The Minute After: Texas Southern

  • 11/17/2014 8:29 pm in

Thoughts on a 83-64 win over Texas Southern:

I. Robert Johnson came out of the gate hot. He headed to the locker room at halftime with a line that would have looked nice after a full 40: 17 points (5-of-6, 3-of-3 from distance), four assists and three rebounds. Johnson’s ability to handle the ball, dribble-drive and score or find the open teammate in the corner for 3-pointers makes him incredibly valuable within Indiana’s offense. When the competition stiffens Johnson may find it harder to drive into the paint, but he’s making a strong case for a starting spot even when Troy Williams and Stanford Robinson come back from suspension Thursday against SMU.

At the very least, he’s going to give Tom Crean an option off the bench without much dropoff from the starting backcourt.

II. Hanner Mosquera-Perea played arguably his best game as a Hoosier tonight against the Tigers. He scored a career-high (12 points) with some back-to-basket scores, a breakaway dunk, a jumper and a pick-and-roll bucket. Mosquera-Perea also notched a career-high five blocks, looking like a man against boys at times with a couple of the chasedown variety. He did have three turnovers and only five rebounds, but he looked confident on both ends of the court and continues to look like an improved and capable player despite the miscues.

III. The offensive numbers were again impressive: 1.19 points per possession, 66% eFG, 10-of-15 from 3-point range, four players in double-figures (Johnson: 21, Yogi Ferrell: 20, James Blackmon Jr: 19, Mosquera-Perea 12). But after heading to the locker room with a 15-point lead, the Hoosiers let an undermanned Texas Southern squad hang around for too long. The Tigers never got closer than 10 and there was never any real threat of them taking the lead. But over the final 20 minutes of the contest, Indiana only outscored the Tigers 39-35.

Indiana didn’t get to the line particularly well in this one (a 28.5 free throw rate compared to Texas Southern’s 27.5) and shot only 9-of-16 (56.3 percent) from the charity stripe, the same mark as the Tigers.

And despite Mosquera-Perea’s five blocks, half of Texas Southern’s points (32) came in the paint. Indiana also allowed a small Tigers team to rebound 32.4 percent of its misses, while Indiana only snagged 24 percent of their own.

Indiana did a better job with turnovers tonight with a turnover percentage of 18.6 percent. Though not exactly great, it was better than a sloppier Tigers squad (23 percent).

IV. With two exhibitions and two that count in the books, Indiana is shaping up to be an offensive team with a lot of shooters that can punish you and a few guards that can either set those shooters up or knock ’em down themselves. But it’s also a team that’s deficient on the boards and has room for improvement on defense.

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That’s what makes Thursday’s matchup against a legit SMU squad so intriguing. Can the Hoosiers keep the hot hand going? With Troy Williams, Stanford Robinson and Emmitt Holt back from suspension, how will the rotation shake out? Can Mosquera-Perea keep it going?

The first test of the year is upon us, and we’ll soon find out the answers to these questions.

V. Last but not least: Good to see the Mike Davis scowl is still in full effect. And even better to hear the Hoosier faithful give him a warm welcome upon return.

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  • ForeverIU

    I hope and trust we will see more of what you’re prescribing when Troy and Stan are back on board.

  • Connecticut Hoosier

    Appreciate the update, I don’t get many updates on DD on the east coast.

  • ForeverIU

    I forgot to mention also that Coach Crean clearly choked up when he talked about Devin.

  • Connecticut Hoosier

    I 100% agree with this post, I thought there was a lack of hustle on D from a few of our players. CH was the exception. The energy level on D is still not there. Why is HP (The Hammer) so winded?
    We have so many good shooters on this team there is no reason for Yogi to dribble into oblivian and turn the ball over and / or take a contested shot. Start playing like a top 30 player. Move the ball and take open shots.

  • IUBizmark

    Funny you mentioned his dropped passes. I think it’s because his hands are HUGE and his fingers actually curl in the resting position. Everyone’s is like this, but if your fingers are 6 inches long, I image that causes problems for him. Either way, I hope he gets it resolved ASAP.

  • ForeverIU

    Rebounding and the problem of definitions. If we have high shooting percentages, we will have a smaller pool of shots that are reboundable (missed shots). Also, the more turnovers, the less possessions that will result in a shot, let alone a missed shot, thus a smaller pool of reboundable misses. In other words, careful how you interpret those numbers, LOL!


