Around the Hall: An early look at IU’s backcourt

  • 04/25/2014 11:34 am in

Around the Hall is recommended reading from the Inside the Hall staff.

· Jon Rothstein of CBSSports.com writes that Indiana’s guard play will be very good next season.

· Indiana is adding the top two shooters in the country to its roster next season according to Evan Daniels.

· Rick Bozich of WDRB.com calls Kenny Johnson a “five-star” hire for the University of Louisville. He also writes that Tom Crean must respond to Rick Pitino’s shrewd move.

· Tom Dienhart of BTN.com hands out his final grades for Big Ten teams last season.

· Cody Zeller checks in with another Rookie Diary for SI.com and discusses facing the Miami Heat in the NBA playoffs.

· Michigan sophomore center Mitch McGary is headed to the NBA draft after failing a drug test in the NCAA tournament.

· C.L. Brown of ESPN.com examines the Big Ten in the World Wide Leader’s “Look back, look ahead” series.

· Victor Oladipo recaps his rookie season with the Orlando Magic.

· ESPN NBA draft analyst Chad Ford believes Noah Vonleh is “the one guy that could jump into the top four.”

· UMHoops.com examines Michigan’s frontcourt next season, which is young following the losses of Jordan Morgan, Jon Horford and McGary.

(Photo credit: McDonald’s All-American game)

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  • Hoosier Hall

    Michigan may still be a decent team but I think they are in worse shape than us as far as their frontcourt goes. I have a feeling we will be back in the top 4 of the conference this year. Maybe just blind optimism though…

  • CreamandCrimson

    So, in the last two seasons we could end up having three guys drafted in the top five? That’s impressive (but also very sad because all we have to show for it is a Big Ten title, which is awesome, one tournament berth and a Sweet 16 appearance).

  • drewheck

    I think thats possible. Is it bad that I believe Nebraska could win the B1G this year?

  • Gregory Spera

    Does Crean’s ‘D’ count against the team’s GPA?

  • iuoiu

    Not at all. Based on the losses that most of the teams that finished ahead of them have suffered in the last few weeks they have more than a legit shot at it.

  • N71

    Our cupboard runneth over with regards to guards, what a group. Yogi, James, Stan, and Robert…wow. Troy, Devin, and Max at the wings is also strong. Hanner though needs some help. At this point we have Peter and Jeremiah, Peter is out as far as we know and Jeremiah is a couple years out probably from being able to hold down the paint versus a squad like Ohio State for example. We REALLY need a juco grinder that can run the court and throw some people around. I can see him now, wears a spiked dog collar, has a tat on his neck that says “I hate you”, and vacations in Detroit.

  • SCHoosier

    Alex- love these “Around the Hall” composites!! What a great interview with VO..same humble..gonna get better kid who entered the league a year ago .I predict right now that Vic will have a better career outside of b-ball that he will have in the game..he’s just that kind of individual. Senator Oladipo maybe?:)
    Somehow I missed the McGary story altogether. I’m probably the hardest nosed anti-drug use person you’ll find..but give a kid a one year suspension when he’s passed 8-10 drug tests? That’s ridiculous. The kid is an NBA talent..but a back surgery and a year’s layoff..requires that he proves his fitness to the teams.. He’ll get drafted..but it will cost him a ton of $$ upfront..I’m sure the NCAA will reimburse him for what he loses by having to enter the league early. A 5-10 game suspension ..ok ..but an entire year out is a worse crime than anything McGary did.

  • SCHoosier

    Love that last sentence:)!!!!

  • Nicholas Allen Cotner

    Time to run and gun

  • Gregory Spera

    The draconian NCAA again flexing it’s muscles at the expense of the kids it is supposed to be looking out for. SMH. Is there any wonder why the Northwestern Football players are, right now, voting on whether or not to unionize?

  • Bryce Kepner

    I think its good that they cracked down on him. Too many times these days athletes get a super star treatment. Like McGary said in the interview, there are consequences to ones actions, if it’s once or multiple time. Sucks that the ban was going to be so harsh but “rules is rules”.

  • Snookafly

    It would be one thing to say “rules is rules” if the NCAA showed any sort of consistency or logic in their rules. Right now it’s always an arbitrary enforcement of a nonsensical policy. A team will get crushed for some trivial violation, while another will be allowed to win a national title with no repercussions despite blatant cheating.

  • Snookafly

    I hope the NCAA gets broken up and scattered to the wind.

  • CreamandCrimson

    This comment has very little to do with IU basketball (except perhaps to remind us that we are playing at a seemingly different level than the one we aspire to reach again) but this is as good a place as any to put it….

    Duke and Kentucky are both going to have nine McDonald’s All-Americans on their rosters next season.

  • Hoosier Pride

    we might lead the country in scoring next year…we may also give up the most points in the paint. Positive note being we only have to score one more point than our opponents and we definitely have a shooters chance which is nice to say after last year.

