Oladipo, Zeller mum on NBA futures

  • 03/29/2013 1:54 am in

IUSyrITH0007WASHINGTON — An earlier than expected exit from the 2013 NCAA Tournament quickly brought questions about the futures of Cody Zeller and Victor Oladipo, both of whom are projected as lottery picks in this June’s NBA Draft.

But in the immediate aftermath of IU’s disappointing 61-50 loss to Syracuse, neither player was prepared to talk about what will come next.

“I have no clue. I don’t know how it goes, I don’t know what happens from here,” Zeller told reporters. “I was putting everything into this team, this tournament. I haven’t thought about it at all.”

“I haven’t even been thinking about that,” Oladipo said of his future. “I’m just really disappointed about the loss because we wanted to go all the way. I haven’t really been thinking about my future at all, just been in the present.”

Both players will have roughly a month to decide whether they’ll return to school as the NBA’s early entry deadline for the draft is Apr. 28.

Indiana coach Tom Crean was asked about the role he’ll play in assisting both Oladipo and Zeller with their respective decisions in his postgame press conference.

“I’m sure I will do what I would always do, try to be a voice of reson, do the right research, try to give them as honest of an assessment as I possibly can,” Crean said. “It won’t come from dotcoms and scouts, it will come from general managers, scouting directors, people like that that really have an investment in what those picks mean and where they would potentially go.

“Just like we’ve done last year, and try to give them the best advice they could possibly have, be supportive of them and their families through the entire process and treat them with love and care like we always have.”

Oladipo, who finished with 16 points, is currently ranked No. 6 on Chad Ford’s top 100 on ESPN.com and has been talked about as a potential top three pick.

Zeller checks-in at No. 8 on Ford’s rankings, but shot just 3-of-11 from the field on Thursday on his way to 10 points and 10 rebounds.

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  • LiveIUBBall

    I can’t imagine Cody or Vic being pushed out by scholarship # issues. I wouldn’t trade either of them for any recruit, and I doubt Crean would either. It would be a lesser player or recruit that would get the short end of that stick. Definitely an issue, but one I would love to have.

  • Ryno88

    Lots of scenarios are possible, but probably only Zeller will consider returning. 3 Seniors, a graduate in Mo Creek who saw little playing time could transfer and not sit out a year, that’s 4, Vic goes, 5, What are the latest health reports on Peter Jurkin?? Appears to me there is a very distinct possibility that he may not be able to play, that’s 6 with Zeller returning. One thing Cody has that others don’t heading into this draft is a brother who will have just completed his rookie season, Tyler will no if Cody is ready. Also, the NBA is a job maybe the kid just wants to have some more fun. We’ll see soon enough.

  • matt

    Victor is set to graduate this year. So he is probably gone. Zeller is the most gifted of the three brothers. I give him 50/50. But he does come from a family that preaches staying in school. It would be in their best interest for them both to stay. Get stronger, make their NBA stock improve. But let’s face it. This was the best chance for the Phoenix type season.

  • big ditto. CZ was the catalyst in getting current and future recruits to sign with the Hoosiers. keep in mind that CZ is just a big kid who has some things to work on to become a better player. from what i’ve read, he’s already a standup person with a great attitude and work ethic.

  • big ditto. CZ was the catalyst in getting current and future recruits to sign with the Hoosiers. keep in mind that CZ is just a big kid who has some things to work on to become a better player. from what i’ve read, he’s already a standup person with a great attitude and work ethic.

  • CZ could have done more to help win, but their backcourt outscored ours 38-0.
    dont lay this loss all on CZ, there are plenty of reasons why they loss, but him not “being as good as everyone says” doesn’t cut it.

  • WhatsUpKnight

    and let’s not forget the fact that most players in his position wouldn’t have even come back after their freshman season.

