Around the Hall: Next season’s roster, draft workouts, more

  • 05/23/2017 8:05 am in

Around the Hall is recommended reading from the Inside the Hall staff.

Archie Miller was a guest on Jon Rothstein’s College Hoops Today podcast on Monday and said that next season could be “trial by error” early on for the Hoosiers:

Who will start?

Who will be featured?

These are all things that Miller is going to figure out.

“It’s going to be trial by error early,” Miller said Monday on the College Hoops Today Podcast. “We’re going to need to find out at the beginning of next season who can play and who can’t. Those things will all play themselves out.”

Zach Osterman of The Indianapolis Star writes that an experience-heavy roster could ease the transition next season for Miller:

With Johnson’s return, IU’s senior class, five players deep, will offer Miller perhaps as many as three full-time starters.

Johnson, Newkirk and Hartman have all been frequent starters during their Indiana careers. Johnson and Newkirk were staples in IU’s backcourt last season, while Hartman was a regular on the Hoosiers’ 2016 Big Ten title squad (and would’ve been last season but for injury). McSwain was a reserve, while Priller was a bit-part player last winter, though both could grow their roles under the new staff.

Robert Johnson made an official announcement that he will return for his senior season on Monday, Mike Miller of The Herald-Times wrote:

Johnson had until Wednesday to decide whether to continue with his professional aspirations or return to school. Johnson tweeted last week that he was not yet ready to announce his future plans after a report surfaced that he would return to IU.

Now he’s officially back.

Johnson has started 87 of the 98 games he’s played during the past three seasons, averaging 10.0 points per game for his career. He posted 12.8 points per game last season as a junior, a figure that might have been higher if not for a prolonged shooting slump that bogged Johnson during the second half of the regular season.

Thomas Bryant worked out for the Los Angeles Lakers on Monday:

A 6’10, 245 pound center out of Indiana, Bryant is one of the few in that group currently projected to go anywhere from the end of the first round to the middle of the second in most mock drafts. The Lakers, of course, have the 28th pick in this years draft (acquired via trade from the Houston Rockets), to go along with their No. 2 pick.

OG Anunoby is aggressively rehabbing in an effort to play next season in the NBA, Shams Charania of Yahoo! Sports and The Vertical writes:

Four months into his rehab for a torn ACL, Anunoby has progressed to set shots and jumping. The 6-foot-8 forward is expected to start running soon and participate in more basketball-related activities in June. When most college students were preoccupied with classwork, Anunoby was working toward a successful comeback on the court and once again being the dynamic athlete who is projected to be a lottery selection.

“I have a lot of motivation because I know a lot of players have came back better than ever, and I want to do the same,” Anunoby told The Vertical. “This has been the chance for me to work on ball-handling, my shooting mechanics, shooting consistency, free-throw shooting, creating for others and myself, defending position-less basketball – those are the keys for me at the next level.

“My rehab has been going great, doing a lot of strength drills and core work. I can do set shots, and now I need to get more dynamic as the months continue. I’ll be jogging, shooting, working on my strength soon. I want people to know how hardworking of a player I am.”

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  • TomJameson

    Man… I don’t think anybody looked really great in that video. 🙁

    I really hope OG and TB really do well. Love OG’s attitude and work ethic. If he’s been working on, and improving, all the things he listed, he’s likely to do real well in the NBA.

  • Sherronhasaheadache

    Justin Smith will be a starter by the big ten season if not sooner

  • Chris Collins

    Over juwan Morgan and de’ron Davis? I doubt it. He’ll be the sixth man with green

  • WhatsUpKnight2.0

    i think he’s physically ready today, not sure he’ll adjust to the speed and overall level of competition that quickly though. i hope so, but just don’t see it

  • Senor

    If TB goes to the Lakers, I want to see a reality show of he and Julius Randle both trying to “out-energy” each other. Who has more energy at the grocery? Who brings it hardest at the DMV? I want lots of shouting. “LA Turnt”

  • John D Murphy

    I was going to ask “over CH?”.

  • John D Murphy

    My Ten player rotation
    Starters
    Rojo 25 mpg
    JN 25
    CH 25
    JM 30
    DD 25
    Bench
    DG 15
    Cujo 15
    JS 15
    FM 15
    TP 5
    Not in the regular rotation: GG, AD, CM 5 combined

  • Donnie Vick

    Depends on CH’s recovery I think.

  • Ole Man

    I doubt you can get 30 minutes out of JM.
    That’s a lot for a big man; and he plays with such intensity. Plus, he has to cut down on his fouls.
    Let’s hope you’re right.

  • John D Murphy

    I think a lot of the interior fouling will be cut down automatically by having ball pressure from the guards (which has not been seen from IU in a decade). Might be a little rocky at first but it will be better by B1G.

  • adam

    i think newkirk and johnson will both get more minutes than that
    hartman is about right
    morgan will probably not get quite to 30. i think just under 25
    i think davis will still struggle to get more than 20 minutes
    green i think gets more than that
    not sure how the minutes will fall with cujo, smith or mcswain. maybe a matchup thing.

    i personally think newkirk will approach yogi minutes and land somewhere between 30-35. maybe its just me but i expect some really good game from newkirk this season.

    if there are 2 people above 30 minutes per game i expect it to be rob and newkirk. not really out on a limb there since theyre the starting guards. i think green will get 20-25 mpg with them.

  • marcusgresham

    Did I miss something about Zach McRoberts not coming back? Surely you think he’ll play more than Priller.

  • SCHoosier

    Hope TB did better in his try out that the dibble shoot portion. Pressure = alone on the floor shooting with Magic watching!

  • inLinE6

    I seriously doubt it. We have a few options on 3 and I can’t see him starting ahead of the upper classmen. But I agree he’ll see important minutes off the bench.

