Draft Watch: Will Ferrell and Williams get picked?

  • 06/23/2016 10:06 am in

The wait is over for Yogi Ferrell and Troy Williams. The NBA draft begins tonight at 7 p.m. ET at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn and both players are being discussed as potential second round picks.

In our final “draft watch” this year, we take a look at the latest on both players:

Draft Rankings – Williams

DraftExpress Top 100: No. 73 (up three spots since last update)
ESPN Top 100 (Ford): No. 75 (down five spots since last update)
NBADraft.net: No. 55 (down five spots since last update)
CBS Sports (Vecenie): No. 79 (up one spot since last update)

Williams has been absent in most mock drafts and the feedback from an anonymous NBA voice earlier this week in Seth Davis’ column wasn’t encouraging:

“I don’t see it. Plays too fast, doesn’t know who he is as a player. Not a lot of substance there. Awful decision to come out. Very possible he goes undrafted. Good athlete, but a poor shooter and a very low basketball IQ. He’s just out of his mind, he’s so wild. He can do highlight-reel stuff, but for every good play he makes, the next three are gonna be ugly. He’s not a great shooter, but he thinks he is. He’ll have an opportunity to play because of his athleticism and energy, but I don’t think he sticks very long.”

Jay Bilas of ESPN was more bullish on Williams in comments on a conference call on Tuesday afternoon:

“I think Troy Williams is probably going to be at or around the end of the second round. I do think he’s a draftable player because of his athleticism, his ability to run the floor and his ability to finish plays in transition. And I think he can be a good defender because he kind of fits the suit there. He’s got size, he’s not crazy long, but he’s a high-flyer. He’s explosive, he plays with a lot of energy. More of a driver than anything, but really did a good job in transition. Can hit some perimeter shots, but not quite an NBA range 3-point shooter. I think he should be a better defender with his athleticism, but he’s done a good job. I think his value is in the fact that he brings energy, athleticism and he can finish plays. He’s just got to play with a little more efficiency. Not turn the ball over, take better shots, things like that.”

Williams also generated some positive buzz following a workout in Dallas:

Draft Rankings – Ferrell

DraftExpress Top 100: No. 63 (unchanged since last update)
ESPN Top 100 (Ford): No. 76 (up three spots since last update)
NBADraft.net: No. 80 (down seven spots since last update)
CBS Sports (Vecenie): No. 58 (down one spot since last update)

Ferrell’s big board rankings are all over the place as DraftExpress and CBS both have him in the mix for late second round and ESPN and NBADraft.net have him much lower on their boards. The anonymous scout interviewed by Seth Davis was more positive on Ferrell than he was on Williams:

“I like that he got better, especially as a defender. He thinks he belongs. He’s a good shooter, but he’s tiny, and he’s not a dynamic athlete. Good player but not at our level.”

Jay Bilas on Tuesday said he doesn’t have Yogi getting picked because of his size:

“Yogi is a smaller guard. He did a very good job, he kept getting better and better, he can shoot it, good leader. Very good job at creating for himself and for others out of pick-and-roll situations. Gets his shot off quickly. He can shoot it off the catch, shoot it off the dribble. Pretty good in isolation. He’s just not got a lot of size. He’s not a superior athlete and he doesn’t have a lot of size. I do not believe he’s going to get drafted. He wasn’t invited to the (draft) combine. I thought he should have been, but he wasn’t and that’s a pretty good indicator that he’s not high enough up on the draft radar. But like I’ve said about other players, he might be better off not getting drafted. Then he can pick where he goes and have a better opportunity to make a team.”

Sports Illustrated, however, has Ferrell as one of its five draft sleepers:

Considered right on the cusp of some team’s draft boards, Yogi Ferrell will almost certainly be in an NBA training camp next season. He can run a team extremely well at the point guard position. He’s a pit bull on-ball defender. Ferrell has shown a solid shooting stroke as well—he was the only point guard in the NCAA this year to average 17 points and 5.5 assists per game while shooting more than 40% from three-point land. At 6′ 0″, there are warranted defensive concerns about Ferrell around the league. As the playoffs just proved, it’s easy to target smaller perimeter defenders in pick-and-rolls. He’s also already 23 after graduating from Indiana, but Ferrell has been a proven winner and has outperformed many of the higher-ranked point guards on the workout circuit. He’ll either be drafted or his agent’s phone will be buzzing afterward from teams trying to sign him to a small, guaranteed contract to get him on their summer league roster and into camp. Don’t be surprised if he ends up a team’s third point guard on opening night a la T.J. McConnell and Matthew Dellavedova.

