Right call made in dismissals of Davis, Mosquera-Perea

  • 05/14/2015 9:22 pm in

The message sent from IU announcing the dismissals of Devin Davis and Hanner Mosquera-Perea on Thursday was succinct. It needed no further explanation.

Enough is enough.

In less than 35 words, the program announced Davis and Mosquera-Perea failed to live up to their responsibilities. Effective immediately, they were no longer part of the team.

Both players were given second chances by Tom Crean to remain with the program after making mistakes that exhibited a lack of judgement. In Mosquera-Perea’s case, it was operating a vehicle under the influence of alcohol on Feb. 14, 2014, which could have resulted – but fortunately did not – in a serious injury. And in the case of Davis, it was a disregard for Crean’s advice for 20 minutes earlier that night of what to steer clear of on Halloween night. In the early morning hours of Nov. 1, 2014, Davis was involved in a serious accident that also involved alcohol.

With their poor decisions this week, when Davis was cited for possession of marijuana in an on-campus housing building with Mosquera-Perea also present, both players showed that getting a second chance meant more to Crean than it did to them. And in the process, Davis and Mosquera-Perea lost their futures in Bloomington.

The decision to dismiss them had to be made. They had run out of chances to remain a part of the program.

When Crean reached Sweet 16’s in consecutive seasons in 2012 and 2013, his program was led by high character players like Christian Watford, Cody Zeller, Jordan Hulls and Victor Oladipo, who never made headlines for their off the court issues.

But dating back to February of 2014, when Mosquera-Perea was arrested, the program has dealt with arrests and multiple suspensions stemming from an assortment of off the court incidents. All of it came to a tipping point last fall when Davis was hospitalized for 19 days after being struck by a car driven by Emmitt Holt near Memorial Stadium.

But for six months, the focus surrounding Indiana basketball was primarily on the court as the Hoosiers finished 20-14 and made the NCAA tournament after their absence from the postseason in 2013-2014.

This offseason began with great optimism as Thomas Bryant signed with the program and Yogi Ferrell, James Blackmon Jr. and Troy Williams all opted to return to school after exploring their NBA draft options.

As a result, the Hoosiers find themselves in the top 15 in several preseason polls. All of that positive news was apparently not enough for either player to realize that a special season could be on the horizon and both could have been a part of it by simply staying out of trouble.

Those preseason accolades are unlikely to change as a result of either dismissal, but IU’s depth certainly took a hit. Now the focus, unnecessarily, has again shifted from on the court to off of it.

There are, of course, no winners as a result of today’s news. Crean undoubtedly wants what is best for the players, but ultimately must do what is best for the program as its leader. And for Davis and Mosquera-Perea, the new reality is that both will be looking for new homes to complete their careers.

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  • TomJameson

    And the same hope for the rest of the team as well.
    Well said Gregory.
    Well said Gregory.

  • IUMIKE1

    First off let me say that I’m not a big crean supporter, I was at one time, but would describe myself as being on the fence and waiting for next year’s results before deciding what side of the fence I will climb down on. I may have to admit I was wrong about some things and give him his due sometime in the future or I may tell myself that I was right to be on the fence and have my doubts about several things. I have more than 1 or 2 things that I think should be done differently than it is and feel like it is on TC that it isn’t getting done for whatever reason.

    Anyway I remember watching the clip that you provided the link to, thank you. I rewatched the clip to refresh my memory on exactly what Izzo said and there are a couple of times that he says a little something about TC, ” are there some things that he has to own and are there some things that he needs to change about when it comes to coaching bball, yea.” He also premised and followed them up with, ” but then again I and pretty much everybody else does too “, so I don’t know that I would call it Izzo pointing out large and obvious faults of Crean’s.

  • IUfanforever

    Can you count Ole Man? 1st chance was when Crean and Indiana gave them a scholarship, 2nd chance for Hanner was a one game suspension for DUI…3rd chance was last summer as a team was when players were tested positive for drugs…ie Stanford Robinson and Troy Williams. Not to include a warning that all the players were moved into on campus dorms to eliminate this kind of problem.. They were warned as a team and as individuals. Then the fact of what happened to DD. CREAN AND this administration has warned them several times and some listened and these 2 did not. So they pay the price of not following rules for the team , the University and society. They are part of a team and if DD plays last year….we perhaps with his talent win 4-5 more games. So DD let his team down and himself. Yes the blame is on them and they earned it. Crean did what was right and to question his judgement on this is a travesty. You are so delusional in your thoughts.

  • Drew

    I have followed ITH since 2011. But the premium forum isn’t that expensive (less than 35 a year) and the content is better. Alex and Jordan are a lot more involved there as well and the discussions are usually a lot better. I have never once regretted my decision.

  • Ole Man

    The primary travesty is your thinking.
    The secondary travesty is that you’re sharing that thinking in a post.
    1st chance? Seems they were also taking a chance.
    Hanner didn’t test positive for drugs last summer.
    After that the yada, yada gets really thick.

  • SCHoosier

    Disagree with your first sentence. U must have watched different games that I did..because after bad plays..people were brought to the bench on several occasions.

  • IUfanforever

    The real travesty is your ignorance to simple logic. Let’s see you cannot count and you cannot read. If you would have read my previous post correctly Ole Man you would have understood that I said as a team after Hanner had a DUI during last season and that Stanford and Williams was tested positive for weed last summer. All IU basketball players have accountability as a team…so Crean had all players put in dorms to where they could not live in off Campus housing. The YADA YADA comes from the lack of oxygen to your brain to understand simple English.

  • Ole Man

    Grow up little boy. You have drool running out your mouth instead of any logic.