    And at least one of them was the, jump in the air and then try to pass it to someone type. Add in the fact that, on one of them, he jumped into the air under the basket and across the baseline. He does a lot of things for this team and most of them good, but I really wish he wouldn’t do that, especially under the basket and up and over the baseline. Last year a lot of us gave him somewhat of a pass on the number of TOs he had by saying that he had to have the ball in his hands so much, but so far he has not had to do that but still seems to be making some of the same mistakes. I haven’t analyzed the numbers but that sure seems to be how it is.

  • CreamandCrimson

    Seems that he gets emotional every time he talks about Devin’s recovery (not that I blame him)…people can, and do, criticize a lot about CTC but there’s no doubt that he cares for his players and for their families.

  • SilentBob

    I’m not overly concerned how deep Hanner is on the post up. He isn’t exactly a muscle it up guy. If he had Zellers control it might even be ideal for him to post up a little further away with his mix of jump shot and athleticism. It could theoretically open up cutting lanes, and if the guards crash on him they now have their back turned to their man with little space/time to square up on a pass out. Having their back turned to our multidimensional, quick releasing guards is bad news bears for the opposition, especially if our guards have a decent pump fake. It could also provide easier intro passes for our shorter team.


    I noticed that as well. If I’m not mistaken he finished with his left hand more than once.


    I will be VERY surprised if TW doesn’t start. He may not log the amount of minutes that he will later on in the schedule, but think he starts in place of NZ. As far as who comes off the bench first, think it will be NZ, SR or CH depending on who he is taking off the floor.

  • SilentBob

    I’m not a big fan of comparing teams statistically, especially at this point in the season. We’ve beat Michigan before while they handled the ball well. What’s important is that we’re improving night in and night out. Which we are. We had six less turnovers last night than game one. Some of that has to do with style, but not all. Game one NZ, RJ, JBJ, combined for 83 total minutes and 10 turnovers. Game two those three play 101 total minutes and have three turnovers. 8 of our 13 turnovers game two came from two sources (Hanner and Yogi). I don’t know how much better they will get, I hope they do, but I don’t want to sacrifice Yogi’s aggression for a turnover or two. He also played 38 minutes last night, I hope he doesn’t play much more than 35 on the season. I just did a quick overview of the big games we lost last year, Yogi had a lot of turnovers in them, he also usually played 35 minutes or more in them… Coincidence?

  • SilentBob

    Excellent post. I was thinking about our conversation about turnovers and Yogi’s minutes last night and did a bit of box score research. I don’t get the Kenpom and all that so I make use of what I have. I posted this to another person below as well. In a lot of big losses we had last year Yogi had 3 or more turnovers, he also usually played 35 minutes or more…. Coincidence? Getting Stan back should help him with those minutes. Also eight of thirteen turnovers come from two sources… The team as a whole I think did a MUCH better job. RJ, JBJ, NZ combine for 83 minutes game one and have 10 turnovers. Game two those three play 101 minutes and have three turnovers.

  • John D Murphy

    TW’s defense is way better than NZ’s. I’m not sure what you have been watching. If Troy can put down the pipe long enough, he might be our best all around player.

  • ForeverIU

    I agree with you totally that he will get the starter minutes, but I clarified below what I mean: that not “officially” starting might be more of more symbolic move to protect the suspended players from the holier-than-thou crowd. Don’t want to belabor this point, and maybe it’s a non-issue.

  • Aiken_Hoosier

    If we’re strictly talking basketball, Troy absolutely has earned his way into the starting lineup. Don’t forget how well he played in Canada against teams that are as good (probably better) than either team we’ve played so far stateside.

    IMO, the actual “punishment” has to end at some point and the “discipline” part has to take over. I think Troy has paid his dues and now it’s time to move forward and think about things from a basketball standpoint. If that’s our mindset, there’s no way he’s not in the starting lineup.

    Now, the Robert over Stan thing as 6th man has some validity….and that’s strictly based on basketball. RJ is every bit as good, IMO.

  • N71

    Agree with the starters, at this rate Rob could end up being our best player. NZ, CH, SR, EH, MH give us some nice options if fatigue, foul trouble, or injury occur. Hanner fouling is the only hole we can’t plug.

