Summer League roundup: Ferrell, Williams make debuts

  • 07/11/2016 10:27 am in

The Samsung NBA Summer League tipped off Friday in Las Vegas and four former Indiana players are participating: Yogi Ferrell, Troy Williams, Noah Vonleh and Verdell Jones.

Here’s a look at how each player performed over the weekend:

· Yogi Ferrell, Brooklyn Nets: Ferrell logged 19 minutes off the bench for the Nets in his professional debut and scored seven points on 3-of-11 shooting in a 79-73 win over Cleveland. He also added four rebounds and four assists.

Newsday had a feature recently on Ferrell and his quest to make the NBA the hard way:

A quick point guard, Ferrell said he rejected draft-and-stash offers — in which draftees are expected to play their first season abroad — and did not get picked on June 23. Instead, he signed a summer-league contract with the Nets, who will play their first game Saturday in Las Vegas.

“Not hearing my name, kind of sad,” he said of draft night. “A couple of teams wanted to draft and stash me, but I didn’t want to do that. I felt like I had a better opportunity choosing my team. Looking at Brooklyn, they liked how I worked out for them in the pre-draft workouts.”

Up next: Today vs. Atlanta at 4:30 p.m. ET on NBA TV

· Troy Williams, Phoenix Suns: The former IU wing has logged just 19 minutes in two games and is averaging 3.5 points and two rebounds. Phoenix is 2-0. Williams is 3-of-7 from the field.

In a recent story, The Arizona Republic confirmed that Williams knew his junior season would be his last in college once his sophomore year ended:

Once Indiana’s season ended and Troy Williams declared his intention to enter the draft early, his status was debated and questioned until the date to withdraw.

For Williams, there was no debate or question. He said he knew his junior season would be his last at Indiana once his sophomore season ended. No predraft conjecture was going to change that, and Williams has no regrets after going undrafted last month.

Up next: Tuesday vs. Boston at 6:30 p.m. ET on NBA TV

· Noah Vonleh, Portland Trail Blazers: As he enters his third NBA season, it’s hard to believe that Vonleh is still just 20 years old. He’s averaging a double-double through two summer league contests (14 points, 11.5 rebounds per game). He’s shooting 11-of-22 from the field, but also has eight turnovers.

Portland is 0-2, with losses to San Antonio and Phoenix.

Up next: Tuesday vs. Utah at 4:30 p.m. ET on NBA TV

· Verdell Jones, D-League Select: Jones is averaging 12 minutes per game for the D-League Select team, a collection of top talent from the NBA Development League. He’s averaging seven points, two assists and 1.5 rebounds per game and is 4-of-5 from the field and 5-of-6 from the free throw line.

Jones is expected to draw heavy interest from European teams after a strong season with the Santa Cruz Warriors in which he averaged 16.1 points, 3.8 assists and 3.2 rebounds per game.

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  • ForeverIU

    RIGHT!

  • Outoftheloop

    Wrong! As I stated in my post above, Troy lacks 2 courses plus an internship to earn his degree. I hope that he does finish his requirements sooner rather than later, but he now has a very time and energy demanding career!

  • ForeverIU

    Well if you want to stick to “basketball stuff”, I might ask you then how you decided that you are qualified to so easily dismiss a “life decision” (that’s not just about basketball) as a “reckless” decision. Are you trying to be a life coach, or do you want to limit your discussion to basketball?

  • Outoftheloop

    You don’t have to make it “Big Time” in the NBA to reach financial success! If you can hold a roster spot for 2 years the AVERAGE salary is $9 million/year now!

  • IdahoHoosier

    How are any of us qualified to comment on anything? We are all fans, Hoosiers, or have some IU ties and we are on a forum meant for expressing opinions about IU basketball related things. I made a comparison between how I perceive his basketball skills (reckless) and his not seeming to consider feedback from others (which I would consider reckless). Why is it important to you to dissect and criticize my opinion that has zero to do with you? Just say you don’t agree or explain an actual reason you don’t agree. Feel free to express your opinions and I’ll have mine, but come on! If you have nothing to actually add to the original line of thinking then move on. Pathetic.

