Bryant, Hartman missing time in preseason with injuries

  • 10/15/2015 11:10 am in

ROSEMONT, Ill. – Indiana’s first day of official practice was less than two weeks ago, but the Hoosiers are already battling injuries.

At Thursday’s Big Ten media day at the Marriott O’Hare, Tom Crean said that freshman Thomas Bryant has only practiced one full day due to a sore arch in his foot.

Additionally, Crean announced that junior forward Collin Hartman is going to be out with a rib injury suffered two days ago in practice. The injury occurred when Hartman took a charge from teammate Troy Williams.

“First off, I’ve never seen Troy jump higher and I’ve never seen a guy be more valiant in taking a charge,” Crean said. “He took a knee right inside of his chest from Troy. He took a charge and I wish he wouldn’t have because he’s going to be out for a little bit because he took some shots to the ribs that are quite sore for him.”

Bryant, a 6-foot-10 freshman who is expected to be a major contributor right away for the Hoosiers in the post, has been spotted wearing a boot around campus.

“He’s only practiced one day for us so far because he had a sore arch in his foot,” Crean said. “So we basically kept him out and he’s just starting to come back now in a little bit of non-contact work.”

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  • Donnie Vick

    I wish for one year we could be big man foot free but hopefully its just a precaution and TB will not miss any games.

  • IULore

    Soreness doesn’t sound serious

  • Gregory Spera

    Bryant has been already claimed by “The Boot?!?” Is this some kind of cruel initiation for Indiana big men?

  • inLinE6

    We have an awesome starting line-up but our bench depth is thin compared to other great teams this year. Our season is heavily relying on the health of these kids.

  • marcusgresham

    Is there some damn requirement that states any player over 6’9 who plays at Indiana has to wear a walking boot?
    Seriously, though, is this something that can be addressed through strength & conditioning so that it stops happening? I’d even go so far as to ask if this is something to bring to the attention of adidas? Not necessarily blaming their shoes for causing problems, but maybe asking them if there is something they could do to develop a shoe that can alleviate these issues.

  • marcusgresham

    Probably means we won’t see either on the floor for Hoosier Hysteria, either.

  • INUnivHoosier

    Somebody get that kid some Dr. Scholl’s inserts.

  • Young Hoosier

    Could be the shoes. Adidas isn’t the most comfortable brand there is.

  • straight no chaser

    We are one injury away from not having an inside game. For those of us dreaming of banners, we should instead be praying for good health, and for less injury-inducing practices.

    Max was also plagued with injury at Michigan.

  • straight no chaser

    Serious question. Are we supposed to be impressed, as Crean wants us to be, by a guy jumping so high, and another taking the knee in the chest? Both acts don’t seem to me so “valiant” but rather monumentally stupid, and the coach should be warning against such meaningless showmanship. Yes? No?

  • TomJameson

    I think it is a strong possibility for it being the shoes. Maybe need some kind of gel soles with good arch support. Maybe custom make their shoes to “mold” them to the players feet for a “perfect” fit and maximum comfort. I really don’t think an effort in that direction would be wasted, on the contrary, I believe it could only help out.

    And it wouldn’t matter really what brand of shoes, the same type of actions could only help (IMO).

  • Brian F.

    Speculation on my part, since I wasn’t in practice and didn’t see exactly what happened, but how Collin Hartman got injured concerns me.
    Based on the explanation from Tom Crean, Hartman took a knee to the chest from Troy Williams. It wouldn’t surprise me if Hartman was trying to slide under Troy (after Troy started his jump) to draw a charge. IF this is what happened, doesn’t IU need to be a little smarter with practice? Yes, injuries are a part of sports. And yes, IU needs to have physical practices to develop toughness and strength for actual games. However, if we have players sliding under our most athletic player after he starts his jump to the hoop during a practice (again, speculation on my part), then that makes no sense to me. First, its not good defense and second no one is stopping Troy if he has started his jump. If Hartman got posterized by Jon Octeus last year, what chance does he realistically have of stopping Troy in that situation? That’s the purpose of the semi-circle in the paint, to alert the defensive player where a charge will not be called.
    I hope Tom Crean realizes that front court depth is an issue with this team and that risky (and unsafe) defensive plays during practice can lead to preventable injuries.

  • TomJameson

    I don’t think CTC was trying to impress anybody, and I don’t really see how you got to that point. He just described how Hartman’s injury happened. The height Troy got helped describe the force behind the blow to Collin, plus he did say he wished Collin hadn’t taken that charge. Valiant just happened to be the word he found first.

    Would think it really would take a bit of courage (or stupidity) to take a charge from a flying Troy. I personally would have gotten out of the way, and I’d also suspect (hope?) that CTC told that same thing to all his players.

  • TomJameson

    He said in the interview that depth was an issue with him.

    Brian, that is a big jump (yes I did .. lol) to say that Collin slid under Troy after he started his jump. I wouldn’t leap to that conclusion at all, especially considering Collin has a pretty good BB IQ. I personally doubt he would do that intentionally.

  • VAHoosier

    Taking a charge is never “stupid.” It’s what good, tough defenders try to do. And TW flying to the rim is not stupid either. It’s what elite athletes try to do.

  • CreamandCrimson

    So you think that Tom Crean should criticize Hartman for taking a charge and Troy for jumping really high and that he should publicly say they were “monumentally stupid”?

  • straight no chaser

    Actually, I think Crean should publicly say nothing, most of the time.

