POTB 107: A look at IU’s resurgence since the Duke loss

  • 01/21/2016 7:35 am in

Podcast on the Brink is back for a new episode with host Jerod Morris of The Assembly Call. The show is currently available weekly. You can access a full archive of episodes here.

In this week’s edition of the show, Morris and Inside the Hall editor Alex Bozich are joined by Rick Bozich of WDRB for a discussion of a variety of topics.

Among them:

· The differences between the IU team that played at Duke and the one that is 6-0 in the Big Ten
· Yogi Ferrell’s spot among the great point guards to play at Indiana
· Why Ferrell is getting overlooked nationally
· Chaos in college basketball this season and the challenges it presents for an AP voter
· The impact Max Bielfeldt is making as a grad transfer
· How IU fans should feel about the current state of the team

And plenty more. As always, feel free to drop the show a note at jerod@assemblycall.com.

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  • Show-Me-State HOOSIER

    I feel great about our winning streak; however, tests like Iowa, Michigan, Pudue, and Maryland will be some great tests for this team. If we can beat these teams on home and away courts, I will be VERY hopeful towards a deep run in the tournament!

  • sarge

    I don’t expect to win every game down the stretch, but as others have mentioned as long as we compete with these teams I will be satisfied. I hope we can be playing our best when it matters most.

  • sarge

    Maybe we prove Rick wrong and show him that IU is the team to fear from the Big Ten by the time postseason play comes around! Thanks again for the podcast guys.

  • BL

    Add Northwestern to the list. Saturday’s game will be our toughest test to date in the BIG. They have experience and should match up very well against us. Really good guards, size in the middle (I believe Olah is back) and athletic wings (what a team if Vic Law wasn’t out for the season).

  • BL

    As mentioned often, if TW and RJ protect the ball like they have for the last couple games, we should be very competitive against all the top tier BIG teams. Saw Michigan and MSU games last evening. MSU will be a battle on the road but we should match up well with them. Michigan plays a lot like we do; up tempo, shoots a lot of threes. Winner will most likely be the team that shoots best from deep. TB should have a clear advantage inside.

  • BL

    Really liked the comments regarding TC (last five minutes or so).

  • Show-Me-State HOOSIER

    Agree completely! I hope the Hoosiers don’t forget/overlook them like I did!

  • Show-Me-State HOOSIER

    Sarge I agree. Good fundamental D…..and as long as we compete and don’t have any huge relapses in the turnover column! I have personally been critical of this teams effort on D (in the past)and coach as well! This team is turning into something special and I am happy for the entire program! Let’s keep up the hard work!

  • MK

    I think most importantly we are winning the games we are supposed to win. That way when we inevitability drop a couple. it isn’t going to hurt us too bad. In the past couple of seasons we would lose against a bottom dweller and those losses can kill your season. Let’s get this W on saturday

  • WhatsUpKnight2.0

    i liked RB’s take on the perception of CTC. admittedly i’m one of those fans going back and forth. sure he brought this team back from the ruins of the KS era, but maybe he should have it further along after 8 seasons. sure, he had the two sweet 16 appearances and held the #1 ranking for a good part of the latter season, but didn’t they underachieve? he’s had highly touted recruiting classes, but outside YF the movement fell flat on its face. sure he’s shown the ability to greatly improve raw talent, but maybe that’s because he’s unable to recruit more polished, college ready talent. shouldn’t a coach at a prestigious basketball school with buckets of recruiting $$ be able to attract more elite, top 10 players (especially from his own state)? comparatively speaking, his recruiting record isn’t even in the same ballpark as other blue chip schools.

    so i guess the question is are we satisfied with one mcd’s a season and pleasant surprises like NZ, OG, and MB. guys who, relatively speaking, are much better than expected (and to their credit, seem like upstanding young men), but maybe not good enough to get iu past the sweet 16. or should we expect top 10, or even top 5 recruiting classes annually. because you don’t see any schools hanging banners without em.

  • Drew

    It all depends on how far he leads us. So far that is 3 tourney appearances and 2 sweet sixteens. This year, he was starting 3 McDonalds All Americans and 2 more top 50 recruits in Troy and Rob. Since one of our All Americans went down, we’ve been playing better. Not sure if that is coincidental or not at this time. For me, it depends on where he takes us and how we’re playing at the end of the season. I agree with you in regards to recruiting and turnover. Too many transfers and dismissals to excuse his overall coaching performance. While I am happy with the streak we are on now, it only means something if this level of play can continue.

  • WhatsUpKnight2.0

    well said. and for the record, i have a lot of hope for this team. i still need to see how they play against the better teams, but my suspicion is they’ll at the very least be competitive. i do worry, however, how they’ll match up against PUke and MD. as i mentioned in a post yesterday, i worry about foul trouble.

  • BL

    Personally, I’m giving TC a pass for our substandard performance the last couple of years due to the unusual off the court issues and what I believe is the related transfer of a key recruit. Naturally, if such issues continue I tear up the pass. I definitely want to see us with top 5-10 recruiting classes and OG type players sprinkled in to boot. I think it’s possible and as I’ve posted before, I believe (like other coaches) recruiting results will most definitely dictate TC’s future at IU.

  • BL

    Funny how fans worry so much. Hell I haven’t yet worried about PU and MD because I’m worried about NU.