  • HuntinHoosier86

    Who do you think will be the most valuable incoming player for us this season?

  • HardRockHoosier

    I don’t know about you, but I could handle a year or so of that…lol.. I just might have to trim back my standard of living just a bit, but I’d be more than happy to try… I guess the difficult part is landing that roster spot…

  • HuntinHoosier86

    See…..this is what it’s all about! Can’t we all just feel the love that the ITH comment section is exuding right now??!! 🙂 Obviously, all of that was said in purple font, but seriously, I look forward to seeing either Oleman or ForeverIU hashing stuff out with unsuspecting commenters. Makes my day here at work go faster to read the ridiculous banter.

  • ForeverIU

    You expressed your opinion, and I expressed mine. You didn’t explain the reasoning behind your opinion except to use a silly on-court analogy. So how am I supposed to dissect your analogy. What is there to dissect?

  • TomJameson

    I agree with that completely I personally would have liked to see him come back. I think he could have made a much better decision considering the feedback he was getting. Going against the bulk of advice and going pro, he had to have a great reason in his mind.

    Maybe he just wanted to get on with the next chapter of his life, maybe he wasn’t looking forward to the internship, I have no real idea why he did what he did, but I’m not losing any sleep over it. I sincerely doubt that he ever completes his degree though, only because life happens and it’s tough to go back.

  • ForeverIU

    Ha ha, well I’m glad I help you get through the day. But please don’t sully Ole Man’s reputation by comparing him to me. LOL.

  • HuntinHoosier86

    Ha! You two are in the same category as far as I’m concerned. You all hide in the shadows until someone makes an ambiguous comment (usually about something that doesn’t even really matter) and then one of you usually POUNCES! When you both join forces against a common foe on the forum, WATCH OUT! Those are the good days sitting here at my desk….. LOL

  • ForeverIU

    The one we can best rely on to put in minutes at PG. I have no idea who that is.

  • HuntinHoosier86

    Agreed. I feel like we’re set up pretty good at the other positions. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t feel like we’re gonna be scrambling to find a PG, but I hope whoever the staff goes with can handle it (the ball and the all the other pressure that goes with being a floor general).

  • ForeverIU

    I think I should change my name, for Ole Man’s sake. LOL.

  • HuntinHoosier86

    Do you think he meant “Ole” as in what a Spanish bullfighter says and just couldn’t figure out how to do the accent mark? I’ve always wondered that…..

  • ForeverIU

    Those hunting trips and shooting too many animals are dulling your sense of humor, LOL. But that would be a very good question for Ole Man, if you dare to ask.

  • IUJeff

    I will agree that he runs, jumps, dunks well. He should have stayed and gotten his degree. That is all.

  • HuntinHoosier86

    What makes you say that?

    I’ll have to ask him the next time we chat.

  • E Foy McNaughton

    Forever – you guys are cracking me up!

    I would say this though, sometimes decision making on the court can mimic decision making off the court.

    I’m not sure if I would say “reckless” – but if TW really decided after his sophomore year, he at minimum made a decision prior to really considering his situation.

    If my son was basically 6-9 hours away from graduation; and had a full scholarship; and had NO real opportunity to get a high paying job for the place he wanted to work (NBA); I would be very disappointed in the decision to drop out of school.

  • millzy32

    I wish the best for Troy but he doesn’t really seem like the Brightest Bulb out there. Hopefully he gets whatever it is he thinks he needs out of leaving early and chasing a really tough road to stardom.

  • John D Murphy

    Troy’s athleticism did not show very well in the combine where almost everyone his size out showed him.

  • John D Murphy

    That’s funny.