Meanwhile, Ferrell said on Wednesday night that he’s hearing he’ll be picked early to mid second round:

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  • SilverAtlanta

    I wish them both the best, if it were between the two, Yogi has shown more improvement over time and he’s be my choice. Troy can be so erratic that his athleticism can’t overcome his faults at times.

  • Fivelefts

    With ALL the DRAMA circulating, involving this draft and the speculation.. I will probably celebrate with cocktail, if both of them gets drafted!

  • HuntinHoosier86

    Briefly glanced and the headline of the article and expected to see something about Will Ferrell trying to play bball against Troy in some sort of publicity stunt for the draft, LOL!

  • HuntinHoosier86

    Briefly glanced at the headline of the article and expected to see something about Will Ferrell trying to play bball against Troy in some sort of publicity stunt for the draft, LOL!

  • Love is in the air

    Me too. I thought we may be getting an article about the Flint Tropics.

  • NC Hoosier

    Gonna be a sad night around here for my 8 year old son if Yogi isn’t drafted. He keeps telling me draft experts don’t know anything and that Yogi was the best PG in the country. Son might be in for a let-down tonight.

  • Ole Man

    IF Yogi doesn’t get drafted because of his size, worries about his D, etal AND Ulis gets drafted, then it’s just one more reason NOT to watch the NBA (No Basketball Allowed).

  • onehoosier

    Good Luck Yogi and Troy! Thanks for all the great memories at Indiana. We are rooting for you!

  • I am Baby Cakes

    It just shows even more how much potential matters.

  • Bill Graham

    I know there’s been a ton of Yogi bashing lately. But I for one hope he gets drafted (and above Ulis)…does anyone else notice this articles getting a bit more…trollish lately?

  • IU Hoosiers # 34, 1979-83

    I’ve already started with my cocktails.

  • IU Hoosiers # 34, 1979-83

    I think Ben Simmons will have a disappointing NBA career. Not physical or athletic enough. Kris Dunn will be great. Chicago Bulls were supposedly going to make a trade to get Dunn.

  • IU Hoosiers # 34, 1979-83

    Bill, wouldn’t it be fantastic if Yogi is drafted by the Cavs!!!!

  • sarge

    I have a hunch he might be wanted by the Celtics.

  • IU Hoosiers # 34, 1979-83

    Well, I am wrong about Yogi being the 4th guard taken in the draft. Creamandcrimson was dead on about the draft.

  • thrawnjan


  • NBA thinking on Yogi was really stupid and contradictory. He was the best PG out there, better than Yulis and Felder, and taller than both. And arguably better than Paige, who is only an inch or two taller. The fact that he was a senior was also somehow used against him, which is beyond moronic. The last group of players taken in front of Yogi was full of players inferior to Yogi, so it also contradicts that teams take players based on overall talent levels available. I understand why Troy wasn’t drafted, but what bone-headed decisions not to take Yogi. Just really dumb, and all the reasons given are self-contradictory. There was just a dumb prejudice against him, for no good reasons. He’ll make a roster somewhere and will outplay most of those who were drafted this year. Not all players must be 6-10 with an 8-foot wingspan, and be 19 years old. The groupthink on display last night by NBA teams was really quite amazing. I feel bad for Yogi, who is a much better player than a lot of those “kids” taken in the second round. It made no sense. If it’s a height issue, then explain that for the above mentioned PG’s. If it’s age, then explain that for other seniors taken (as if that’s actually a good and rational reason). As for overall quality of the player…just please.

