Video: Grant Gelon talks Indiana All-Stars experience, future at IU

  • 06/12/2016 6:04 pm in

LOUISVILLE, Ky. – Class of 2016 Crown Point wing Grant Gelon was a member of this year’s Indiana All-Stars team that completed a sweep of the Kentucky All-Stars with a 99-96 win on Sunday at Bellarmine University.

After the win, Inside the Hall spoke with Gelon about the experience playing on the Indiana All-Stars and what is coming next as he reports to Bloomington on Monday:

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  • Rantool

    All reports are that Grant is a spot on shooter! I like what I see from him as far as his eagerness to work on his game and get stronger! He seems to fit the mold of a kid that is kind of flying in under the radar, with a very high basketball I.Q. and a good work ethic! Kids like that through the years seem to grow into players under Coach Crean? Can Grant be another diamond in the rough that turns out to be a player? Time will tell.

  • VanPastorMan

    I hope so too. It really bothers me how some people write a kid off because of his recruitment number. I’ll take a kid with a skill set and a heart to get better.

  • I am Baby Cakes

    It is more than his recruitment number. Which is only as high as it is because he signed with Indiana.

  • TomJameson

    Grant is a good shooter, and is streaky like most shooters. Just glad that he seems determined to get a bunch of reps up to improve his shot, and consistency. I would imagine the coaching staff will “fine tune” his shot, and those reps will help a lot with that.

    Glad he mentioned working on defense last year, and knows it’s a focus going forward.
    Glad he mentioned working on building his body & strength. Need a B1G body!
    Glad he doesn’t seem to believe he deserves anything other than a chance.
    I think with a good work ethic, and being “coachable”, I think he’ll work himself up the playing depth chart in a year-or-two. By his Junior year, he will be on the floor contributing. Probably not starting, but being depended on for a certain number of minutes.

  • Ole Man

    And in the meantime, those two years, could IU have used that scholly on someone who could already be contributing?

  • WhatsUpKnight2.0

    in a perfect world, sure. we’d have a new team full of blue chippers every year. but CTC doesn’t recruit that way. though i think he’s improved since the sham that was the ‘movement’ (excluding YF, of course), he may never be able to compete with the pUKe’s and jerKS’s of the world. so he’s got to be more creative. i think there’s good value in signing undervalued 4-year guys, for multiple reasons. especially with a team as deep as this one.

  • Outoftheloop

    The answer is “yes and no”! Alex will have the numbers on how many offers were made to players in this class. Probably 20-25. We’re one or more of those players “better” right now than Grant? Probably. So yes. Did any of them accept the IU offer and move to Bloomington? No. Will Noah Vonleah or Grant Gelon be better for Indiana Basketball W’s during their careers? Only the future can answer that question. My guess is Grant!

  • TomJameson

    Of course that can’t be answered by a simple yes or no, you know that as well as anyone.

    Freshmen rarely come in ready to contribute unless they are the very top in their position, elite 5-star recruits who would only be here a year, or two at the most, anyway. There is the step up to CBB from HS, plus the physical conditioning isn’t usually there right away either. So actually, yes somebody could come in and contribute, but only a very few.

    Then there are the good, fundamentally sound, team players that will be the backbone of the team. Those 4-year players that work hard and develop every year they are on the team. The ones that pass down the traditions, the work ethics, and the high character needs of the program.

    The team needs a mix of those players, and I think CTC is doing a damn good job of getting the players he needs for his system. Of course he’s not perfect, and some players slip through and muck up the system (the movement) … but overall CTC does well.

    I’m not going to throw GG under the bus just because he’s not the highest ranked player that “could have” been recruited.

  • Kyl470

    I’m with you in that unless you are UK or Duke you are not getting 5 star prospects at every position. Many people (myself included) thought taking on Nick Z as a transfer was a waste. He proved me and everyone else wrong and showed that he could be a solid contributor. I think that is what GG can be in time. Will he be a star? Probably not, but I do see him developing into a dependable role player.

  • Kyl470

    I think CTC would have preferred Rawle Alkins, Bruce Brown, and several other higher rated guys, but ultimately they decided to go elsewhere. I wish IU just kept on bringing in 5 star after 5 star player, but the reality is that we aren’t there yet.

  • Kyl470

    Exactly. I think CTC would love to sign 5 McDonald’s All Americans every year, but right now that just isn’t realistic.

  • TomJameson

    I don’t want to “poke the bear”, but Baby Cakes, you really sound like you have an agenda against Gelon. Did he offend you somehow? In this, and other threads, you go out of your way to beat up on him.

    Comments about his ranking is pretty lame because anybody can see that he was a 3 star before he signed with IU.

  • Ole Man

    The “model” you’re using just isn’t that applicable to high level, elite programs anymore. It’s rare and it’s an old model.
    Sorry, James, those kids aren’t the “backbone” of the program.
    Bryant, as a Soph, brings just as much backbone, tradition, character, etal, as anyone.
    Also, many freshmen, JM and OG come to mind for IU, contribute their first year.
    IU should only be recruiting freshmen who can contribute the first year; not guys who might give a few backup minutes by their 3rd or 4th year.

  • Ole Man

    You don’t know any of that loop.
    Maybe CTC stopped looking after he offered GG.

  • Ole Man

    Team isn’t deep if you have scholarship players who don’t get minutes over walk-ons.
    A deep team is one where any guy can come off the bench and give you productive minutes.
    That can’t be said.