  • John D Murphy

    They know YF can shoot. The shots he gets, how he moves the team, when/how he has turnovers, etc… will determine if he gets an invite to a fall camp. He

  • HardRockHoosier

    I don’t think in his case, he’s going to get an invite to Fall camp based upon, ‘they know he can shoot’.. They’ll invite him based upon what you mentioned, but he’s going to have to hit a lot better percentage of his shots as well. If they ‘knew’ all of this about him, he’d have gotten drafted in the first place.

  • HardRockHoosier

    ey as I’ve indicated many times before, I really love the guy. BUT, he’s really going to have to perform well, I mean really well, to make a roster pot for himself.. Otherwise, he’ll end up in Europe somewhere. I have no doubt he can play somewhere.. but to make it in the NBA, he’ll have to do great.. not just average shooting and playing point, etc. There are too many other options for the Nets ay PG.

  • TomJameson

    Yeah, I know. I’m a little surprised at that, but I think it was him trying just too hard … like he always does.

    Only time will tell, but he most definitely has a lot of work ahead of him.

  • John D Murphy

    18 minutes and 4 TO for YF in Game 2. DNP in game 3.

  • John D Murphy

    What I’m saying is I don’t think the shooting is what will make or break getting an invite to a fall camp. Especially the in game shooting — they do watch these guys in practice. I think the choice of who he goes to camp with (if he has multiple offers) may be the biggest decision of his career. The landscape has changed since he signed to play summer ball with the Nets.

  • HardRockHoosier

    The choice of who he went to summer camp with has to be right up there with the biggest decision of his career.. His bst shot at being invited back to a fall camp does in fact lie with the Nets.. that’s just the way it works. It is highly unlikely that some team other than the Nets would invite him to their fall camp.. But you can believe what you want to believe, I believe you can be the best practice player in the D League’s summer camp or Fall camp for that matter.. But if you don’t show at game time, you ain’t going to make a roster.. Believe me, there’s too many guys chasing too few roster spots.. You have to do it in the game. No body is looking for a good practice player. JMO but that is the way it works in the NBA.

  • ManovSteelo

    Actually, they would be looking for a good practice player, or someone to develop with their new D-League Nets affiliate in Long Island. Yogi’s contract is partially guaranteed, and given the new depth chart at PG, he’s currently fourth. Has not started in SL to-date, so his prospects are dwindling. He has seemed to always have had a high opinion of himself regarding his NBA prospects, but reality is setting in: he’s a borderline 3d PG on anyone’s roster and will need seasoning in the D-League or overseas before he’s ready to compete at the NBA level. Too bad: in retrospect, should have taken a “draft and stash” offer, insisted on a one-year guarantee PLUS a guaranteed spot on next year’s SL roster, with a real chance to compete for PT. Then go to the D-League on a second-round deal (more money than any normal D-Leaguer would get), and play his @ss off, knowing he’s getting a shot at the league via summer league next year. That’s his agent’s fault, not his, but now he has to do it the (very) hard way. A shame, ’cause BRN really stinks, and will be awful next season, too. But he should have beaten out Whitehead for the starting spot in SL. And he didn’t. Oh, well.

  • Outoftheloop

    I watched the game on TV. One TO was a teammate loosing the ball which Yogi grabbed over the 10 second line. Another was Yogi running the baseline and going out of bounds as he was shoved with no foul. He played well.

  • Outoftheloop

    You can’t “beat out” a team’s first round draft pick. It makes the executives look bad. Yogi will be invited to fall camp. He will have to be a difference maker there!

  • Outoftheloop

    He looked much better in the next game v Miami.

  • ManovSteelo

    In the short-term, sure you can. But Whitehead is a second-rounder, not a first-. No idea how practices went before the opener, but I’m pretty sure Yogi didn’t dominate Whitehead, or show a superior command of the offense. As it stands now, Yogi’s game screams ‘backup’, anyway. Whitehead had 7 TO’s in his debut, shot poorly, and has continued to do so in all 3 games. But he’s a Brooklyn guy and is going to get a strong look from Management before they would ever part ways (rightly or wrongly). I see Yogi doing much of what he did at IU, which wasn’t enough to get drafted legitimately; he doesn’t penetrate or get to the rim well at all, settling instead for long 2’s. That’s not gonna help you make a squad when you’re 4th-String.

