Around the Hall: Coaches weigh in on potential change to transfer rules

  • 09/07/2017 8:28 am in

Around the Hall is recommended reading from the Inside the Hall staff.

College coaches, including Indiana’s Archie Miller, have come out strong in opposition to potential transfer rules changes. Evan Daniels of Scout.com put together a column with his thoughts as well as input from coaches:

247 Sports’ Andrew Slater had the initial story and the NCAA later confirmed with a release on their website: “An academic transfer standard for all students that would tie one-time immediate eligibility for competition after transfer to a set of academic benchmarks instead of to in what sport the student-athlete competes.”

Let me make my stance on the issue clear: Allowing transfers to be immediately eligible would be detrimental to the sport. You can’t convince me otherwise. It would be and create absolute, utter chaos.

“It would turn into one of the dirtiest recruiting periods that you’ve ever seen,” Indiana coach Archie Miller told Scout.

Zach Osterman of The Indianapolis Star examines how the Archie (Miller) pizza was born in Bloomington:

The imported pepperoni gives it a classic feel, the still-seeded jalapeños a little bite. The fresh mushrooms? A nice finishing touch.

That’s what you’ll get on “The Archie,” the newest specialty pie offered by popular Bloomington pizzeria Mother Bear’s. A tribute to new Indiana University coach — and, it turns out, Mother Bear’s enthusiast — Archie Miller, the pizza is cheesy, tangy and a reminder of just how quickly Miller appears to be fitting into his new surroundings.

Five-star New Albany guard Romeo Langford talked with USA Today about what drives him to continue to improve:

“Thinking about the outcome of what could happen if I continue to work hard. My ultimate goal is to make it to the NBA and when I’m in the gym and in games I just try and focus on working harder. Every play, every possession, every rep I just try and go harder because I know that pushing it more and more will put me in the best position to accomplish my goal one day.”

Thousands of packages are arriving in Houston after Kelvin Sampson asked for help from around the country to aid those affected by Hurricane Harvey:

“We’ve gone from tennis shoes and T-shirts to diapers and phone chargers, toiletries, nice polos, sandals, shower shoes, all kinds of things,” Sampson said. “We’re not turning anything down. … We’re fortunate enough that we’ve got a place to store our stuff, and over time, we’ll get every item that comes into us, we’ll get it to the right spot. Whether it’s Rockport, Corpus Christi to the south, or Beaumont, Port Arthur, Lake Charles to the east, or the Woodlands area to the north, we’ve become adept at working with government agencies, state agencies, getting this stuff out to the right people. To do that, you’ve got to have a great staff. My staff has been unbelievable.”

In what could end up being a precedent setting situation, LaVar Ball told ESPN.com that a signature shoe for his son, LaMelo, is more important than his future NCAA eligibility:

If having a signature shoe ultimately costs 16-year-old LaMelo Ball his NCAA eligibility, his father, LaVar Ball, isn’t worried about it.

Given a choice between one or the other, LaVar said the priority is the shoe.

“He’s going to have a shoe,” LaVar said Saturday night during his son’s 16th birthday party, held at an event space at the Chino Airport. “NCAA ain’t going to tell me s—. Because they’re not my boss. That’s what they do, but they’re not going to be like, ‘Oh, LaVar, you can’t bring that shoe out until we tell you.’ What? Something that I’m doing for my family? That’s mine? I’m not under no umbrella.”

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  • iufan1957

    Never happen. Too much money involved.

  • iufan1957

    Love my college basketball, please don’t screw it up!

  • Kurk Bright

    This transfer change is a giant step in the wrong direction. If I were in charge (still waiting on that callback) basketball would change to the baseball scholly rules; you want to play in college, you commit to at least two years. If you don’t wanna play in college, you can go straight from high school to the pro’s. This is like pro contracts with every contract one-year.

  • IU Hoosiers # 34, 1979-83

    Exactly, hence the word “imagine”

  • Ole Man

    Politely disagree — everyday world is nothing like the athletic/academic world; you’re contrasting apples with oranges.
    Can you be recruited for your job, then be not quite good enough, yet, still get paid with a four year education for practicing but never really contributing?
    Nope.

  • marcusgresham

    The thing there is, the NCAA would probably love that rule as well, but it’s not up to them. They have that rule in baseball because that’s MLB’s decision. Until the NBA adopts something similar there’s nothing the NCAA can do.

  • bleeding crimson

    Two years later, NCAA change the counting of calls, and we turned ourselves in. what a joke.

  • bleeding crimson

    Are you kidding me, Ole Man has been on here from the get go, You might not always agree but is a straight shooter.

  • bleeding crimson

    Wow, this rule is really getting stupid fast. What is the limit for a team? Talk about Mutiny….kids could actually control the coach with blackmail, treats of leaving, etc. Whoever thought of this rule needs to be…….

  • bball at nick’s

    Well, exactly, it’s unfair to whoever is funding the transfer player’s scholly to be spending money on a player who is banned from playing in real games.

  • Logical Lurker

    Amen. Baseball rules unless there’s a coaching change or extenuating circumstances.

    I can almost hear a certain coach pitching “I’ll get you to NBA in just one more year. No way that’ll happen where you’re at with less exposure and talent around you … “

  • bball at nick’s

    Yes, but coaches in the overwhelming number of cases make these decisions responsibly and according to what’s best for the program, team, school and the player’s education. And don’t you think it would have been better for Gelon if he could play right away for a Division I team this year?

  • level 42

    Maybe the NCAA could change the scholarship rules. Make different scholarship contracts and let the athletes decide which to accept. If an athlete wants to have more options, then cut payments on scholarships.

  • TomJameson

    Oh I agree completely. I think the coach’s job isn’t anything like the student/athlete position in school. And, I’m completely against mid-season transfers of the players.

  • TomJameson

    Just to throw this out there, but my understanding is the proposed rule change would …
    #1 – NOT allow mid-season transfers.
    #2 – Only allow a transfer without sitting out, as a one-time option for the player.

    I’m NOT saying that I’m in favor of this, just that that portion is supposedly not on the table. I think the transfer rules can be eased up in the case of a coach going somewhere else, but not “just because”

  • Geoff_85

    I am as well, but I think they should be able to transfer at the END of the season with immediate eligibility if the coach resigns or is fired mid-season. Recruits that have signed an LOI to a school are able to transfer if the coach gets fired/resigns before the season starts, right?

  • Geoff_85

    I don’t think we would have. He was a really important piece on that team.

  • TomJameson

    Right, as long as they haven’t enrolled (or is it started classes?). That and the grad-student transfers are the only ones without waiting periods.

  • VanPastorMan

    Yeah, but he did it at the time and ruined our program.