  • Bryce Kepner

    No I definitely agree on that part. The NCAA is messed up and super inconsistent. I agree that the ban would’ve definitely have been over the line. But also athletes have to learn somehow that they can’t get away with whatever they want. I know its a whole different subject but if you look at any pro athlete, they get away with things everyday, and they have to realize that they aren’t invisible at some point.

  • Snookafly

    No kidding. I think they’ll only have 8 though if that’s any consolation–lol. It breaks down like: UK 4, Duke 4, UNC 3, KU 2(with a possible pick up of Turner). The really sad thing is, that’s just the INCOMING All Americans. If you count the returning players it starts to get really painful.

  • Gregory Spera

    All this teaches kids is that life is often unfair and to question authority. Two valuable lessons.

  • CreamandCrimson

    I was counting the returning players. Duke is going to have nine on their roster (incoming All-Americans plus returning All-Americans). Kentucky is going to have nine on their roster (incoming plus returning).

  • Snookafly

    Wow. My mistake– that is something to think about. I guess that mean the Harrison’s are staying.

  • CreamandCrimson

    No problem, I saw the tweet on ITH’s feed and had to double-check it myself.

    Indeed they are (according to all reports)…don’t think too long about it, it’s not exactly uplifting!

  • Snookafly

    I just saw a USAtoday article saying the Mildcats might be the tallest team of all time– 7 players over 6’8″ (5 AAs) and 3 seven-footers. Sounds like a matchup nightmare.

  • Snookafly

    Don’t forget the NCAA won’t punish a team that wins it all. That also teaches kids that winners write the history books, and if your going to cheat the system, go big or go home.

  • Bryce Kepner

    And if you become a famous athlete you can do whatever you want with little to no consequences.

  • Gregory Spera

    Wait. Now I’m confused. Going back to the original point of the article, I thought McGary’s one year suspension showed just the OPPOSITE of that. Or are you referencing some other situation?

  • Snookafly

    If they can keep it together and somehow get past Wisconsin they have a real shot.

  • Snookafly

    Honestly, looking at all the losses around the league and factoring our expected level of improvement, I don’t think it’s an unreasonable level of optimism. I said it before– this is coach’s big shot to show he is a top 10 coach (he’s already paid as one). All the big dogs– except Wisconsin are losing a ton this year and will have to rely on young talent. Our talent is a year older which should give us a leg up. Let’s see what happens.

  • Miamihoosier

    We all know if given the choice, you’d take a strong back court over front court….I think it’s a little lnsulting for Jon Rothstein to say ours can “compete with any in the league” that’s silly, ours is the best in the league, and can “compete” with any in the country….I think we are going to be better than anyone expects….this is starting to feel like the 11-12 season

  • Outoftheloop

    That means that each will have 2-3 very disgruntled prim-a-donas on the bench hearing from their advisers how their respective colleges are hurting their NBA prospects!

  • Outoftheloop

    The incoming freshmen will be stunned when the two Harrisons, Poythress, Jefferson and Lee start every game (assuming Cauley-Stein and Young join Randall in the draft). It is hard to show the NBA how great you are on 5-10 min/game. Just ask Lee!

  • Outoftheloop

    You missed the most important “lesson”: get paid in cash and know how to hide it!

  • Outoftheloop

    You follow this site. There are no JUCO Grinders! OH St is not so tough in the paint: Lee is average, Amir Thompson is a disappointment, who else do they have? WI is formidable!

  • Outoftheloop

    Especially when Max soundly out-gunned number 2!

  • Outoftheloop

    They looked really bad in their last game!

  • CreanFaithful

    Not to mention that the twins are big guards…

  • Bryce Kepner

    Cauley-Stein was the first to announce that he was coming back to school and Young declared a week or two ago that he was entering.

  • Alford Bailey

    Good point but if you don’t have the All-Americans you better have a damn good coach.

  • Alford Bailey

    Gonna be kinda funny to see Lyles sitting on the bench when he coulda been playing 30 minutes a game at IU.

  • drewheck

    9 A piece on both teams

  • and pj hairston just got a slap on the wrist by NCAA before being kicked off team by UNC. I don’t like Michigan or drug use by student athletes but they got hosed. I’d have no problem with the ruling if they can write the rule and set it in stone so that it can apply to 100% of the student athletes

  • 2 best shooters in the nation? I think he forgot we got another 6’9″ kid who can light it up too. he did win the 3 pt contest in Louisville…

  • PacoTaco

    I’m just concerned that we don’t have a Cody Zeller. One solid, ready-to-compete big man would absolutely get me pumped for a 2011-2012 repeat.

  • The_Bob_Michaels

    But papa Lyles will be grinning with whatever he got out of the deal.

  • Bryce Kepner

    Hearing reports that we got another 2014 commit from Texas big man Tim Priller

  • Brian Goodman

    amir williams, and yeah he’s softer than a Kleenex