    And the fall invite is just perfunctory; no team carries 4 PGs, to my knowledge. Whitehead can backup both spots, but LeVert can also play point in a pinch. So no need for Yogi unless there are injuries to 2 or more guards. I feel badly for him, ’cause he definitely has All-Star talent from a physical standpoint, but his game is not at the NBA level right now — even for the sorry-@ss Nets. He’s just not ready-to-go right now, so either he does the D-League thing, or goes overseas. But Good Luck to him, regardless.

  • John D Murphy

    Thanks for the insite.

  • John D Murphy

    I don’t think that is true. If a team had an interest in him, but he chose to go to summer camp with the nets – the other team with the interest may still like him better than their other end of bench candidates that they took to summer league.

  • HardRockHoosier

    I didn’t say that he couldn’t get signed by someone else.. But truth is, I almost never happens.. There has to be at least some expressed interest in the team in both directions, that you went to summer camp with.. But if it doesn’t happen with them, It has very little if any chance of happening with someone else. The Nets are willing to let him play in their summer league team.. because there is some interest there.. If there would have been interest elsewhere, Yogi likely would’ve gone elsewhere. If he doesn’t make with the Nets, I’m saying there is probably less than 1% chance that another team would sign him.. That’s just the way it works,,

  • Outoftheloop

    What # was Whitehead? Was he the Nets first choice?

  • ManovSteelo

    Whitehead: #42 (Jazz); traded to Brooklyn for #55 the (Marcus Paige) plus cash.

    Nets’ 1st-Rounder: Caris LeVert #20

  • Hoosierkamp

    Even playing over seas the housing is often covered and they make a nice salary. I am sure VJ3 is doing just fine

  • oldiugymnast

    I see the Warriors games in person – you are mistaken.

  • HardRockHoosier

    I might be, it’s just my opinion. Wow, you must have a whole lot more time to waste than I have. I tried watching Yogi last night.. The Nets were on playing someone, shoot I don’t even remember who.. What a ‘BORE’. I couldn’t stay interested even with the ‘draw’ of Yogi getting in every once in a while.. I think I’d just about as soon watch ‘paint dry’.. lol.. Seriously, it was a very boring game. Just kind of solidified my feelings about the entirety of the NBA basketball.. Man, there must have been all of a thousand fans in the stands.. and that may be stretching it.. What a boring game. BTW, Yogi wasn’t really setting the world on fire in that game.. or at least the parts I saw between falling asleep. I hope he starts doing better.. I would like to see him make it, but to me it’s doubtful.

  • HardRockHoosier

    Again, I didn’t say it couldn’t happen.. I’m just saying it is highly unlikely. Did you watch Yogi’s game on TV last night? I watched almost the entire last quarter.. between periods of falling asleep.. What a bore.. Yogi played some, but he didn’t really set himself apart from the rest in the part I watched anyway. I find that D League stuff so boring.. There is no excitement at all. Just a bunch of guys that are obviously more focused on having themselves look good than actually doing something t won the game.. It’s almost as bad, maybe not quite as bad as AAU ball.. I just can’t watch it. It’s way too boring for me. In all fairness, it is probably because I have zero interest in it.

  • John D Murphy

    I find almost identical to AAU ball but with greater skill. I don’t watch D Leauge but enjoy a little summer ball. I don’t really watch the game but follow 2-3 players I’m interested in. I enjoy seeing guys who’ve been oversees (e.g. Aaron Craft) vs undrafted (YF) vs drafted rookies vs 2nd/3rd year guys. Trey Lyles (I live in SLC and root for the Jazz) was unstoppable a few nights ago.