Five takeaways from Indiana’s win over New Orleans

  • 12/23/2014 11:15 am in

Indiana moved to 10-2 on Monday night with a comfortable 79-59 win over New Orleans at Assembly Hall. Here’s a look at five takeaways from the victory over the Privateers:

· Indiana is building depth: In the past, Tom Crean has described depth as not having much, if any, drop off in production when going to the bench. That’s a lofty goal for any team and IU’s team a season ago certainly didn’t achieve it. Through 12 games, this group of Hoosiers seems to be on the right path in establishing depth that can go eight or maybe even nine deep at times.

So what’s different? Personnel, for one.

The addition of Nick Zeisloft hasn’t been talked about much, but his 42.4 percent 3-point shooting has been a major boost. The emergence of Collin Hartman as an efficient offensive player who can also defend and rebound gave the coaching staff the confidence to start him in the second half of the Butler game. And guys like Emmitt Holt, Stanford Robinson and Max Hoetzel have all made solid contributions at times, but still need to develop that consistency.

Last season, Indiana’s success was too married to the play of Yogi Ferrell. So far this season, Indiana is getting balance — three guys scored in double figures against New Orleans and three others had eight points — which is a model more likely to produce consistent success.

· Mosquera-Perea continues to make strides: As Ryan noted in The Minute After, there was a time after the Pittsburgh win where IU fans questioned whether Hanner Mosquera-Perea deserved to start over freshman Emmitt Holt.

The last four games have proven that Mosquera-Perea is not only improved as a junior, but that he continues to add new wrinkles to his game each week. The last two games have been very good for Mosquera-Perea from both a rebounding and shot blocking perspective as his instincts look sharper. And his confidence offensively seems to be on the rise in the wake of the Louisville game, where he scored 10 points against one of the country’s better and more athletic frontcourts.

Monday night was another step in the right direction for the Colombia native as he finished with 12 points, six rebounds and four blocks in 25 minutes.

· Ferrell’s consistency: After a freshman season where he struggled with his shot and with turnovers (at times), Yogi Ferrell didn’t look to be on the path of becoming one of the nation’s better offensive point guards.

Ferrell’s shooting as a sophomore was much improved, but he’s taken it to another level as a junior. He’s scored in double figures in all but one of IU’s 12 games, he’s making close to 47 percent of his 3s, his free throw rate is up, his assist rate is up while his turnover percentage is down.

And beyond the offense, he’s taking it upon himself to guard the opposition’s best player, which Crean praised him for heavily after the Butler win. Ferrell might be flying under the radar right now when discussing the nation’s best point guards, but he clearly belongs in the discussion.

· Another strong night for Hartman: If you get to Assembly Hall early enough, you can catch a glimpse of the first IU player on the floor about 90 minutes before tip. Two seasons ago, it was Jordan Hulls and Victor Oladipo. Last season, it was Noah Vonleh. And this season, it’s been Collin Hartman.

Last night, Hartman was on Branch McCracken Court working on his perimeter game with associate head coach Tim Buckley. The extra work is paying dividends for Hartman, who is making 65 percent of his 2s and 45 percent of his 3s as a sophomore. Through 12 games, Hartman ranks in the top five nationally in offensive rating according to KenPom.com. He’s also hitting the glass hard as his seven rebounds led Indiana against New Orleans.

An afterthought in the preseason following an offseason knee injury, Hartman is establishing himself as an essential piece of the IU rotation.

· Second half lull: New Orleans never really challenged IU in the second half, but the Hoosiers were outscored 37-35 after intermission, which is the main negative coming out of the win.

The Hoosiers got sloppy with the ball in the second half (eight turnovers), missed six of 10 free throws and allowed 30 points in the paint after only giving up 14 in the first half.

Still, a win is a win and 10-2 heading to Madison Square Garden is a solid position for a team that should continue to improve.

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  • Had to clean up this thread and remove a few folks who clearly aren’t here to engage in discussion that is productive.

    If you resort to putting down others, there’s no tolerance for that here.

  • b_side

    It’s amazing what happens to your perspective of Crean when you have the facts as opposed to assuming he kept someone on the bench as a coach’s decision.