  • Ole Man

    Actually, he was and is rated a two star by most of the ranking groups. He only became a 3 star on 247 after IU signed him.

  • Bill Graham

    Tom I very rarely antagonize people on here…but in this case by all means poke the bear.

  • Bill Graham

    Agreed, but that guy coming off of the bench doesn’t have to be a 4 or 5 star recruit. If Grant can give us good bench minutes then I’m in favor, if he fails to be productive in 2-3 years then I’ll say he’s a waste of a scholly…but until then I’m routing for the kid and giving him a chance.

  • Bill Graham

    Alex, it might be a good idea to write an article analyzing the GG scholly offer. It would provide stats and insight into a cloudy situation. It would also provide a comment section for a more organized debate rather than this cross-article nonsense. Osterman’s quotes, his high school stats, and Indiana elite stats could give our fanbase the education they need on this kid. That way they could have a more informed opinion. Just a thought.

  • ForeverIU

    I think CTC mostly wanted the token Indiana kid, because all the others turned us down (Guy and Brunk). I think I prefer him to Eron Gordon (potential entitlement issues) or Vijay Blackmon (other potential “basketball royalty” issues).

  • Bill Graham

    Alex, it might be a good idea to write an article analyzing the GG scholly offer. It would provide stats and insight into a cloudy situation. It would also provide a comment section for a more organized debate rather than this cross-article nonsense. Osterman’s quotes, Crean’s quotes, his high school stats, and Indiana elite stats could give our fanbase the education they need on this kid. That way they could make a more informed opinion. Just a thought.

  • Stew

    I could care a less about ranking and all that. The kid can flat out shoot it, but the question for me is can he defend in the Big10? Time will tell!

  • TomJameson

    Some good points there Tony. But I don’t see how 1-2 year players can become the backbone of any team, it takes continuity to develop that, else in general, you just have a soulless UK.
    I also don’t believe the model of a mix of players is old and un-applicable to elite CBB programs. Only a few programs recruit like you seem to be advocating.

    I do see the validity of recruiting JM and OG type players. Nobody can really argue that, but they wouldn’t have been contributing (and developing) as much as they did if IU didn’t have all those injuries. But still, yeah I can certainly agree with that part of your argument. Especially since we’ll have them for 2-4 years (OG-JM respectfully).

    I just don’t see why you are so adamant about GG, and the role CTC envisions for him, when nobody really knows how he will play at this level. I just think any team would love to have a NZ type of guy to put on the floor for 5-10 minutes a game, especially one that can play defense.

    You’re not really doing this too much, but the comparisons to Tim Priller are ludicrous. Completely different work ethics and set of talents. Anybody comparing them just loses the argument automatically, no credibility and grasping straws for their POV.

    Also CTC recruiting a “token” Indiana player … what a crock. Some can’t come up with much more than just stirring the pot. At least I can get behind most of your points and just disagree with basically one.

  • TomJameson

    I think his rankings began to increase in the summer of his Junior year. He was 46% from three in his Junior year, and was shooting it well in the tourneys his team played in. That’s what was attracting all the attention, his range and shot percentage.

    Some services may still have him as a 2-star, but after a player commits it seems the opposite of what you said, the rankings don’t rise because they committed to any particular school, instead they seem to stall. “This guy committed, on to somebody else” … at least that’s the way I see it.

    After the first 20-25 players on the 5-star list, I don’t really put much weight in the rankings anyway. Lower ranked recruits tend to be ranked by “word-of-mouth” and not by any real scrutiny. Really, who has time to actually watch and follow 300 players??

  • Outoftheloop

    Totally wrong! I do know that there were many offers, I just don’t know the exact number. I also know that only 3 were accepted in the November signing period. What are you talking about: “you don’t know any of that”? Do you even know what you are referring to by “any of that”? Your statement borders on nonsense!

  • jimmygoiu

    DGreen is not criticized because he is a legit talent, B1G level. DG can score, shoot, pass, dribble, assist,defend, and is strong and athletic. DG is a well rounded player that will contribute at IU. Most IU fan don’t care if the player is from another state, as long as he can PLAY at IU’s level.
    GG is not criticized, but his talent and ability to contribute at IU is legitimately critiqued. GG can shoot 3 pointers if not guarded closely, and that is the only skillset that he possesses. Enough fans have seen him play, in person, to be concerned. CTC never saw him play in a high school game before offering and ACCEPTING GG to a scholarship to elite IU. I went to both All Star games and the 2 Jr/Sr all star games, and it just is not there. sorry

  • jimmygoiu

    Michael Lewis averaged 31.5 ppg and was the leading scorer in the state his senior year. Lewis was quick, passer, shooter, dribbler, tough as nails and just a well rounded bball player. I really don’t think there was a lot of criticism his way. Ereck Suhr was a walk-on, no concern there. I was fine with OG, and really did not read posts critical of that signing, but you may know more.

    Why not sign a player that can shoot, and do other things on the court? I do hope that GG ends up contributing as much as Roth did. Roth could fill it up when left open.

  • Bill Graham

    Its the niche contribution. Is GG James or Rob heck no! Not even close but If (extra emphasis on ‘if) he can fill it up then IU has filled a niche role.

  • Ole Man

    You still offer only opinion, which was my point.
    You simply don’t know.
    And as to Grant being better for IU basketball wins that Vonleah?
    How would you even make that comparison?
    Even so, the answer is no.

  • Bill Graham

    Nice response. Well thought out. Good points all around.