Recruit Roundup: Troy Williams posts triple-double

TroyWThroughout the season, Inside the Hall will keep you posted on how IU’s six 2013 signees and James Blackmon Jr. are performing at their respective schools. 

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2013 SIGNEES

· Collin Hartman (Indianapolis Cathedral): Ten points in a 66-39 win at Center Grove on Feb. 21. Cathedral finished regular season with 13 straight wins and will play Lawrence North in the Warren Central sectional on Tuesday.

· Devin Davis Jr. (Warren Central): Did not play. Warren Central finished regular season 11-8 and will host Lawrence Central in sectionals on Tuesday.

· Luke Fischer (Germantown, WI): Twenty-five points in a 90-22 win over Waukesha South on Feb. 21 in the WIAA regional. Twenty points in a 70-44 win over Homestead on Feb. 22 in the WIAA regional. Germantown will play Arrowhead on Feb. 28 in WIAA sectional play.

· Noah Vonleh (New Hampton Prep, NH): Thirteen points in a 63-62 loss to Worcester Academy on Feb. 22 and 13 points and 14 rebounds in a 60-55 win over the Tilton School on Feb. 23.

· Stanford Robinson (Findlay Prep, NV): Sixteen points, nine rebounds and four assists in a 92-79 win over Westwind (Ariz.) on Feb. 21. Fifteen points, eight rebounds and two blocks in a 79-70 win over Westwind postgrad (Ariz.) on Feb. 22. Nine points, four rebounds in an 84-68 win over Future College Prep (Ca.) on Feb. 23. Findlay Prep is now 32-0 this season.

· Troy Williams (Oak Hill Academy, VA): Twenty-two points, 14 rebounds and 10 assists in a 93-58 win over Quality Education Academy on Feb. 19. Sixteen points and 10 assists in a 110-47 win over St. Ignacious Prep on Feb. 21. Eight points, five assists and five blocks in an 81-54 win over Covenant Christian (Ga.) on Feb. 22. Oak Hill is 31-5.

2014 COMMITMENT

· James Blackmon Jr. (Ft. Wayne Luers): Thirty-three points in an 89-72 win at Ft. Wayne South on Feb. 20. Bishop Luers finished the regular season 13-6 and will play the winner of Adams Central and Churubusco on Friday in the South Adams sectional.

  • WhatsUpKnight

    gonna be interesting to see how far this group can go next year, lots of potential to go along with will and some talented sophs. i think finishing the season somewhere in the top 20 would be a huge success, but maybe i’m underestimating?

  • http://www.facebook.com/blair.mckee Blair McKee

    Where do you PUT all these guys?

  • HoosierPat

    Good to see Robinson put up some big numbers. Those are Oladipo-type stats. He can have a big impact if he can be a good defender from the get go.

  • SCHoosier

    It will be an interesting situation where I think Kids will play their way into and out of the starting line up. Of course we will hear the annual “we really have 10 starters”..but in fact..we really don’t. Competition should be great for minutes. If ever IU needed a decent cupcake schedule…it will be next year…to give these kids a little chemistry development time. The rule change that enables coaches to work with recruits during the summer should be invaluable.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dmcdonal Dee McDonald

    I think the culture of hard work and spending the summer working out 3-4 times per day that has been developed by hulls, oladipo, etc…is going to be the make or break. If that culture continues, there could be guys take leaps and bounds improvements through the summer. If it doesn’t when some of the upper-class guys leave and freshman/sophs don’t buy in, it could be much more interesting/ugly. I think part of the recruitment strategy is getting winners, hard-workers, and high ceiling guys, so hopefully they come in with a chip on their shoulders like hulls, oladipo, and sheehey all have. That’s my 2cents.