  • Brklynhoosier

    Yogi’s our best player, hands-down. But he’s at least 10 times more talented than Collin. W/ the exception of getting pushed around vs Louisville, CH has been playing some pretty flawless basketball. This is what I love about the college game: the opportunity to watch players develop. Collin keeps on this path (and knock on wood, stays healthy), I see his ceiling at… Brian Evans? That would be plenty good….

  • enickman

    A good point and Colin will learn from the UL game. It will only make him better as it should help make the whole team better. All good and love the Brian Evans reference!

  • Kyl470

    I agree. Sadly had Sudfield not got hurt this year I think the team would have been able to win enough games to make a bowl game this year.

  • enickman

    Agree with Joe here. You have to compare apples to apples to be fair.

  • enickman

    Hopefully you have some prospects on the horizon soon! Have a Merry Christmas and my family will keep you in our prayers! Go Hoosiers!

  • enickman

    You do a great job Alex but in this case I don’t think it was cleaned up in a equitable manner. IMHO

  • PBzeer

    They’re definitely making the kind of progress we didn’t see last season. Hopefully, that will prove true in the Georgetown game. If it does, then I think a top 6 finish in the B1G should be easily achieved, and quite possibly higher. What I find most encouraging though, is the apparent understanding of how the offense can be fueled by the defense, because I think the real key to this season is going to be our defense, not offense. Hopefully, the Butler game won’t be a one off like the Michigan game last year, defensively.

  • Chappy Dan

    Or maybe he would have been choked…

  • SilentBob

    See the difference between me and you is I believe he is trying to put a different peg in a different hole

  • An ESPN interview with Dante Exum last June revealed that Exum would have committed at IU (instead of UK, UNC) if he’d gone the college route instead of straight to the NBA. If that would have had a trickle-down effect to entice Vonleh to stay, this team would have been scary!

  • #4: Glass half full: we’re guaranteed that one of them will in fact lose.

  • InTheMtns

    Indeed.

  • Holy crap, you guys actually read every post? I always appreciated your journalism skills. Where do you find the time?

  • John D Murphy

    Formula to dance. 20 wins.
    10 in the bank
    3-0 vs Rutgers and NW
    2-1 vs PSU and PU (hopefully 3-0)
    4-2 vs Mich, MN, Nebraska, Illinos, Iowa, G’town
    2-5 vs MSU, OSU, Wisc, Maryland
    0-1 B1G Tourney (we always disappoint)
    =21-11 and I think we get in.

  • FinEndNow

    Go Yogi!!!!

  • b_side

    Love Hartman as much as the next. But Evans was BIG POY and a first round pick. Just not seeing that kind of level as his ceiling.

  • Brklynhoosier

    You’re probably right, I’m getting a little carried away. But if memory serves, Evans redshirted his first year, and even the next year, when he debuted, he was really just a catch-and-shoot. I don’t think anyone predicted him hitting those marks then either. In any case, it took him 5 years to get there (as the featured scorer on a mediocre team).

    [Fwiw, I don’t think he ever actually played in the NBA? Seem to recall his career taking him to Italy instead…]

  • Thanks ForeverIU.. Not sure what this guys problem is, but most of what he posts I illogical and twisted in some way to try to make a point, that really isn’t valid. Do you think he really is an IU fan? Hard to tell.

  • Dave Carnes

    Sounds reasonable.reasonable. In fact we might do a little better.Did I miss the game where Ohio State looked impressive?Unless Izzo convinces the refs to let his boys push and shove”and that could happen”They look like crap.We have 4 guards better than there best.

  • Dave Carnes

    never draw anything from an IU Michigan game.For some reason we have had there number extending all the way back to Mike Davis.

  • Dave Carnes

    He plays HARD defense.If troy played like that the opponents would soil themselves.

  • Dave Carnes

    Everybody seems to be gelling into what they can do best to help the team.Stan well get there.

  • Dave Carnes

    Because of all the reasons mentioned.

  • Dave Carnes

    I will say this an IU fan who hasn’t become accustom to gripping about the players and Coach recently haven’t been watching.These last 4 games excluded.

  • Dave Carnes

    Now your saying you didn’t watch the game or just being argumentative.

  • TomJameson

    Ken, that’s why I don’t really complain about CTCs recruiting, or recruits. He doesn’t knock them all out of the park, but IMO he is a scary judge of talent and “potential”.

  • ForeverIU

    Judging from previous posts, I think he is an IU fan, which makes it even more urgent to counter his selective use of “facts”.