  • Max

    Another example is Anthony Bennett – apparently, he couldn’t see the scoreboard or the people in the stands. It’s amazing how things like this get ignored even at the pro level. That being said, his improved eyesight post laser surgery has not upped his game that much.

  • Ole Man

    Wow! Never thought I’d hear those thoughts out of you.
    Loop, that was extremely well said without being critical of Coach Crean. Not only do I agree with you, I applaud you for the “fairness” of your critique and evaluation.

  • Ole Man

    Two of those guards are 6’5 or taller. The other is Yogi’s size and their Wooden award candidate.

  • Ole Man

    Never said that he would. However, JBJ MUST step up his D.

  • Ole Man

    We’re both Hoosiers. We’re always on the same side! LOL!

  • Dave Carnes

    I am a huge Nic Moore fan and watched both of there games.I don’t think they look very good.To many ball player from Texas means you don’t have a real high BBall IQ.

  • Dave Carnes

    I beg to differ. Last year troys man got by him way to much.His defense was terrible especially for a young man with his apparent athletic ability

  • CreamandCrimson

    You are certainly entitled to your opinion. They may or may not have looked good so far this season, I only saw their first half against Gonzaga. I can’t just let a comment like “to many ball player from Texas means you don’t have a real high BBall IQ” slide by.

    In my opinion, that is an incredibly reductionist and unfair thing to post. You are basically saying that players from Texas don’t have high basketball IQ. Generalizations about large groups of people rub me the wrong way. Maybe I’m in the wrong there but I think sweeping generalizations are a terrible way to think.

  • g. mann

    I have to agree that Nick looked slow last night and Stan will help shore up the perimeter D.

  • Dave Carnes

    I don’t know what reductionist means but I have noticed that ballplayers from the south west often don’t play the game like kids from basketball country.That might explain why Indiana has so many more division one ball players.Your turn name some basketball legends from the great state of Texas.

  • CreamandCrimson

    My only point is that I don’t think it’s fair to say that players from Texas don’t have “real high BBall IQ”. I’m not comparing Texas to Indiana or to the Midwest because I don’t think a player’s knowledge is automatically determined by the state he’s from.

    Anyway, since you asked…there are plenty of really good players from Texas. Grant Hill, Chris Bosh, Bill Sharman, Larry Johnson, Lamarcus Aldridge, Spud Webb…Also, Texas annually has among the most prospects in the recruiting “top 100” lists. I’m not trying to stick up for Texas, I just don’t agree with blanket statements about a group of people’s intelligence/basketball IQ. You feel differently and that’s okay, have a nice day and go Hoosiers.

  • oldiugymnast

    This is just a guess – but it seems like HMP is a big mass of fast-twitch muscle, which isn’t really good for endurance. Not that he can’t get better, but just guessing by how he can nearly touch the top of the backboard, he is a mostly fast twitch kid. It takes a little more effort and pain threshold for someone built that way to not be winded.

  • KevOMG

    Thanks Max. Exactly the type of story I mean. Sometimes little things might be missed…

    Regardless, kids looking improved. Hopefully he keeps up the impact in tough games. Solid start for the young man.

  • KevOMG

    I wish I had that problem hahaha. 5’7″ doesn’t equate to those problems for me….. sigh…

  • 3AM Burrito

    Of all the players, Yogi has been the least impressive to me. Taking most shots on team, many forced, and some bad turnovers. Blackmon and Johnson much better at letting game come to them.

    Yogi does have assists, but also seems to have startlingly bad passes. Had easy alley oop chance to JBJ couldn’t execute. I like Yogi but maybe pressing too much early to live up to preseason accolades.

  • IUJeff

    The difference is that RJ, JBJ, and Max are very smart players and smart players make the smart plays most often.

    Our guys that turn the ball over most often are the ones that have the most to learn in letting their intellect override their instincts and correct the bad tendencies they have developed.

  • Dave Carnes

    You r obviously younger than me because you forgot Clyde the glide Drexler.After watching SMU for two years I would say this team lack something in B Ball IQ .Without Nic I don’t think they could go 500.Nic makes guys look great because he gets them the ball right where they need it.

  • IU diehard from CT


  • IU diehard from CT

    i should have clarified. i meant defensively as well. collectively as a unit they need to defend the 3 and the dribble drives better