  • http://twitter.com/IUinNap Caleb Moore

    I’ve been thinking about if/how much of the “365 Days a Year” attitude will permeate itself down to the younger guys coming in. I think def next year Will and Yogi will bring that and expect everyone else to as well. Hollowell, for his laid back personality, is a big worker according to Crean as well. Specifically Vonleh will really need to work on his offensive skill if he thinks he’s jumping after one year. The thing I really like about this class is that it’s full of guys that do a lot of things really well. Offense may be the least of their abilities, which bodes well for the future because you can always learn to shoot. They’ve got some nice intangibles.

  • Mop Lady

    Although I’m excited for next years class, just a shout-out to my fellow Hoosier Nationals: “The Movement” has been mediocre at best. Yogi could go pro if we win the championship (Yogi > M. Teague). But the others have a lot of work to do to keep us at the top in the future. Hollowell is improving, but has a long way to go. The suspensions didn’t help HMP or Jurkin, but I doubt they’d be Big Ten-ready even if they didn’t. No disrespect to them–and I’m excited for their future–but they were highly touted and now barely play (outside of Yogi). I won’t be as naive with future classes after this year’s frosh class.

    It will be interesting to see what next year’s starting line-up will be (especially if CZ, VO, and Yogi leave early). Sheehey is the only lock that I can think of. The impressive development skills of CTC’s coaching staff will have their work cut out for them after this year.

    Having said that, I love NOVO’s potential! I think Luke Fischer will eventually be a solid replacement for CZ. DD has VO-like aggressiveness. TW could possibly step in as a stater. Haven’t seen much on CH or SR.

    Enjoy this season while lasts–it’s a special year and OUR YEAR!!!

    #6

  • WhatsUpKnight

    we thought that would be a problem this year as well, but ended up with a fairly small rotation once the competition picked up. will just have to wait and see if a subset of the overall talent once again separates themselves from the rest. maybe not though. maybe multiple players in the ’13 class step up right away.

  • WhatsUpKnight

    we thought that would be a problem this year as well, but ended up with a fairly small rotation once the competition picked up. will just have to wait and see if a subset of the overall talent once again separates themselves from the rest. maybe not though. maybe multiple players in the ’13 class step up right away.

  • twarrior87

    Is anyone serious about Yogi leaving early? He’s playing very weil, but not one and done well. Yogi lacks size and is going to have to make up for that significantly in other areas to make it to the league. His shot has come around pretty well, but still needs work and he still has a tendency to throw some errant passes that get turned over.
    I’m not ragging on him, he is playing very well for a freshman and is integral to this team. Its been great fun watching him grow right in front of our eyes this season. I just don’t see how you can think he is going to leave for the draft after this year.

  • twarrior87

    Can you imagine what Hanner will be like his Junior year if he has Oladipo type work ethic. The guy is a flat out athlete.

  • http://twitter.com/IUinNap Caleb Moore

    Unless Yogi’s shot starts looking a lot better and he has a huge NCAA tournament and really shows him improvement he’s not ready to go pro. He’s still a little out of control at times and his shot is not close to NBA caliber from a PG. He may still be first round material, but I think that kid sees himself as more than a late round 1 pick. He will be back. I’m not so sold on the idea that Zeller is gone either. I still think about 60% gone, but i’m starting to back off on that thinking a little. Vic is 100% gone and he should go now. His stock will never be higher. I think Cody still has a lot of game to stay and work on if he wanted to. Plus he would graduate next year.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gregory.spera.3 Gregory Spera

    OK, these Germantown scores are getting ridiculous. 90-22!?! Really? I mean c’mon, what gives? Should I just assume that Fischer is the second coming of Bill Walton?

  • ScoopGeoff

    After seeing Vonleh play, meeting him, and talking to his prep coaches, I highly doubt he is motivated to be a one and done guy.

    He’s young for his class and just a very reserved, humble kid. His coaches have told me how involved his mother is and how important academics are to her.

    I’m regurgitating informed opinions that believe he won’t go pro after 1 year, even if he is a projected lottery pick (top 3 would change that).