  • DMJ

    Both should stay! Neither one is ready to be a starter in the league yet, so why should Vic leave(needs to take over games) Cody(needs too be tougher in the paint)- stay

  • Victor is ready and should go but Cody could no get a shot off against Syracuse in the paint how would he do against Kevin Garnett. he needs a low post move or two and he needs to learn how to pump fake. my god he was terrible last night he should return.

  • ATL_HoosierFan

    Yeah that was kind of my point. I can’t imagine Crean would have signed 6 without first knowing that Zeller and Oladipo would be going pro. One over the limit is a lot easier to work out than three.

  • jaypay23

    Out played their talent levels? We got two NBA lottery picks!

  • jaypay23

    I am concerned with the way Tom Crean has developed these players Cody looks like he has deminished and is forcing up shots and Hanner a former bluechip recruit looks like a bench warmer. I think IU could get a better coach or Tom Crean needs to teach better shot selection and how to attack a defense in a halfcourt set. I don’t know if this team works on passing but I’ve never seen a team pass into double teams so much. They looked like a elementary kids out there and looked passive.

  • CreanFaithful

    LOL. Concerned with player development? What team have you been watching? In one word, SHELADIPO.

  • I hope they both stay to finish what they started, but if they go, all Hoosier fans should wish them the best of everything!

  • I hope they both stay to finish what they started, but if they go, all Hoosier fans should wish them the best of everything!

  • ATL_HoosierFan

    Yeah you could be right. We’ll see how it plays out. Zeller could use another year.

  • SinkorSwim

    Sadly, I do not think Cody is going anywhere. He had such promise before the season started, but as shown last night he just needs work learning how to handle a true big man. While we all know he says all the right things, he just doesnt have the physical body to compete with the top tier centers at this level. I never thought I would say, but we still have a lot of work to do to get back to the top.

  • Ask Buss….

  • But the NBA teams must have some interest in developing players there? Why else would the league exist? I doubt it brings in more revenue that it costs. What kind of coaches do those teams have, are they paid well? I still can’t understand how you would advance faster in the NCAA where you got to go to class, you play around 15 opponents who are not competitive, you cannot be coached all summer, …

  • Hoo Hoo Hound dog

    Do you guys realize that this team won 29 games and a B1G championship with only 1 guy in the post? How did that happen? Cody was nowhere near what I expected from him this year but he had 0 help in the post. When I thought this team had a shot at a championship in the pre season that was with Hanner and Jurkin giving some help down low. I dont ever remember him getting in foul trouble.How did that happen? I still think he needs to go pro though. Let a good big man coach work with him. I cant wait to see Fischer and Vonleah in the post next year. There will be a learning curve but I gotta think both will have better post moves than Cody has currently. I wish Cody luck but have to admit he was a disappointment several times this season. By the way VO had worked hard and improved greatly and deserves to go to the NBA now.

  • Hoo Hoo Hound dog

    Do you guys realize that this team won 29 games and a B1G championship with only 1 guy in the post? How did that happen? Cody was nowhere near what I expected from him this year but he had 0 help in the post. When I thought this team had a shot at a championship in the pre season that was with Hanner and Jurkin giving some help down low. I dont ever remember him getting in foul trouble.How did that happen? I still think he needs to go pro though. Let a good big man coach work with him. I cant wait to see Fischer and Vonleah in the post next year. There will be a learning curve but I gotta think both will have better post moves than Cody has currently. I wish Cody luck but have to admit he was a disappointment several times this season. By the way VO had worked hard and improved greatly and deserves to go to the NBA now.

  • Who who whoosiers?

    Both are garbage. See ya in Euro League boys.

  • Who who whoosiers?

    Both are garbage. See ya in Euro League boys.

