At the buzzer: Wake Forest 82, Indiana 78

  • 11/23/2015 7:28 pm in

A few quick thoughts on Indiana’s 82-78 loss to Wake Forest in the Maui Jim Maui Invitational:

How it happened: After taking a 72-63 lead with 7:34 to play, Indiana scored just six points the rest of the way as Wake Forest easily attacked the basket down the stretch (like it did for the entire first half). Freshman Bryant Crawford scored the game winner for the Demon Deacons with just 3.2 seconds to play as the Hoosiers failed to stop a routine screen and roll on the right side. Indiana then called two timeouts to set up a final play, but an errant pass by Collin Hartman was intercepted and the Hoosiers didn’t even get off a shot, which simply cannot happen.

Standout performer: Troy Williams gets the nod, but deserves an asterisk. Williams had a solid line – 16 points, five steals, four assists and three rebounds – but also had five turnovers.

Number(s) that needs work: Indiana was shaky on the defensive glass, particularly before halftime. Wake Forest rebounded 61.1 percent of its missed shots in the first half and 48.6 for the game for 17 second chance points. The Demon Deacons also came in shooting an effective field goal percentage of just 49.7 through three games and lit Indiana up for 55.1 percent. Simply stated, Indiana only played defense for about the first 12 minutes of the second half in this game.

Statistic that stands out: The Hoosiers did get to the line 22 times and made 16 of those attempts for a 10-point advantage over Wake Forest, which was a mild positive.

Bonus note: Yogi Ferrell didn’t make a 3-pointer, ending his NCAA leading streak of consecutive games with a 3-pointer made at 67.

Final stats:

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  • kaponya44

    Troy demanding the ball and hurling the 3 was bad ….after Troy – not getting it in the flow of the offense 2 seconds prior when he would likely have drained it – set him up to react that way…Selfishness all around down the stretch..

  • IUBizmark

    I would’t be *as* mad either, but that doesn’t mean I want a season of underachieving and then overachieving. We had that the past two years and it didn’t even out at the end of the season to result in championships or really much success at all. Give me a coach who takes care of business and occasionally over-achieves. What we saw tonight is some Illinois level basketball, not IU.

  • kaponya44

    That depends on ones perception of good I guess.. ..Their starting big killed us in the 1st half,then their other bigs killed us after he sat…A team whose bigs kill the glass can beat anyone since they do not have to make so many shots…

    Given it was a dominating performance over IU;s front court it was a sign that the November version of Wake Forest understood the positioning necessary to beat teams who do not get the importance of that..

    A team is like any other structure..If it is strong from the bottom up it is on the right track..Good teams learn to position properly to make plays .then they build up better execution from there..That was as much them doing enough of the right fundamental things as us doing the wrong ones..You drive for easy baskets when the 3 pointers stop falling ..who did that tonight ??

    Wake played the perimeter just well enough and the post much much better than us..

    This was equally as discouraging as the Eastern Washington game -both in front of pro-IU crowds …Also Danny Manning coached the pants right off Crean tonight..And Crean helped him ..What a nice guy..

  • BoxingGlobe

    Championship defense? This team couldn’t guard a girls JV team.

  • kaponya44

    I am frustrated and you are right ,but it is HOW we lost that is so upsetting .

  • kaponya44

    Well had there been …..say …..another timeout Crean could have possibly called it then …and stopped it with the ball yet to be actually thrown in..Manning stopped a deep 3 in the act of shooting to change the offense and the refs picked it up and gave it to them immediately ..That- too late -deep 3 went in and would have buried us sooner..by the way…

  • kaponya44

    Bingo!!!

  • kaponya44

    I am sure they did …It looks like they just failed to work on smart fundamental defense all summer.Lol

  • hoosiersph2014

    Good luck finding him.

  • BoxingGlobe

    Forget adjustments and bad shots
    And turnovers. This was lost on defense. Even when we made a run, it was because they missed lay ups. Our guards can’t defend. Don’t put that on our big freshman. The guards can’t defend and don’t even try.

    It starts with effort but right there is coaching.

    IU one in done in the tourney. 5th in the big ten.

  • kaponya44

    Maybe Crean and Brian Knorr co taught covering the back end of a defense together…

  • kaponya44

    While I enjoy some of your posts , I do not care if I make friends here or not ..Critique their view instead of slinging petty name calling ..Ironic reply by the way

  • kaponya44

    Beat Duke ,win 20 some games ,contend in the B1G ,and make the tourney ,hell go to the Elite 8 even ,and this does not go away if we do not learn fundamental body positioning……..win or lose – start playing respectable basketball on both ends..If that does not happen this will just be another 2012-13 at best ,but likely much worse …

  • kaponya44

    The destination is Elite in a historical /reputation context only ….That may not last if this current HC tenure continues at this rate..

  • kaponya44

    Maryland – like IU – is over-rated..Did you see how good they made us look last year? Purdue and MSU are the most complete teams so far this year.They completely defend in your face and do not let up nearly so often…A lot can change since it is obviously early ,but it is what it is right now …..

