2014-2015 Player Profile: Collin Hartman

  • 10/21/2014 9:10 am in

With the start of college basketball season on the horizon, we’re taking a long look at the conference at large as well as Indiana’s roster this month. Today, we continue our look at Indiana’s roster with Collin Hartman.

Collin Hartman’s freshman season at Indiana ended with a whimper rather than a bang.

Brought in by Indiana coach Tom Crean to be a shooter on a team that desperately needed them, Hartman played the first two games of the Hoosiers’ season as the first player off the bench. But after that, Hartman rarely saw action on the court, amassing just 16 minutes of play during the entire Big Ten season.

Perhaps he wasn’t aggressive enough in the opportunities he was given. But it was expected he would have the entire offseason to work on his game and gain more confidence on the court heading into his sophomore season.

That never happened.

Just two days after Indiana’s season ended, on March 15, Hartman tore his ACL in his right knee during a workout. At the time, Crean admitted Hartman’s summer will “take a different turn.” Instead of improving and challenging for immediate playing time heading into this season, he would have to rehabilitate.

As the summer progressed, Hartman slowly began to rejoin the team’s workouts — even traveling to Canada for the Hoosiers’ preseason tour. But Hartman did not play in Montreal, as his teammates got the early experience of playing together.

And on this year’s team, Hartman’s role will be challenged. The Hoosiers have several players who can shoot — including newcomers Nick Zeisloft, Max Hoetzel and Tim Priller — and they all will have a head start heading into this season.

Even as of last Monday, Hartman was still limited in practice. He did not participate in contact drills and by the end of the workout, he was wearing a heavy brace with ice on his right knee.

Bottom Line: Hartman needed this offseason to improve after a freshman season where he didn’t get much experience. But he suffered a major setback to that plan just days after the end of the season, tearing his right ACL during a workout in March. And Hartman still isn’t fully recovered from the injury, as this season begins to near. Hartman held a significant strength last season in his shooting ability, but this year’s team now has plenty of that. And so with his late start and increased competition, Hartman will have to earn his minutes this season on limited practice time.

Quotable: “They need to hear Collin’s voice. Collin needs to hear their voices. Collin needs to continue to grow mentally as well as physically with his game. So there’s pressure on him. There’s nobody guarding him; he needs to make 70 percent of his shots, and I’m right there getting after him if he’s not.” — Crean during a July 15 press conference 

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  • JerryCT

    I hope he sticks with it and can contribute in the future , I must admit to rather low optimism and smelling a transfer in the future

  • inLinE6

    It’s a sad story. I almost forgot he’s still on the roster. I’ll pulling for this guy, and hoping he can graduate early. So he gets the opportunity to decide where he goes next. Staying at IU is always an option, but transferring to a mid-major and finish his college career in the starting lineup will be awesome too.

  • Kyl470

    I think the smart move would be to red shirt him this year. I know that’s unlikely, but it would be best for Collin.

  • David Macer

    We all hold out the best for Indiana boys willing to take up the mantle of being a Hoosier. I hope and pray that Collin works through this injury and comes out the other side a better player and person.

  • Brad

    I feel really bad for Collin and hope his recovery goes well. But I also believe he’s a transfer candidate. The injury was a major setback for him and I think CTC and he will agree that moving on will be the best option for him. I hope I’m wrong because he really seems like a good kid.

  • Alford Bailey

    Don’t seem to use the red shirt anymore.

  • Alford Bailey

    I haven’t forgot about Colin but I just figured with his injury coming so late that he wouldn’t be back for this season. That seems to be the case. I agree he very well may be a transfer candidate.

  • Brad

    I think I pretty much echoed your comments but mine got taken down. Not sure why. But I agree with you. I hope he gets a chance to play out his career even if it’s not at IU.

  • Outoftheloop

    I hope that Collin gets a real chance to show us all what type of basketball player he is and can become for Indiana this season. Good luck Collin! I remember him at Cathedral being the leader, the best scoring option, the guy who grabbed the key rebounds, the best player on very good teams. I hope he succeeds!

  • Outoftheloop

    It is NOT appropriate for any of us to speculate on transfers at this point of the season! Let the season play out! I personally do not approve of these speculations even in April and May. These are “our” kids. Support them!

  • Brad

    Everything is speculation. We speculate on recruits, players, how our season will end up. That’s the fun in the debate. No one is saying we don’t want Collin to succeed at IU. But with his not playing much last year and the injury on top of it, combined with our scholarship situation, it might best for both if a transfer occurred. But let’s see what happens when Collin gets back out on the floor. I’m rooting for him.