  • inLinE6

    You forgot the student managers and potentially one or two from the football team. LOL.

  • inLinE6

    If Caleb Swanigan does return, you gotta think he’s anticipating that final matchup with Priller. So yeah I think Priller gets more minutes than ZM at least in the Purdue game.

  • Arch Puddington

    I know its just an early projection, but a couple of things stand out as pretty unlikely:

    1. 25 minutes for DD is pretty optimistic. He fouls like he’s being paid for each one. Don’t have time to add it all up, but at a glance it looks like he was averaging a foul for every 5 minutes of playing time even at the end of the season. Even if he’s better next year — which is likely, but not certain; some players (HMP, for example) never get the timing right — he’ll be doing all he can to average 25 minutes. Hopefully CM’s defensive scheme helps him out in that regard.
    2. If DG only averages 15 minutes/game, something will have gone wrong. He averaged just shy of 20 minutes over the last 13 games of last season, and that was with JBJ in the lineup. The door is wide open for him to take on more minutes.
    3. Unlikely that we have 9 guys average 15 minutes. Only one team in the entire B1G (Michigan State) had that many players average 15 minutes last year. In fact, 12 of the 14 teams had 7 or fewer players average that many.

  • SilentBob

    Personally believe RJs status as leading returning scorer and 3 year starter has to put him at north of 30 a game.

  • John D Murphy

    Truthfully I forgot about ZM, but I don’t think he’ll get more than TP.

  • John D Murphy

    My thought process (which could be totally off base) is that Archie will play fewer (much fewer) minutes with 3 guard line ups unless forced so their will be fewer guard minutes to go around. And, that DG and Cujo will both improve enough that they demand significant time.

  • John D Murphy

    Fair point about the 9 guys. My feeling about DG’s minutes is that we will play fewer 3 guard line ups this year than TC did in the past (my opinion). But it isn’t that I don’t think DG is deserving of minutes.

  • Mark Bando

    “It’s going to be trial by error early” says Archie. So I expect this rotation to change alot in the beginning. What Arch says below about the door being wide open for DG is true for alot of the guys in this lineup. It will be interesting to see who rises to the top. Besides RJ, I’m expecting it from DD and JM and a healthy CH. But’s there’s no reason it couldn’t be JN, DG, Cujo or JS.

  • adam

    green was already commanding significant time at the end of the season

  • Outoftheloop

    My thought exactly! He is very athletic and potentially a big time scorer with good defense and rebounding!

  • Outoftheloop

    No. He and Collin can split the 3 minutes. Freddie and Tim can take the “Big” minutes when Juwan and DeRon have to sit.

  • Outoftheloop

    Robert 25, Josh 20, Collin 20, Juwan 25, DeRon 25, Devonte up to 25,Justin up to 20, Curtis 15, Freddie 15, Tim 10. But we have to get Moore on the floor to see his “game”. He could really help IU this year. Hopefully both Grant and Durham can redshirt=0 minutes, this year and be really ready next season. All of these projections are, of course, meaningless. Archie will ride his “hot hand”, go with his best matchups in each game, and use “trial and error” as he should!

  • TomJameson

    I think a lot of people are underestimating Al Durham. He is the kind of player that will flourish under Archie. Big guard, slashes to the rim well, draws fouls, and can knock them down (73% FT).

    I used to think that CH would be starting the season with “monitored” minutes, but I’ve been hearing that he’s going to easily be ready to go by seasons start. So I might insert him into my lineup and back off (just a little) from my 3-guard lineup. Although we’ll see that often enough, we won’t start with it as much as I thought.

    IMO, we have seven 7-8 players that can start, so anybody’s lineups can be right. lol Archie said basically that it would be a bunch of trial and error. Sounds like a lot of inter-squad competition is in order.

  • John D Murphy

    That’s true but there were almost 120 guard minutes to go around (at least 115) as we were in the 3 guard set almost all of the time. I hope that isn’t the case this year.

  • John D Murphy

    Swanigan is taking it down to the wire. Still hasn’t announced. Hopefully, he had a terrific workout for Orlando today and announces tonight he is staying in the draft.

  • inLinE6

    CH wouldn’t have returned if he doesn’t believe he’d be 100% by season start. As for AD, he drives well and defends hard. That alone would earn him some early minutes. But he’s a long way from being a reliable shooter. Stan Robinson would’ve been considered a better shooter than Al, with either hand. I hope he can really improve in the summer.

  • TomJameson

    Following Collins recovery, the initial reports were that he would be ready, but not quite 100% at the start of the season. That’s why I initially thought he would be eased back into it and take his starting position by mid-preseason. He hadn’t been able to do quite everything if the offseason, but he evidently is now, so I’ll insert him into my starting lineup now.

    I’ll just have to disagree with you about AD. His rankings and accolades have been going up everywhere but in these forums. As it is now, his shooting is much better than Stan’s, that’s not a good, or fair, comparison IMO.

    I’m not saying AD will be the next coming, I’m saying he’s being very underestimated. Following are some stats for his Junior year, but he’s been continuously getting better.

    “… Averaged 14.8 points, 5.1 rebounds and 2.8 assists per game while shooting 34.0 percent from three-point range, helping Berkmar to a 20-9 overall record as a junior … Averaged 15.4 points, 5.6 rebounds and 3.2 assists per game through the four legs of the Nike’s EYBL circuit for Southern Stampede… “

  • Neil Dixon

    I agree. He isn’t as talented as OG but he is VERY athletic and in many ways reminds me of Calbert Cheaney. He is more athletic than Calbert, though not as good a shooter at this point but strength wise and in terms of intelligence, it will be hard to keep him out. We may see some sets where IU has a three forward, one guard and one center sort of line-up. He won’t be here long. I see him as two year or possibly three player. He is that good.