The Minute After: Indiana Wesleyan

  • 11/01/2012 10:02 pm in

Thoughts on a 86-57 win over the Wildcats:

I. It was enough that Maurice Creek, for all his body’s endured (broken knee caps and a torn Achilles), even stepped out onto the Assembly Hall court this evening. But after the warm reception from the IU faithful which included a quick chant of his name upon checking in, Creek scored to tie the game. He hit a three to give Indiana its first lead. He nailed a runner. Seven points in eight minutes of first half action. It didn’t stop there. Creek knocked down another 3-pointer in the second half and connected on two free throws. He even registered a block. Creek led all Indiana scorers — this vaunted, much buzzed about offense — with 12 points.

Raise your hand if you called this one before the game.

It’s too early to say if this ends up as an anomaly or a sign of things to come. But damn if it wasn’t heartwarming to see.

II. This much was known before Yogi Ferrell’s debut: The young man is a blur with the ball, has excellent vision and passing instincts, can get to the rim or hit a J — either mid-range or beyond the 3-point arc. And he’s strong to boot. Still, seeing him in the cream and crimson tonight was almost jarring. In the Crean era, there’s simply never been a player anywhere near like him at the point of attack. Yes, there were some freshman errors. He finished the night with four turnovers, as there were a few passes — pretty as they looked — he might have been wise to hold back on.

Still, Ferrell was energetic on both sides of the ball this evening and had some really nice moves in the mid-range for buckets. And with so many players with the ability to pump in points, it’ll serve Indiana well to have a legitimate orchestrator to its offense.

III. Speaking of offense, Indiana had an interesting night with the ball in its hands. They were poor beyond the arc (5-of-19, 26.3%) and from the line (17-of-29, 58.6%). But the Hoosiers also got a healthy dose of looks in and around the basket, which helped offset their deficiencies in the aforementioned departments. Some of these came on the break (16 fast break points). Some came because they rebounded on the offensive end well (48.6 OR%, 19 second chance points). As such, they finished the night with a 57.5 eFG% and scored 1.29 points per possession.

That’s a recipe for offensive success most nights.

Some weirdness, though: Jordan Hulls didn’t score. He only attempted one shot in 22 minutes — a 3-point attempt which missed.

IV. This was not a 40-minute game for the Hoosiers tonight. Their poor start — their first sustained lead didn’t come until 6:03 onwards in the first half — was partly a product of its defense. There were IU defenders out of position, which allowed the Wildcats to get some open looks from beyond the arc early, and they converted on those opportunities. Indiana was able to shore up things in this department after halftime; there seemed to be more energy and effort on the defensive end to start the second half. The Wildcats only managed 10 points through the first 10:22 of the back frame of this game, and it allowed Indiana to built a 20-point lead which led to their evental 29-point win.

V. Couple other items of note before I’m out: Christian Watford had two impressive blocks. This is encouraging to see early on. Tom Crean also busted out a ton of different lineups and combination of players in this one. Will be interested to see if this continues early on in the non-conference slate or if it was just a product of an exhibition game.

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  • The_Real_Assembly_Hall

    I was very happy with the eruption he got on his first bucket.

  • The_Real_Assembly_Hall

    When DE comes back he will have a chip on his shoulder. After watching him the past 3 seasons it is my belief that he does play best with a chip on his shoulder.

  • The_Real_Assembly_Hall

    When DE comes back he will have a chip on his shoulder. After watching him the past 3 seasons it is my belief that he does play best with a chip on his shoulder.

  • The_Real_Assembly_Hall

    I think CW’s weak point has always been in the strength of his legs. When he gets his wind and game legs he will be fine. many of the missed shots early in the season on can purely be attributed to physical conditioning. While IU has a premier physical training program, players can run for days and days and days but only the games get a player truly prepped physically for the games.

  • The_Real_Assembly_Hall

    Enjoying every minute. It is laughable someone gave you a negative vote on your comment…….

  • The_Real_Assembly_Hall

    ……always work to do……

  • Banner6

    Couple of things to take away from the game, I sat 8th row, in my opinion, best seat in the house.
    Extremely worried about our ability to hit down open looks against bigger, stronger opponents. Especially with Hulls and Yogi on the floor at the same time, we run a kind of stand around, motion offense with no movement through the lane, baseline movement. Maybe run Hulls on the baseline, kind of like an offense to break a 1-3-1. Could NOT get the ball into Zeller! This is huge. Cody should’ve dominated the 6’6 guy matched up on him, but poor feeds down low, bad positioning limited his effectiveness. Yogi looked good, some bad mistakes overshadowed his otherwise good first game. Shooting percentages must go up, although it would’ve been much higher if we would’ve run more fast break in the first half. 58% from the line will not beat ANY team in the B1G. Although it was the first game, and I’m pleased in some areas, this was not a performance worthy of a #1 ranking. Biggest highlight of the night? Mo Creek going off after his standing O when he gets on the court.
    Good game, but realistically, no one at the game could say we would’ve beat ANY B1G team last night…must improve