  • HoosierGrampy

    While discussing some “unusual” and perhaps inexplicable substitution patterns TC resorted to last season, several other posters and I wondered why Collin didn’t get more minutes/opportunities to play since he was ostensibly recruited as a shooter/floor general type player. There were more than a couple replies which maintaining that CH was NOT a very good shooter, wasn’t “ready”, didn’t asset himself, etc. However, this article clearly states, “Brought in by Indiana coach Tom Crean to be a shooter on a team that desperately needed them…”, and yet less-talented players who are no longer roster players continued to get minutes instead of Collin. Does no good to rehash decisions which were or were not made last season. Just a couple comments going forward: 1) CH might have been able to impact the outcome of a few/lot of last year’s games, but it’s hard to light up a scoreboard when you’re sitting on the bench. 2) If you fail to use a player with a particular skill set, expect questions to be raised. 3) Try to learn something useful from the situation and perhaps avoid a repeat performance with another player. 4) I truly hope he stays and becomes the best player he can be. If that happens wearing stripes…great!

  • Ole Man

    The one thing that by “mutual, gentlemanly consent” we rarely speculate on is the name of a player who might transfer. 🙂

  • IUfanPurduePhD

    1) I want Collin to do well.
    2) I want Collin to graduate from IU.
    3) We are oversigned by a minimum of 2 players — which will probably end up being 3 or 4.
    4) We’ve had multiple transfers nearly every year, so it’s only natural that folks think and, heaven forbid, talk about such things.

  • IUfanPurduePhD

    I understand the reasoning behind it and I abide by it, but the more we oversign, the more it seems that it’s an issue that should be addressed (“who goes at the end of the season”).

  • AnonymousDave

    Can I upvote this a thousand times? Sometimes the kid just needs to see the ball go through the hoop a few times and we never allowed him to. The thing I loved watching in his limited time was even when he stayed in the same places he was never still. Always on his toes and anticipating movement. He didn’t run to the ball but kind of moved with it if ya get what I’m saying.

  • Outoftheloop

    You are a smart guy so I am sure that you are aware of my points: 1) Talk in a bar is different from a post on a major IU Basketball internet site; 2) What is the point of such posts on the internet? Does it benefit Collin-no, the team-no, the coaches-no, there is NO benefit to anyone; 3) If Collin were your kid, friend, family, etc. would you like seeing this sort of hurtful, trashy comment on the internet (no one can argue honestly that it does not hurt the kid)? The harmful personal nature of talking about individual players is what bothers me so much! Coach Crean’s strategy in over-signing is fair game.

  • IUfanPurduePhD

    I get it, and I refrained from saying anything about Collin except that I want him to do well and graduate from IU; my point was to argue that it’s fair to discuss these sorts of things. I know Alex and ITH want to keep things a certain way and I respect that (which is why I refrained from any specific discussion), but Crean has made this a topic of discussion by the simple fact that at least two students on the current roster will not be here next year.

    So if Collin were my kid, friend, family, etc., maybe my beef would be with Crean and not with some Purdue graduate who happens to post on an IU fan site.

  • Outoftheloop

    Hey, I can multi-task. I can have “a beef” with both you and Crean simultaneously, LOL. My beef with you is “technical”, you have used the words “discuss” and “talk” (which I have no issue with) but improperly apply those words to written content, naming individual player names, posted on a major Indiana Basketball website. My beef with Crean is more substantive, he is creating a climate of stress and confusion for his players and his team (and Indiana fans)! So let’s discuss Crean’s “oversign strategy”. We are aware of the “average” transfer number of about 2 per year. But you and I both know that “averages” do NOT apply to one specific case (the end of IU’s 2014-15 summer season). We both know of IU’s new guarantee of four full years for her athletic scholarships. We both know that unlike the last 2 years there is no “obvious” early NBA draft players on IU’s roster. So Crean is creating a needless “crisis” that does harm to his players and to his team right now. How can you demand total focus and commitment from these athletes when they can see less than a total commitment to some of them from their head coach? That is NOT a good leadership quality by the coach!

  • Ole Man

    I understand exactly what you’re saying because I share the same frustration with the oversigning.
    I don’t use the player’s name out of respect.

  • SCHoosier

    I think the problem was last year he was not shooting well in practice or in the games (I can remember at least 3 air balls). Nerves perhaps. Kid has to be able to score to play with th is group.

  • SCHoosier

    Which would tie up his schollie for one more full year. Not likely IMO.

  • Alford Bailey

    I tend to agree.

  • HoosierGrampy

    Cannot speak to how he shot in practice, but find it hard to believe he was worse than those to whom TC gave court time. Every shooter I can ever remember or name has struggled occasionally with finding the range and/or getting a feel for the game at hand. I also remember a couple that Stauskas air mailed to the fans but Beilein let him keep playing and shooting. While I’d like to share your optimism regarding the guards’ shooting skills, it remains to be seen how well and how often they’ll light up the big board in AH. A world of difference between HS and college opponents.

  • HoosierGrampy

    I wouldn’t mind seeing his picture pop up every time Johnny Cash sings, “I Got Stripes” for the next 3 years.

  • IUfanPurduePhD

    Do you realize that you look crazy since you’re talking to a series of deleted comments?

    I guess all we’re allowed to say is “it’ll work itself out” and “nothing is Crean’s fault.”

  • Ole Man

    LOL. Didn’t realize I was. Thanks for pointing that out.

  • hagster

    I agree David but I can’t see him playing this year. Crean needs to get in a 9 man rotation and let them play. Last yr all the helter skelter substitions were harmful.