  • ScoopGeoff

    Yogi isn’t going anywhere…

  • TorontoHoosierFan

    Anyone know how many ppg Vonley is averaging this year? I’m thinking a top 10 prospect should be putting up bigger numbers than what we’ve been seeing.

  • notfargj

    is anyone else concerned about vonleh’s numbers this year?

  • notfargj

    is anyone else concerned about vonleh’s numbers this year?

  • http://www.facebook.com/brad.norrington Brad Norrington

    Im going to chalk it up to better competition and maybe the fact that they aren’t blowing out teams 90-22 means that there isn’t a whole lot of scoring. Vonleh’s status as a top 10 recruit is predicated a lot on his size, athletic ability, and potential. He is a work in progress that possess natural size and ability, he just needs to hone it in a bit more to be elite.

  • BluegrassHoosier

    Agree with that. Happy if we can be top 20 next year. The class isn’t nearly as
    regarded as “The Movement” and we have all seen how that turned out. To
    be a top 5 team next year we’ll need CZ and/or VO to stay, which
    obviously is a long shot. Can’t see any way VO doesn’t leave. He runs
    the risk that his draft stock goes down next year given his rise this
    year and the relatively weak 2013 draft. Yogi will be back. Bet your mop on that one.

  • Mop Lady

    M. Teague is *maybe* 6’2″; Yogi is nearly 6′. Not much size difference, and I’d take Yogi over Teague IN A HEARTBEAT. Teague got drafted in the first round after winning the tournament (doubt he’d been drafted in the first round without doing so). I think Yogi *could* be drafted in the first round if we win it this year. His composure is phenomenal, and his quickness and vision are top-shelf. His jumper is better than Teague’s. I’d say Teague only had one attribute better than Yogi and that is height. Other than that, Yogi is a great game manager who will only get better.

    Could he benefit from more college coaching? Of course–who wouldn’t? But if you have a chance at guaranteed millions, you’re nearly crazy to turn it down–always one play away from significant injury (i.e. Nerlens Noel).

    If we run the tables, I bet he’s got a shot at 1st round draft status. At the least, comparatively speaking.

  • SCHoosier

    “The hands..the hands..gotta catch 1,000 passes a day during the summer.

  • Mop Lady

    NO

  • SCHoosier

    Love the kid..but, IMO.. he’ll be staying for his Soph year at IU..then his JR year..then his senior year..by that time he should be terror bear not a Yogi bear..(assuming his shot comes around)..and one of the very few below 6ft stars in the NBA.

  • ScoopGeoff

    Most of the top 10 recruits aren’t playing against the level of comp that Vonleh is every single game. Not only is he matching up against D1 signees every game, but teams with multiple front line options, plenty of size, and players that are often doing a post grad year, so they are 1-3 years older.

    He can score in lots of ways, but is inherently unselfish. Think Cody Zeller when you think of demeanor and impact. Even when he isn’t putting up big scoring nights he will impact the game in several positive ways.

  • ScoopGeoff

    What do you mean this class isn’t “nearly as regarded as ‘The Movement'”?

    This recruiting class is ranked higher… I think you are mistaking “regard” for “notoriety”. The Movement was famous because it was symbolic of IU’s return to prominence and its ability to seal up the borders and get the top kids in the state.

    But as far as talent goes 2012 class had 0 top 10 recruits, 3 top 100 recruits and was ranked as the 11th best class by ESPN. The 2013 class has 1 top 10 guy, 4 top 100 guys and ranks as the 4th best class by ESPN.

    So I’m not sure why you’d think that not as much will be expected… I’m expecting more from next year’s class, both in their freshman year and beyond.

  • iumick22

    Fischer has moved to number 67 on ESPN 100.

  • iumick22

    Fischer has moved to number 67 on ESPN 100.

  • ScoopGeoff

    Size is kinda a big deal at the next level.