  • IUfanforever

    Lol another irrational post by you Ole Man since I am a grown man at 51 years of age and raised two College Athletes in both Basketball and Football. Again your clueless to simple logic and reason. At this point your tongue is hanging out of your mouth so far that it is lapping the ignorance of these posts off your rear end!

  • HannerTime Hoosier

    So an entire season of pathetic defense, how many players were brought to the bench throughout the game???!!! BS

  • Ole Man

    If you’re a grown man, then post like one. References to lapping one’s rear end belong to juveniles.

  • IUfanforever

    Okay what does the comment about suggesting that I have drool running out of my mouth suggest with your juvenile comment? I figured since you couldn’t read simple adult English as I had written in earlier posts that you wanted me to talk to you as a 10 year old and that might help you understand simple logic. However as I can see logic and simple common sense doesn’t compute into your brain for reasoning.

  • CEP

    I was told that by people within the team.

  • CEP

    There’s an article that if you type in “Win one for Ron Patterson, Indiana Syracuse” Ron talks about it.
    It won’t let me paste it, but it’s easy to find.

    Other than that, Noah left early because within a few weeks he already thought Crean was a creep and absolutely hated him. Then followed half the team.

    Honestly, we’re with Crean for some time as we’ll be good enough that you can’t fire him and Brad seems set in Boston, so not much else to go after.

    Either way, I can still call a spade a spade and admit when my favorite teams coach is a whack job.

  • SCHoosier

    Blackmon and Rob..and Troy on multiple occasions I can remember. (It may have been 2 plays after the bad play..but they were pulled) Of course..there was no better defensive player to sub for them..so guess I would have to ask what was the point. U really do need to get over yourself about Crean. “These things have a way of working themselves out.”

  • Bill Graham

    wow man you get really easily offended. So you’re saying as a Hoosier fan you dont want a replacement for a lost player? You’re saying its inhumane to want an improvement athletically and discipline-wise? Its not like a said “Oh Hanner and Davis suck I wish them the worst! How Dare they!? How could they!?”…no….i went to IU… i was social…i get it…and on top of it all…they’re Indiana boys…I wish them the best…but they’re adults ole man. Even your name implies that you understand that there are consequences for poor decisions…and as a result of those consequences the world balances itself out and so will this program. Its nothing personal or inhuman, its just life. And in this state life and basketball go hand in hand.

  • Vernon Aldrich

    Sorry I struck a nerve – with you AND IUMIKE1…Nothing at all to do with race for me, but the fact that you played the card says it’s at the core of your thinking. I have been a very strong supporter of both these boys. If you and Mike aren’t good friends, I’m sure you will be. Have a good life gentlemen, I’m not interested in wasting my time engaging in fruitless conversation. My point is valid for those that can see it. You two obviously can’t. You have my sympathy.

  • Vernon Aldrich

    You’re right about the stupid BS IUMIKE1, and most of it seems to come from you and “At the Quarries”. Regarding the relevance of a person’s politics, it’s absolutely revealing about a their belief system regarding individual responsibility and their relation to society. My thanks to you and “At the Quarries” for continually making my point through the comments you post. Best regards.

  • Blair McKee

    I will admit to paying far more attention to IU b-ball than all other programs combined, so perhaps I just see more issues in the IU program because I read about this program so much. So, honest question: Do other major college programs have this much knuckle-headedness?

  • calbert40

    Fair point, but I look at it as two young men doing something stupid that nearly resulted in catastrophic injury to someone. DD may have been the one who jumped in front of EH, but they both were being foolish.

  • calbert40

    As a self-professing Ole Man, I’d hope you’d have a little more maturity than to muck it up with the lowest common denominator on here. Just because some people are resorting to base attacks against DD and HMP doesn’t mean that it’s okay to respond in like fashion.

    As I said previously, I don’t always agree with you, but I respect your opinions. But name calling is below the belt, IMO. Unless the person is a complete troll…then we can have some fun with him! 🙂

  • calbert40

    You have a point on the leniency shown in the past. So far as people on ITH, I’m considered a “Crean lover,” though that is an unfair characterization. Still, I was extremely aggravated about that punishment. I thought HMP should have been suspended for the season and his role on the team revisited over that summer based on his contrition.

    But that ship has sailed, and just because Crean was lenient in the past does not mean he must remain lenient in the present or future. Every incident is a separate issue, and we aren’t privy to all of the details of the back story. So I have no issue at all with Crean laying down the hammer this time. In fact, I think that it is best to error on the side of leniency on a first offense, but to error on the side of harshness on multiple offenses. I do think this harsh punishment will have an effect on the rest of the players on the roster. I think players are now on notice.

  • calbert40

    They may not have intended to disrespect the university, their teammates or their coach, but they did put their own pleasure and desires above all of them. They acted selfishly and impulsively. They are young, I get it, and all of us have indiscretions from our past. I’m not throwing stones in a glass house. However, just because lots of young people act in a similar manner doesn’t excuse their actions. For every action there is a consequence. In this instance, their consequence is severe, but considering there has been a pattern of behavior like this for both of them, I stand with Crean on the punishment.

  • calbert40

    “Saintly moralizer,”
    “Stupid,”
    “You’d make a great communist,”
    “squealer,”

    I fail to see how the socio-economic Marxist model fits here, but it’s a great name calling trump card, I guess. And then you quote the Golden Rule out of context too. Keep up the good work, OM. You are hitting it out of the park.

  • b_side

    Probably referring to the 9-game suspension his freshman. HMP was a victim there, but I guess he was technically involved.

  • b_side

    Nix was only arrested for driving while high…and then charges were reduced. No second-offenses like HMP or DD.

    Korie Lucious had a DUI and then Izzo kicked him off a year or two later for his second offense (smoking weed; oh the irony).