  • Young Hoosier

    We should expect Top 3 classes with the money he spends on recruiting. As of right now we dont have a Top 30 player according to 247. According to ESPN we don’t have a Top 45 player and Curtis Jones is ranked ahead of Davis. Zeller is his only Top 10 recruit. Cody is the best player he’s had at IU. 13-14 and 14-15 should have never happened. The off court issues aren’t an excuse. I’m still ok with firing him. He has too much to prove right now. So it is wait and see.

  • Was hoping Olah would not be back just yet. This will be a tough game. People get ready…the wildcats…are coming.

  • Haven’t listened to this yet, but looking forward to it over lunch or this evening. I listen to these regularly. They are a great way to get through the week, between games. Thanks as always.

  • “I think it’s important to not rely too heavily on player rankings per the recruiting boards (e.g. see TB).”

    You mean OG?

  • Young Hoosier

    We don’t need to rely on it. But we don’t need anymore April’s/Priller’s. If we’re using schollys then we need to be careful with them. Be much smarter.

  • Drew

    I am getting more optimistic. I was at a pretty low point after the Duke game. They way Yogi has been playing has me feeling more confident in our potential.

  • IULore

    Short of NCAA champs, BIG champs is the best you can do. I don’t consider that under achievement.

  • IULore

    I’ll take top 3 on the court over top 3 three on the rankings every day and twice on Sundays.

  • Young Hoosier

    We don’t get either anyways.

  • IULore

    I’d disagree. Sheehey and Dipo, TB and OG this year. Not many classes worked out better.

  • Young Hoosier

    That’s 2 classes. Crean has had what? 7? So that isn’t a great number. And the movement was easily his biggest failure ever. I think we have 2 players from the 13 class left and we had 6 commit in that class.

  • Lance76

    Very well stated. I am not sure how responsible CTC should be for recruiting the players that lead to “off court issues” I would not want to attempt to sort that issue out while recruiting. IMHO CTC has handled the the off court issues well as can be expected.

  • remy

    Vonleh was his highest rated recruit not Cody…

  • IUMIKE1

    Good comment with good AND legitimate questions.

  • BL

    No, TB. He was generally ranked from 25 to 40 nationally during his recruiting period. Personally, I think he’s easily top 20; maybe top 15. Hell, all the boards completely blew it when it comes to OG.

  • BL

    Agree. He took a hard stance knowing it would cost him games. Happy OG and JM have helped soften the blow.

  • HoosierStuckInKY

    I could seriously care less about how high our recruiting class ranks, the number burger boys or a given recruit’s ranking. IMO, the whole ranking/star system is just something designed so fans can talk smack around the water cooler. It’s another way for companies to separate fans from their dollars, which is why there are so many sites that do it. I know there’s correlation the number of stars and winning, but it’s not a proven science. Some 3 stars end up being better than AAs etc., etc., etc.. It’s much more important to find the right pieces of the puzzle that is the roster–drivers vs. shooters vs. defense vs. leaders. Regardless of stars, I want to watch high IQ players play tough basketball and win. And graduate. And keep their nose clean off the court.

  • BL

    Agree to a point. Regardless how they are ranked, it’s easy to peg some kids as obvious winners in college and we’ll need to successfully recruit such kids if we want to hang more banners (i.e. you don’t win banners without recruits like Buckner, May, Thomas and Alford).

  • WhatsUpKnight2.0

    yes, and no. b1g champs, especially that year when the conference was stacked, was a great accomplishment. but not getting to the final 4, or even the elite 8, as a #1 seed?

  • WhatsUpKnight2.0

    of course it’s not an exact science, but look at the success of the schools with the top 10 classes. look at the schools who’ve hung a banner in recent years. heck, in the past 30 years. it’s not wichita st, butler, wiscy, vcu, etc… (i.e. well coached teams that were ultimately outmatched by far more talented teams).

  • HoosierStuckInKY

    That’s exactly my point though. Recruit winners who happen to be highly ranked instead of highly ranked kids who happen to be winners.

  • HoosierStuckInKY

    No doubt. I guess my point to BL’s post above is I don’t consider a recruiting class a “success” or “failure” based on how the class ranks against other teams or how individuals of that recruiting class rank amongst their peers. I could care less about that part. Sure, if gives us something to chatter about during the offseason, but that’s the extent of it for me. Success is determined when they actually play (or is some cases don’t play) the games. “The Movement” recruiting class really changed the way I looked at that.

  • WhatsUpKnight2.0

    tell me about it! you think the ‘experts’ whiffed on ranking a few of those players? just a bit? haha! YF is the only exception. he may have been ranked too low.

  • that was kinda my point, that they’re often unreliable, slow to adapt, and often just flat wrong. mostly groupthink. more speculation for entertainment’s sake than anything else. I don’t pay that much attention to it, but do like the highlight reels somewhat.

  • what about tie for 2nd in conference, win the conference tournament for the first time, and make it to the Elite 8?

  • Young Hoosier

    Cody was. Vonleh was at one point but dropped at the last bit. Cody was 10th. Vonleh I think was 13th.

  • Freemason

    Who cares about where they were rated. Cody is A LOT better and help put IU back on the map. Vonleh was overrated.

  • Bill Graham

    The tournament will be interesting. This is a year where anyone can beat anyone. In my eyes good tournament play comes down to three things: great defense, a great player, and great in-game coaching adjustments. I’m extremely confident in one of those three, fairly confident in another, and not very confident in another.

  • notaniufan

    The difference between iu and the team that played duke is the team on the other side of the ball. Weak schedule for the hoosiers…they will start losing soon.