    Show me a comparably sized player in the NBA and I’ll show you a resume that has ridiculous numbers, all-American type impact for their team, and 3 or 4 years of college…. Or a guy who hasn’t done much in the league.

    Please find me a single starting NBA PG under 6′ tall. Nate Robinson is a fill in, but he is also maybe the most ridiculous athlete in the NBA and a former dunk champ. Kyle Lowry is 6′, but was drafted late in the first round after his soph year, has been traded twice and is a fringe starter. Jameer Nelson is about the same size as Yogi, but he was a first team all-American, won the Wooden and Naismith awards, and stayed all 4 years, even after being the unanimous National Freshman of the Year.

    Bottom line, you just don’t see guys Yogi’s size go after their freshman year. The pro scouts will want to see more of him and see how he develops leadership skills before taking him in the first round.

  • Southport65

    Did you notice that Troy had a triple double? I think he is the real deal and VO will be raw but very good. We will have a good team next year. Not like this one unless CZ or VO stay then we could be a great team again.

  • Andrew

    I’m thinking someone who doesn’t like the numbers should know how to spell the player’s name.

  • HoosierTrav

    He’s elite already. We aren’t factoring in style of play, competition or games where he’s had foul trouble. I just keep going back to that Adidas Nations camp that he completely dominated. I watch these prep school games and and they remind me so much of AAU ball. Lots of perimeter play. He will be an absolute stud from day one.

  • HoosierTrav

    He’s elite already. We aren’t factoring in style of play, competition or games where he’s had foul trouble. I just keep going back to that Adidas Nations camp that he completely dominated. I watch these prep school games and and they remind me so much of AAU ball. Lots of perimeter play. He will be an absolute stud from day one.

  • http://www.facebook.com/brad.norrington Brad Norrington

    I think Troy Will is going to be a better player and contribute more at the beginning. Vonleh will probably surpass him as the key player, but I think right away Troy will contribute more.

  • marcusgresham

    The key there will be Will Sheehey. He’s going to have to be the driving force. The bad news is he’ll be the only senior; the good news is that he goes harder than anyone and isn’t afraid to get in faces.
    Next year’s team is going to be extremely young—in eligbility, the only scholarship senior will be Sheehey (unless Creek is still here,) and the only junior will be Abell (Etherington will be 3rd year but eligibility-wise will be a sophomore.) Yogi is the only current freshman who’ll likely be vocal enough to get on guys.

  • marcusgresham

    Ditto for PJ. He’s got a nice enough form on his shot if he can just catch the ball.

  • marcusgresham

    I think Teague left because everyone else did and it was kind of a save-face move.
    Yogi has a totally different mind-set, which you tell by the low number of shots he takes. He’s totally focused on the team’s success.

  • twarrior87

    Yes, Troy’s triple double was in the headline… hard not to notice. LOL

  • twarrior87

    I disagree, I think Vonleh will start in Watford’s spot. Troy will battle with Hollowell to start at the 3.

  • twarrior87

    I disagree, I think Vonleh will start in Watford’s spot. Troy will battle with Hollowell to start at the 3.

  • twarrior87

    He’s put up a few double doubles this year… Isn’t scoring 20 pts a game, but always seems to have very good rebound numbers. I trust he’s ranked in the top 10 by experts for a reason and there’s a reason why guys who are scoring more points aren’t ranked as highly.

  • twarrior87

    So you think Cody was crazy for staying in school this year and turning down millions of dollars?

  • TorontoHoosierFan

    Sorry, thought this was a site for IU fans, and not the spelling police. But point taken. I’m just hoping VONLEH will have the type of impact we need to propel us into being a top 10 team next year.

  • jiimyc

    Waukesha South is a football school, not really a basketball power at all…And when you’re that big in hs you can pretty much do what you want if you have any agility at all…

  • jimmyc

    Keep in mind he’s on a team of “stars” -much like an all-star team lineup they won’t all get to shine every night. Minutes get shared, points distributed…more so than a typical high school team.

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