  • I think it’s a mistake if Cody signs this year and I don’t care if he’s a top 10 pick or not. Cody is simply not ready yet. He needs to play big because he is big and he is very talented! However, I think if Cody Zeller signs this year he is going to be disappointed in the amount of playing time he will have in his immediate future in the NBA. If he sticks around another year at least, his stock will go up much higher given that he learns how to play big! Additionally, he just might be the key to Indiana landing a sixth banner and that is an accomplishment he will cherish forever! I think the skill and improvement that he will show by staying in the NCAA will not only increase his stock, but it will be a much smoother immediate transition to playing time in the NBA! No one likes to sit the bench at any level especially when you have been accustomed to being a star at your previous level of competition! Zeller needs to stay!

    Oladipo has a tougher decision. Victor is not just a great talent; he is an immense talent! His ability to improve as both a basketball player and athlete is off the hook! I would like to see him stick around just to improve on his perimeter game and his ability to go one on one with the ball and be even a greater impact offenseive player. I think if VO does that, he could be the first player chose next year and his role as a player in the NBA, although already solidified in my opinion, will be at a level of stardom and economic status will rival some of the best contracts and player production in the NBA. His skill set is already of a unique nature, but the make the really big bucks in the NBA you gotta score big! Given his progress so far, I could see Victor learning that next year at Indiana while playing not sitting

  • I think it’s a mistake if Cody signs this year and I don’t care if he’s a top 10 pick or not. Cody is simply not ready yet. He needs to play big because he is big and he is very talented! However, I think if Cody Zeller signs this year he is going to be disappointed in the amount of playing time he will have in his immediate future in the NBA. If he sticks around another year at least, his stock will go up much higher given that he learns how to play big! Additionally, he just might be the key to Indiana landing a sixth banner and that is an accomplishment he will cherish forever! I think the skill and improvement that he will show by staying in the NCAA will not only increase his stock, but it will be a much smoother immediate transition to playing time in the NBA! No one likes to sit the bench at any level especially when you have been accustomed to being a star at your previous level of competition! Zeller needs to stay!

    Oladipo has a tougher decision. Victor is not just a great talent; he is an immense talent! His ability to improve as both a basketball player and athlete is off the hook! I would like to see him stick around just to improve on his perimeter game and his ability to go one on one with the ball and be even a greater impact offenseive player. I think if VO does that, he could be the first player chose next year and his role as a player in the NBA, although already solidified in my opinion, will be at a level of stardom and economic status will rival some of the best contracts and player production in the NBA. His skill set is already of a unique nature, but the make the really big bucks in the NBA you gotta score big! Given his progress so far, I could see Victor learning that next year at Indiana while playing not sitting

  • I think it’s a mistake if Cody signs this year and I don’t care if he’s a top 10 pick or not. Cody is simply not ready yet. He needs to play big because he is big and he is very talented! However, I think if Cody Zeller signs this year he is going to be disappointed in the amount of playing time he will have in his immediate future in the NBA. If he sticks around another year at least, his stock will go up much higher given that he learns how to play big! Additionally, he just might be the key to Indiana landing a sixth banner and that is an accomplishment he will cherish forever! I think the skill and improvement that he will show by staying in the NCAA will not only increase his stock, but it will be a much smoother immediate transition to playing time in the NBA! No one likes to sit the bench at any level especially when you have been accustomed to being a star at your previous level of competition! Zeller needs to stay!

    Oladipo has a tougher decision. Victor is not just a great talent; he is an immense talent! His ability to improve as both a basketball player and athlete is off the hook! I would like to see him stick around just to improve on his perimeter game and his ability to go one on one with the ball and be even a greater impact offenseive player. I think if VO does that, he could be the first player chose next year and his role as a player in the NBA, although already solidified in my opinion, will be at a level of stardom and economic status will rival some of the best contracts and player production in the NBA. His skill set is already of a unique nature, but the make the really big bucks in the NBA you gotta score big! Given his progress so far, I could see Victor learning that next year at Indiana while playing not sitting for more minutes than he’d like. That could happen for a while in the NBA! When he puts that final piece in play, there is no limit to what he can do or his value in the NBA so if that means a national banner while going through the process… It wouldn’t suck!