  • HardRockHoosier

    Yes, it really is too bad. I feel badly for Yogi. He was a great player for IU for four years. I really do not understand the bias against ‘Seniors’ in the NBA. For some reason a player really is cutting his own throat staying in college for four years. Interesting that Villanova had no one taken. A National Championship team with no one good enough for the NBA.
    Oh well as ‘Ole Man’ so aptly put it, there’s really no reason to watch the NBA. Really does stand for ‘No Basketball Allowed’.. it seems. What a fiasco that draft was. You really wonder where some of these Coaches and GM’s have their heads.

  • CreamandCrimson

    I don’t like to be right about this one (and I really deserve no credit, I was only relaying what I read or heard) but I knew what I was reading and hearing on podcasts or on radio interviews and I knew Yogi’s prospects were being vastly overrated by many on here. I don’t understand why people like Paige or Cousins or Wallace went ahead of Yogi but he’ll have his chance in the Summer League…best of luck Yogi! I didn’t watch any of the proceedings last night but I am happy that Yogi will at least get to choose his destination and pick a team that, presumably, has a good situation where he will receive a shot to make the squad. I guess the same could be said for Troy.

    I’m also very happy for Victor as it seems he has been traded into a very strong situation and organization. He played well in big spots for us and he’ll have plenty of chance to shine in OKC.

  • puddingpudding

    Wish them both well, but no one should be shocked that neither was drafted.

  • sarge

    Not to mention Ben Simmons being hyped all year as the #1 and his team didn’t even make the tourney. He has some great physical tools but, IMO he isn’t a very good player. I am in agreement with you all, the NBA is a terrible brand of basketball and the organizations themselves are laughable. Unfortunately, I can see my beloved college game trending in the same direction. I guess living in Indiana you always have a chance to watch great basketball at the high school level and down.

  • sarge

    Your son is right though, draft experts don’t know anything. If they did, they would be making moves instead of just talking about it.

  • sarge

    It is sad that he played in a tougher conference, and went further in the tourney by outplaying Ulis and he still didn’t get any love. I am with baby cakes, it has to be potential based.

  • HardRockHoosier

    I really think Ben Simmons is going to be a bust. I just think he is over hyped, and he couldn’t even make his college team any better.. He did nothing last year.. How is he going to make Philly better? They already have a couple of ‘bigs’ that haven’t turned things around for them.. Ben won’t either. And where is the Celtics plan? They had like 6 picks.. and the best they could do with their number 3 is Jaylen Brown??.. Wow what were they thinking? As all of the prognosticators are saying.. They already had a 48 win season last year, they needed a ‘Star’ a real difference maker, and that isn’t Brown. I was kind of glad to see LeBron win a championship for Cleveland this year, but I didn’t watch any of it… and other than that, I really wouldn’t waste my time watching the NBA.

  • sarge

    I agree. If Noel and Okafor, who were major catalysts for their college teams winning, can’t help then how will Simmons? Brown to the Celtics at #3 is a head scratcher too. I really thought that the Suns and the Celtics could do great things with all of the picks they had and it seems like they were too conservative. I will miss 99.9% of NBA games next season though, so it really doesn’t matter I guess.

  • Koko

    The only NBA game I watched this year was the final game of the championship series and even then I switched channels now and then. It should be called the NBAMM….NBA Money Machine.

  • Koko

    I think Yogi will work his way up into a member of the Nets. TW?….shoulda stayed another year. I liken his decision to forego his senior year to his wayward decisions on the court that earned him the “Bad Troy” moniker. Hopefully he lucks out and gets to the summer league or D league. If not then I hope he makes the big bucks overseas.

  • IU Hoosiers # 34, 1979-83

    I was surprised to see the player from Oakland go before Yogi. Take care Cream.

  • Ole Man

    I’d say that Yogi has far more potential than Ulis.

  • HardRockHoosier

    Agree 100%… Like I said, I really only watched the replay of the last four or five minutes of Game Seven.. Those who knock college ball because the players don’t shoot it well.. Have you ever seen so many misses??? Until Kyrie finally dropped in that three, everyone missed everything ij that last four minutes.. E

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  • I am Baby Cakes

    I’m sure you would.