  • straight no chaser

    Bottom line is that we’re prizing a high-risk offense of individual showmanship at a time when we should be coaching Troy into playing a more tempered smarter game.

  • CreamandCrimson

    Okay…you think he should keep quiet. Many others ask for more openness and transparency from Coach Crean (and the program as a whole). As is usually the case, he angers many and pleases many no matter which path he takes.

  • straight no chaser

    I agree with you 100%. So “valiant” sends the wrong message.

  • Brian F.

    Its a speculation on my part on how Collin took a knee to the chest from Troy in practice. Clearly, Collin was late in his defense of Troy, if it was a good charge, Collin’s in legal guarding position before Troy takes his jump. Perhaps Collin was trying to get in front of Troy before the jump and was just late, which could explain Crean’s “valid effort” comment. Its a full speed practice and most likely, Collin made a split-second decision that did not go in his favor.
    Personally, I’m just tired of seeing players try to slide under an offensive player to draw cheap charging foul. Its not fundamental defense and its not safe. Ryan Phillips of Assembly Call references how Duke mastered these tactics and how its been copied in college basketball. It takes toughness and courage to take a legal charge in basketball, but sliding under an offensive player to take a charge because you are late as defender is reckless and dangerous.
    I certainly hope that Collin’s injury was not caused by such a play, but speculating that it could have been the cause. Nothing more, noting less.

  • Ole Man

    You’re right, Brian.
    Way too much speculation.

  • VAHoosier

    I don’t know that anyone is “prizing” anything. Crean described an event in practice. It was a common event: one guy goes to the rim aggressively, and another tries to take a charge. Most coaches and fans (you might be the exception) encourage players to do these things. I don’t understand what the problem is.

  • marcusgresham

    While he does need to play a smarter game, it’s silly to expect him to not use the insane physical advantages he has over just about every other human on the planet.
    That’s like when Emperor Joseph II told Mozart he used “too many notes.”

  • sarge

    Das Boot!?!

  • TomJameson

    It is pure speculation. It’s when you say things like “Clearly, Collin was late in his defense of Troy….” that make it sound like you are rationalizing a guess.

    Nobody likes seeing anybody undercutting a player like that. I’m saying “my guess” is that Collin didn’t do that. Yes, they do practice hard (probably harder than I would like for them to do), but even at that, I think Collin has better sense than that.
    That is my guess.
    That is my guess.

  • TomJameson

    Yes. Like I said, I hope he tells the team to not do that any more. LOL

  • sarge

    Everyone should calm down. I know given our past that this sounds like bad news and everyone is fearing depth and injuries. They aren’t senior citizens though and they should recover from both of these relatively minor injuries quickly which is a blessing to our season projections. I was actually thrilled that someone got caught playing defense already! If you want to be great, you need great effort. That attitude starts with practice and injuries happen, even in practice. I knew I should’ve made popcorn before opening the article!

  • TomJameson

    Unfortunately, that is the truth. CTC is so polarizing that some people will take a word he uses in a sentence, and twist that around to be a bad thing. Like most people, and me for sure, CTC just spits out a word that maybe doesn’t “exactly” fit just perfectly to what he is trying to say. That, ladies and gentlemen, is being human.

    I like it how he does it. He speaks out unless it is covered in the slightest under student privacy. We get to nit-pick him, and how he speaks, all we want, but at least we get some communication from him.

  • TomJameson

    I like the way you think sarge! Especially about the popcorn.

  • SilentBob

    Not to worried about these injuries stretching into the season. Biggest loss here is crucial practice time. Any update on OG? I know he was sporting a boot a few weeks ago for a minor injury. Anyone know whether he is back to practicing full go?

  • SilentBob

    I don’t think it has much to do with the shoes. It’s pretty typical for these minor injuries to occur when you add weight and challenge your body in new ways, especially for big guys. I imagine the boot is just a precautionary measure.

  • ArghSonOfOhCrap

    Well I say he probably flipped out because of two possible injuries. However, it is unlikely he would say to this affect to the public. I have never coached BB but what I would guess that what the public is told is much different then what is told to the team.

  • ArghSonOfOhCrap

    I know Colin is not small but a flying TW who is known for attacking the rim has to be intimidating. I don’t recall an athlete like TW since Mr Calbert40

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  • straight no chaser

    True, and if we win banners it won’t matter, LOL!

  • straight no chaser

    Don’t want to harp on this, but usually when I criticize his use of a word, it’s because I see a pattern. Come on, friend, give me some credit for not acting on a moment’s impulse, LOL.

  • straight no chaser

    Yes, he is talented. But practice does not need to fully simulate a real game, does it? I mean, they could set some obstruction in front of him and have him jump over it all he wants. Does it have to be Collin? LOL.

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  • TomJameson

    I believe you think before you post … at least most of the time. lol

    I believe CTC thinks while he’s speaking. Really, I’m just saying that his word choice is sometimes spurious. But then again, it’s a lot different writing and speaking at an interview.

  • Dooteetime

    I just get real nervous when a big man has foot issues. Hopefully it is not a lingering injury.

  • Doug

    We were big man foot free last year! Oh wait, we didnt have a big man.

  • SCHoosier

    In practice against your own team???…hey you can challenge then get out of the way..injuries can decide the season. Stupid!

  • Eljay

    Anyone who has given a verbal interview that is later reduced to writing is often taken aback at how words that seemed perfectly reasonable when spoken somehow appear less sensible in writing.

  • ArghSonOfOhCrap

    Possibly but TW was better his Softmore more year then Vic. I honestly think that TW will be a Lottery Pick this year.