  • Neil

    The problem with this team was not CZ although I do agree he has not improved much (Crean’s fault IMO) it was their inability to have someone who could get that bucket when they needed some momentum. NOBODY can create their own shot. VIC is the closest but 50% of the time when he tries he turns the ball over. I love Hulls but he is a major liability. All he can do is shoot the 3 if he is wide open. He can’r dribble penetrate and dish or score, he is too slow and too small. He can’t play defense because he is too small and slow. He can only shoot the 3. Yogi has the same problem except he can dribble penetrate and pass but cannot finish unless it is a lesser team. Yogi is also missing an outside shot. IU gave up 10 inches in their guards and were outscored 38-0. That’s the game. Basically IU had two guys who could not score, turned the ball over and could not play defense and Crean played them the ENTIRE game!!!! I know you go with that got you there but it was clearly a mismatch all the way around. At one point I saw Hulls guarding 6’8″ Southerland….really Crean????? UF pulled their best player last night because he did not match up well against FGCU. If you have small undersized guards you have to be aware of the match ups CZ needs to learn how to play with his back to the basket. Brother Tyler had a hook shot why not Cody? I don’t necessarily agree CZ should be taking 15 foot jump shots. Sometimes that is ok but if he misses there is nobody to rebound.

    Ok I am not bashing any of these players or Crean. Crean is a great recruiter and a great motivator of his kids. he really gets them to play hard all the time. the problem he has is developing players (CZ) and X’s and O’s. How to attack a zone, how to look at matchups and make in game adjustments. The hardest play to defend at any level is the pick and roll ball screen. Why doesn’t IU run this? Instead we get the weave. I hate the weave and if you don’t have more talented players it won’t work. Watch OSU or Michigan they run balls screens all the time. CZ is a good player but he needs to learn the post game and play better defense. he is good at driving and getting fouls and running the court. he also has a good shot. Yogi needs to learn how to finish at the rim and become a better outside shooter. Hulls better have his degree because his only basketball career will be overseas. VIC needs to learn to play one on one because in the NBA they will expect you to take someone one on one at times and VIC hasn’t showed me he can do this without turning the ball over 50% of the time. I think this team had a good year and over achieved and was only exposed once teams learned they could slow the game down get physical and win that way. I think it was a good year overall and I wish all the players moving on the best.

  • Beard

    Incredible season, B1G championship outright and ya an earlier than expected exit from the tourney, but we should all be praising these guys because they are class acts and IU is back in the top tier of programs in the country. 3 seniors and Vic are definitely gone, I would speculate. Creek and Jurkin are possibly gone, so that is 6 out and 6 freshmen coming in. Zeller could possibly go, but he still seems like he is loving college, being a big kid and I’m sure he sees the position Tyler is in, so he may not be as eager to go pro yet. One more year with Zeller would give him time to mature as a player and man, not to mention help Perea and Fischer coming in too.

  • Beard

    Incredible season, B1G championship outright and ya an earlier than expected exit from the tourney, but we should all be praising these guys because they are class acts and IU is back in the top tier of programs in the country. 3 seniors and Vic are definitely gone, I would speculate. Creek and Jurkin are possibly gone, so that is 6 out and 6 freshmen coming in. Zeller could possibly go, but he still seems like he is loving college, being a big kid and I’m sure he sees the position Tyler is in, so he may not be as eager to go pro yet. One more year with Zeller would give him time to mature as a player and man, not to mention help Perea and Fischer coming in too.