  • kaponya44

    This is still IU so it does not get a lot worse unless you cheat …There is no cloud of investigation anymore ..I am sure plenty of coaches watch us and think – give me t hat job and I am hanging banners…Knight was the coach you hate to follow,Sampson was the coach you hate to clean up after ,but Crean has to be make anyone interested in the IU job salivate since he does everything well but coach them…

  • kaponya44

    Maryland – like IU – is over-rated..Did you see how good they made us look last year? Purdue and MSU are the most complete teams so far this year.They completely defend in your face and do not let up nearly so often…A lot can change since it is obviously early ,but it is what it is right now …..

  • kaponya44

    Agreed !

    I ,like the rest of us , am still waiting for Crean to get the job done 8 years later..

  • kaponya44

    Well said Biz!

  • kaponya44

    I know ..Sparty has him locked down and he probably won’t go anywhere if it is not the NBA..

  • kaponya44

    Right ….I mistakenly blamed Chuck Pagano somewhere in one of these article responses….We all know Pep Hamilton called that last pass play . 😉

  • kaponya44

    Hey ,while you are at it – add in seeing subs for any and every guy who cannot stop the ball…..or block out for that matter….Lol

  • bvillehoosier

    I’m actually glad the stupid streak ended tonight. One of the reasons we lost was exactly that, Yogi trying to extend some BS streak instead of winning the ballgame. Now it’s one less thing to worry about

  • bvillehoosier

    Yogi, Blackmon, and Troy are all 3 pretty selfish “get mine” players. It was evident tonight, Yogi trying to extend his streak, Blackmon jacking up horrid shots not even in rhythm, Troy clapping for the ball to jack up a terrible 3…all 3 want to impress to make it to the next level, all 3 apparently too dumb to understand that just freaking WINNING and going far in the tourney will do more for your stock than some BS streak or non-con game stats…I get more pissed the more I think about it…

  • bvillehoosier

    And it felt exactly like that

  • bvillehoosier

    Funniest joke I’ve heard in awhile that’s for sure…

  • CreamandCrimson

    I don’t think anyone on this board thinks IU should be playing for ESPN highlights or needs warned against doing so but yeah, you mentioned that a few times.

    I have no idea what kind of spirit Troy has or what kind of feedback he is getting from Tom Crean (I assume “teacher” means Tom Crean). I don’t think anyone is being dishonest with Troy but to each his own.

  • CreamandCrimson

    I had to read through a bunch of posts before I found one saying the players were responsible for something. Thanks for actually mentioning it wasn’t just the coaches that had a bad day.

  • hoosiersph2014

    plenty of armchair coaches*

  • BruceA

    Nice One

  • Jim

    The cast is what is it. We all need to compare the bb iq and leadership to other teams. Its not good

  • Dmoe

    Hey what’s good straight? Being in position counts especially when you see the same play over and over.

  • sam

    evile87. I am not accepting t in no way, shape, or form… I choose to let the process wok itself out instead of bashing the coach and team when ever things don’t go the way I wish they should have. What’s the point in that? I love Indiana Basketball as much as any other poster on here. I have for over 50 years.. I choose to support the TEAM & Coaches win lose or draw…

  • eville87

    Sam good point. I’m so sick of the mediocrity every year. I always watch every game for the past 28 years. I just can’t believe with the talent we recruit that we can be this mediocre.

  • twarrior87

    We lost to E. Wash last year… how did the season turn out? Not good. Other big teams lost to lesser opponents this year, but IU needed to take advantage of that. They didn’t. They just evened the field. No matter how you slice it that loss was horrible. Maybe it didn’t ruin the season, but it didn’t help at all.
    Going up against KU in the finals in Maui would have been a huge learning experience for IU whether they won or lost. They would be going up one of the best programs in the nation on a neutral court. Great preparation for tournament time and BIG season. Now they get to play SJU and maybe UNLV. I see this as a huge missed opportunity to help the team grow and prepare for the rest of the season.

  • twarrior87

    Recruit well? getting a couple top 50 players and an McD’s all american or two is recruiting okay… Why aren’t we getting top 10 or even top 20 recruits? I would consider that recruiting well.
    I agree the recruiting isn’t horrible, but it’s not like IU is bringing in top 5 recruiting classes. IU just lost a guy to Miami… Miami… this is the real evidence IU is no longer a destination. when a school like Miami that doesn’t have 1/10 of the basketball tradition IU does is stealing recruits.

  • hoosiersph2014

    I wasn’t downplaying the loss. It was a huge missed opportunity. I’m just saying it’s a long season and I’m not going to let one loss ruin it for me. Final 4 MSU lost to Texas Southern early last year. I know it’s not the same but it shows one game means nothing and there’s really no sense in calling for a coaching change after every single loss. I’m pretty frustrated with the showing against St. Johns today too but who knows..maybe this is the year we get better as the season goes on.

  • twarrior87

    I agree, one game means nothing, but over the years has CTC ever shown he can get a team to improve as the season progresses? Has he ever been able to get that defense to play the way it should? Oladipo was an anomaly, but we don’t have anyone currently who could even defend 1/10 as well as VO.