Indiana makes the cut for a pair of 2016 prospects

  • 08/04/2015 9:35 pm in

Two Indiana recruiting targets in the class of 2016 announced paired down school lists on Tuesday and the Hoosiers remain in the mix for both players.

Schnider Herard, a 6-foot-10 center from Prestonwood Christian in Plano, Texas, is down to 10 schools and Jaylen Fisher (pictured), a 6-foot-2 point guard from Bolton High School in Arlington, Tennessee, named his six finalists.

Herard, who averaged nine points and six rebounds per game for Pro Skills in the Nike EYBL, is still considering Alabama, Arizona, California, Indiana, Kansas, Mississippi State, Purdue, SMU, Texas and Texas Tech.

The 265-pound big man is rated the No. 84 player nationally by the 247Composite.

Fisher starred for Team Thad on the Under Armour Association circuit this year and averaged 20 points, six rebounds and eight assists as a junior at Bolton last season.

He’s considering Arkansas, Baylor, Indiana, LSU, Memphis and UNLV and is rated the No. 58 prospect nationally by the 247Composite. According to the Memphis Commercial Appeal, Fisher had knee surgery on Tuesday to repair a torn meniscus.

(Photo credit: Ned Dishman/Under Armour)

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  • inLinE6

    I guess neither is our top target for the position. But still good news.

  • Dean Olson

    Hadn’t heard much about Fisher, but glad to see we’re on his list. Herard would be a great fit assuming he’s able to run the floor well enough despite his size.

  • IUBizmark

    Fisher seems all about work with little celebrating. I like that a lot.

  • Bill Graham

    Fisher? Where did that come from? Unexpected. His offensive highlights are impressive but I’ve also seen several other highlight vids with guys burning him.

  • GERBILSAURUSREX

    That’s what I’ve heard about him. I didn’t know we were in the mix, but he seems like Crean’s kind of player so I’m also not shocked. Based on what I’ve seen from him, he’s the type of guy who could be scary good after a couple years with Crean.

  • TomJameson

    I’ve seen some highlights from his freshman/sophomore years that weren’t real impressive … but his skills have grown each year, and this past year I guess his confidence in his own game has gone up. Doing it himself instead of deferring to others. Main point is that I like his growth and work-ethic.

  • TomJameson

    I think Herard will (should) keep his weight, but will also be slimming down and adding muscle (losing er…. um…. non-muscle??) LOL
    I believe he will be able to run the floor better after his freshman year at IU. LOL

  • At the Quarries

    I watched a 5-minute story on Schnider Herard his friend D’Jery Baptiste, who both grew up in Haiti (Herard survived the 2010 earthquake). They are interviewed in the short video and seem like great guys. According to the narrator in the video, both had to learn how to play basketball starting in 2013, the year they came to the United States. I don’t know what they grew up playing, but I assume it was soccer. Not putting them down, but we should think hard about what happened to Hanner, great kid and athlete, but did not grow up playing the game of basketball. I would love to have Herard for his character and determination, if nothing else, but it will serve him and us better if we think hard before he becomes a Hoosier.

  • Ole Man

    Fisher is Memphis to lose.

  • IMSKRONG

    Playing time would help. Hanner improved a ton worth playing time but played out of position and in a system that didn’t fit him or use him correctly.

  • Hoosier Hall

    For every Hakeem Olajuwan (soccer) and Tim Duncan (swimming) there are 10,000 Hanner Perea’s. Hanner may still develop into a solid basketball player but the odds are against him. He definitely has all the physical tools.

  • Hoosier Hall

    It would seem that way but Pastner is really floundering and that place is a dumpster fire right now.

  • At the Quarries

    I don’t think it’s about the system. And “system” is too abstract for my brains anyway, lol. Playing time will help anyone, but no amount of playing time at the college level will make up for lost muscle memory IMO. Only rarely I think.

  • marcusgresham

    Eight assists per game in high school is impressive, regardless of where you’re playing because not only do you have to complete passes your success is still contingent upon teammates hitting shots (and most HS kids aren’t great at that.)

  • Arch Puddington

    There is no system in which a player who lacks fundamental basketball skills and instincts can succeed. People fell in love with Perea because of his leaping ability, and many seem never to have gotten past that single amazing talent and accepted him for what he was — a player with neither the skills nor the maturity to succeed at a high D1 program. And neither his background nor his playing time have anything to do with that. He had more than enough experience — coaching, training, and advanced competition for at least 7 years prior his dismissal — to develop his full ability He just couldn’t play.

  • IMSKRONG

    He had one year of playing time. And he improved greatly. He works in a pro like system. Drive and dish. He probably could have learned pick and roll. He would have fit perfect on a team with a PG that could get into the paint and lob it up top.

  • Arch Puddington

    He had three years of D1 practice and physical training, including two years practicing against lottery picks. He missed some games for various reasons, but saw action in 75 games. We saw plenty to know what he is capable of. Here are his points and rebounds from his last 5 games as a Hoosier:

    — 4 pts, 4 rebs.
    — 4, 4
    — 6,3
    — 3,4
    — 3,4

    I see nothing that reflects “great improvement,” but even it if it does, it just represents how little there was to begin with. I’m not down on him personally, I don’t know a thing about him other than from headlines. But he did not have anything like the skills to be a serious player at this level.

  • At the Quarries

    Definitely agree on the lack of skill and the fact that it wasn’t the lack of playing time.. We could disagree about the narrative that explains the lack of skill, and there is nothing “provable” here. I tend to favor explanations that blame circumstance rather than player ability or that elusive thing we call “IQ”. Ha.

  • HoosierfaninKY

    Always thought J Fisher was a lock for Memphis but you never know…. My ddream recruiting class 2016. Deron Davis , M Bridges R Alkins C Jones

  • Hardwood83

    Hey if you’re dreaming why not add Maker and a PG? Not that I’m telling you what to dream…..

  • HoosierfaninKY

    C Jones is a point guard – Curtis Jones
    Maker would be nice but I gotta feeling he is going to ASU

  • Lance76

    I agree with your list and would add another combo to handle ball and shoot. Interesting that Jones and Bridges are visiting the same weekend in late August. Hope that helps with recruitment. TB can’t hurt this cause either.

  • Drew

    Dude, Bruce Brown!

  • Hardwood83

    Ok, I thought Brown was a PG & Jones a SG?
    Probably right about Maker- but a fella can dream!
    Stay strong down there behind enemy lines.

  • James Hoberman

    I’m interested in Fisher. I remember seeing him in a lot of OG’s highlight tape. Very heady point guard, good control/handles, can seemingly shoot it with confidence. Definitely wouldn’t be a bad 4 year guy to get.

  • IMSKRONG

    Practice doesn’t do anything. Hanner improved more in one year than his first 2 simply because of playing time.

  • Arch Puddington

    Yeah, I like the word “instinct” better than IQ. My recollection is that Perea is actually a very bright guy who was getting good grades. But he had no natural feel for the flow of a game and was often out of place at both ends of the floor. Doesn’t make him bad guy, just not a consistent B1G player.

  • Arch Puddington

    “Practice doesn’t do anything”

    I’m glad to let this statement speak for itself.

  • IMSKRONG

    If it did then Hanner would have been very good. But he wasn’t. He didn’t play his first two years. That set him back 2 years. Nothing will prepare you better than playing time.

  • Bill Graham

    No matter how good Fisher is. He’ll never be as good as (arguably) the greatest Hoosier ever, Don Fischer. Easily my MVP every year.