  • Neil

    Medical scholarships can be offered. If Creek and PJ don’t want to transfer IU can still offer medical scholarships. They can’t play but their education is still paid. In many occasions this will make the player want to transfer. But with that we only open up 2 additional with 3 seniors that is 5 and we have 6 coming in. We would need one of Vic or CZ to leave or another person to transfer if both CZ and Vic return. My gut says CZ returns, Vic goes to the NBA (as he should), and Creek, AE, and/or Jurkin (or another player) transfer or take a medical scholarship. Next year we won’t need Jurkin if we have CZ and the three bigs coming in. Add in HP and Hollowell and we would have 6 bigs in the rotation. Jurkin will never see the floor. I think there is a reason he only play 7 minutes all year.

  • Ole Man

    Coaching.

  • Ole Man

    IF the NBA doesn’t develop players, why is Noel so high on the charts?

  • There was an article in the Indy Star yesterday with all the NBA scouts and GMs that were quoted saying Cody is in no way ready for the League. If Zeller listens to those opinions, then Indiana should have a killer front court next year. (Yes, I’m already thinking about next year.) It will be up to Crean to manage the scholarship train wreck.

  • Jeremy

    As do I. Unfortunately, while statistics may not tell the whole story, they don’t lie. Cody improved in the following ways: Getting to the free throw line, converting those free throws, and rebounding. Every other “stat-able” facet of his game either stagnated or diminished in some way. It’s sad, really.

  • b_side

    You’re missing the point of the D-League. It’s not about developing them into “stars.” It’s about developing the 11th-12th man into competent role players when their number is called.

    Very few players are “stars” to begin with. The D-League is perfect for guys like Hasheem Thabeet (former top 3 pick who was too raw offensively to make an impact early) to Orlando Johnson (Pacers 2nd-round pick) who may not have been NBA-ready out of the gate, but just needed a little playing time with the Ft. Wayne Mad Ants to better understand the speed and nuances of the game.

  • John

    Both of them will fail if they go out now. Particularly Zeller. And if Oladipo is player of the year all the really good players are already in the NBA.

  • John

    Both of them will fail if they go out now. Particularly Zeller. And if Oladipo is player of the year all the really good players are already in the NBA.

  • If both Zeller AND Oladipo comes back, what happens to Mo Creek (I’m sure he’ll be asked to leave), Austin Etherington (hard to ask him to leave after blowing out his knee) and some others on scholarship?

  • jay r williams,sr

    i’ve read most of the comments ,,, and think that every one is missing the point if their commitments were insited on in the first place ,there would be no problems , staying would be automatic until their scholarships we completed,,,,

  • Despite being a Michigan fan, I still loved this team all season and I was extremely disappointed in their postseason performance. That said, Cody Zeller SHOULD STAY if for no other reason, he looked totally overmatched against Syracuse’s bigs. And if he looks like that against the Orange, he’s not relating to the NBA right now. Victor Oladipo is tough to see staying. The way he’s been hyped this season, he might not have a better chance to go than right now. And he may be a better pro than a collegian, given his game.

  • Michael87: I know how you feel. Michigan was a tip away from a first-place tie in the Big Ten — and ended up a fifth-seed in the conference tournament and a fourth-seed in the NCAAs. The Detroit papers wrote as if they had died … and now they are in the Final Four! No one should belittle any of the top Big Ten teams this year. It was a war every night, literally a blood lust. Indy, MSU, OSU, Michigan — heck, even Wisconsin — were all tops in my book. And, by the way, anyone ragging on Cody Zeller should bag it. No one works harder than that guy.

  • Michael87: I know how you feel. Michigan was a tip away from a first-place tie in the Big Ten — and ended up a fifth-seed in the conference tournament and a fourth-seed in the NCAAs. The Detroit papers wrote as if they had died … and now they are in the Final Four! No one should belittle any of the top Big Ten teams this year. It was a war every night, literally a blood lust. Indy, MSU, OSU, Michigan — heck, even Wisconsin — were all tops in my book. And, by the way, anyone ragging on Cody Zeller should bag it. No one works harder than that guy.

  • Victor needs to go pro. Make the most of this opportunity. Zeller would benefit much more than Vic when it comes to terms of coming back