  • marcusgresham

    I’m certain of that. Hell, if either of the two who transferred would have stuck around it would have been enough.

  • Outoftheloop

    Check out the points/ min, the rebounds/ min, the assists/TO, the steals/ min, etc. His limited number of shots and FT’s so far this season skew your stats. If Stan goes 8/10 on either, his % jumps.

  • Outoftheloop

    A very incomplete set of observations!

  • RU4IU2

    Watched his YouTube videos and all he basically did in the Nike EYBL was block shots, tip ins and finish on alley-oops. He’s a mini-HMP without the serious hops or perhaps a CW-look alike without an outside or mid-range shot. A video w/2 analysts agree that he has a great attitude & work ethic, good HS coach and the potential to provide productive minutes. I don’t see him in the “post” at 6’7″…where does Emmitt fit into your scheme if JM = Post, HMP = PF/Weak side???

  • RU4IU2

    I’d like to see a game in which both of them are on the court logging PT minutes…

  • It’s the same guys, the same coach and the same basketball… Regardless if guys on here like to hear it or not, most of these guys are ‘young’ relative to college level basketball.. You just need to be more patient and give them a chance to grow a little. It ain’t goin’ to happen over night.. The only difference in the last four games? They’re hard work is paying off and they’re gettin’ better. I just want us to go ahead and beat Georgetown now…

  • RU4IU2

    I’d like to share your optimism with Mich-MN-NE group, but I just don’t see us doing well against teams which have experienced, solid big men. At best, I see opportunities to grab wins vs Michigan, MN & G’town. NE, IL & IA pose formidable threats because each has players who defend the paint and get on the glass w/o fouling.

  • RU4IU2

    That’s funny.

  • bojak

    I agree with you 125%. It just amazes me, halfway through his college career and he decides to switch shooting hands. It ain’t going to work period.

  • bojak

    He should be getting his confidence up during practice not in league play. Also CTC has been critisized for not always having the right players on the floor. I bet before the season is over you will change your mind about SR.

  • marcusgresham

    I thought Morgan was 6’10”. My bad.

  • Hoosier4life67

    I had to buy a sports package to get BTN with my COX prescription. Now they want me to pay even more money on top of it? BTN just got to big for their pants. At least let us watch the game after the fact. Don’t want us to watch it live that’s fine but why not on a replay?

  • Hoosier4life67

    So how many B1G games are we going to miss out on this year? If anyone knows please let me know. I was able to watch every B1G game last year. Hope that wont be a problem this year.

  • CreamandCrimson

    You shouldn’t have to miss any B1G games. The Maryland game (January 22) is on ESPNU, the rest of them are on either ESPN, ESPN2, CBS or the BTN.

  • RU4IU2

    Since TC’s offensive sets don’t feature post play, per se, he may end up there. Daryl Thomas was about the same size and he did pretty well in the paint back in the day.

  • Brian Stewart

    Crean doesn’t play with a 5. He runs with 3 guards and two forwards. The dribble drive offense doesn’t rely on a big center. It’s about spreading the defense out, driving the paint, and kicking to shooters if the drive isn’t there. It’s certainly not a motion offense like Bob Knight ran looking for open shots, and even with Cody he didn’t feed the post like most teams would. A big lumbering Center isn’t going to get recruited by IU as long as Crean is here because that isn’t the type of game he coaches. He’d rather have a 6’8″ guy that can run than a 7’2″ guy that can’t.

  • millzy32

    So sad but true. He actually was a good coach and he actually wanted to be at IU.

  • joe9225

    My original intent wasn’t to be combative towards other fans, and just because many of my comments didn’t have a rah-rah attitude (and perhaps directly challenged a point made in your piece), doesn’t necessarily mean they were inaccurate or nonproductive. I certainly apologize for any rules I may have broken on your site, but at the same time, I’m a little disappointed there seems to be clear favoritism towards those who don’t pose questions that, while might not be positive or popular to some, are still pretty evident to others who want to be realistic about what’s happening on the court. I also found it pretty classless that while many of my comments were removed and I was one who was blocked, another user directly called me a “puke troll” and that comment remains on the site. Although you might not have found my comments to be “productive,” I never once stooped to that level while defending myself, or the points I made throughout this discussion.

    Joe H