takes just as much skill to coach as offense. My original comments along these lines came in response to some comments from Fran Fraschilla, who attended one of CTC’s practices and remarked that he had never seen someone spend so much time on offense, and that that was OK because defense was easier to coach. It isn’t, and even though the results spoke for themselves, a number of posters wanted to argue that defense just boils down to effort and determination.

    That may be true of individual defense in one-on-one setting, but it is certainly NOT true of high level team defense. Even man-to-man defense involves a huge amount of coordination. Switching, rotating, hedging, sagging, and all the other subtleties of effective defense take just as much communication and balance as offense. The biggest difference is that one can memorize set plays on offense, whereas defense is always a reaction. But that just makes it all the more important that the players are well schooled in the art of moving as one.

    It is no doubt for those reasons that many people, including Archie himself, have said it will take time. No reason for it to take three years, but after all the neglect and ineffectual coaching the players have had in recent years, I am certain it will not be great right away.

  • Arch Puddington

    The margins between great team play and mediocre team play are tiny. Just a moment of hesitation or a slight misread is all it takes to foul up a possession at either end of the floor. New systems and new practice routines almost certainly mean it will take some time to get things as finely tuned as they need to be to compete with top teams. I have no idea how long that is, but as Tom and others have said, we should definitely see progress as the year goes on.

  • bball at nick’s

    I understand what you are saying. I’m not sure why you seem to assume that we are underestimating what it takes to teach good defense and that defenses move as a unit. I also don’t think offense is based less on reaction. Set offensive plays start as such, but inevitably will have to react to the opposing defense once the play is set in motion.

  • Arch Puddington

    Sorry, I wasn’t assuming that YOU don’t understand these things, I was just re-iterating a point I had made elsewhere. And I can assure you that there are those who DO underestimate what it takes, because they argued with me when I made that point. (And I guess you’d have to say that CTC and Fran Fraschilla underestimate it as well….). So I was in effect speaking to others through my post to you.

    And I didn’t say that offense doesn’t take reaction. But offenses do more than make the first move. Particularly in the kind of modified dribble-drive that CTC and many others run these days, there are hundreds of set plays that not only establish the shape or formation of the teams at the outset of the play, they are often working towards a known objective (i.e. a particular point of attack, a designated shot, etc). Yes, they have to move in reaction to the defense, but even then they have the advantage because they know what end result they are seeking. The defense can initiate to some extent by trapping or clogging the lanes the offense is trying to create, but the ratio of action/reaction is essentially reversed. Or so I see it.

  • bball at nick’s

    Thanks, you are a school in your own right! I’m not a coach or an expert, but I’m guessing the zone defense is more proactive and less reactionary, at least in principle.

  • Geoff_85

    I guess it’s hard for me to understand that Indiana has “Tourney contention talent” yet it’s appropriate to say they’ll finish 9th or 10th in the Big Ten. I get why he’s saying it – the adjustment period on defense, losing a few important pieces to the NBA, etc. – I just don’t buy it. I think they’ll adjust quickly to Coach Miller’s defense, and I think they have players on the roster that can (and hopefully WILL) step up to fill the void left by the NBA departures. I believe Indiana will surprise the national pundits.