  • Banner6

    Couple of things to take away from the game, I sat 8th row, in my opinion, best seat in the house.
    Extremely worried about our ability to hit down open looks against bigger, stronger opponents. Especially with Hulls and Yogi on the floor at the same time, we run a kind of stand around, motion offense with no movement through the lane, baseline movement. Maybe run Hulls on the baseline, kind of like an offense to break a 1-3-1. Could NOT get the ball into Zeller! This is huge. Cody should’ve dominated the 6’6 guy matched up on him, but poor feeds down low, bad positioning limited his effectiveness. Yogi looked good, some bad mistakes overshadowed his otherwise good first game. Shooting percentages must go up, although it would’ve been much higher if we would’ve run more fast break in the first half. 58% from the line will not beat ANY team in the B1G. Although it was the first game, and I’m pleased in some areas, this was not a performance worthy of a #1 ranking. Biggest highlight of the night? Mo Creek going off after his standing O when he gets on the court.
    Good game, but realistically, no one at the game could say we would’ve beat ANY B1G team last night…must improve

  • CreamandCrimson

    1st post edited…and yes Millzy, two Sheehey’s would be very nice.

    I would argue Sheehey is a significantly better defender than Hulls. If you want to say Creek compared to Hulls wouldn’t be giving up much defensively, I would agree with you.

  • millzy32

    Two Sheehey’s would be nice.

  • Steve Alford’s Hair Cut

    I disagree I think sheehey is far superior to sheehey.

  • Hoosierfan88

    Disagree. If we want offensive prowess we go with Sheehey. If we need a defense oriented lineup, Will is our guy.

  • Hoosierfan88

    Disagree. If we want offensive prowess we go with Sheehey. If we need a defense oriented lineup, Will is our guy.

  • NotTheRealSteveEyl

    Creek. Warmed the cockles, eh?

  • NotTheRealSteveEyl

    True, but, to be fair, we had so many guys play, and so many contribute, it’s pretty hard to fit them all in to a short piece like this.

  • NotTheRealSteveEyl

    True, but, to be fair, we had so many guys play, and so many contribute, it’s pretty hard to fit them all in to a short piece like this.

  • NotTheRealSteveEyl

    I am so with you. I’m sure Jordy will do some great stuff for us somewhere, but I’m not sure he’s the kind of player that fits well at this point.

    But, based purely on last night, I’d start Yogi and Creek. If Creek can stay healthy, that’s a mouthwatering backcourt.

  • NotTheRealSteveEyl

    I agree. The D and rebounding are a concern. Nost of the teams we play, at least until BT play, we can just run off the court. But eventually, we are going to have an off night against a good physical team, and we will need stops.

    I hope practice is 75% defense and rebounding at this point. This team can score in it’s sleep.

  • NotTheRealSteveEyl

    Hey now, don’t start no s**t about my boy Mandy.

  • NotTheRealSteveEyl

    Hey now, don’t start no s**t about my boy Mandy.

  • student

    Realistically, we would have beaten Nebraska at home last night, given it was Nebraska’s first game of the season as well. If we had played the team they will field Feb. 2013, maybe not.

    Realistically, we would have beaten another B1G team last night, given it was their first game.

  • Overhelping on a this team was killing me, also we were over aggressive and fell for every ball and shot fake. I wouldn’t help off a single person on that team just play your man. We always do this early in the season Crean put a stop to it earlier last year so hopefully it ends now.

  • Hitting open looks is the absolute last thing we should worry about with this team. We’re the best offense in the nation.

  • My initial thoughts are defensive philosophy still needs work and overall we look overly manic on D when we should just be playing smart. But coach gets everyone bought into getting deflections and being aggressive with their hands which they do so well.

    On offense if we get good rotations our bench will eat people alive. I don’t mind starting Hulls and Yogi early on so that we bring Abel and Sheehey in pissed off down 5 3 minutes into every game. A lineup of Abel, VO, WS, CW, CZ will be our best +/- lineup for the year ill put money on it.

    Mo Creek is back, doesn’t try to make the hero play. He is a smart player, and has gotten smarter learning from the bench the last two years. He takes Roth’s minutes and that means were just that much better on the defensive end. I forgot how many steals he used to get.

  • HoosierTrav

    It’s between Gary Harris, Yogi, and McGary. Hollowell, although I think he has the ability, I don’t think he will have the minutes not the numbers. Personally, I think its Gary Harris’ award to lose.

  • I just think the grey shoes are just too much Ohio St’ish. We have no grey in our school colors and it clashes with the rest of our uniform.

  • I just think the grey shoes are just too much Ohio St’ish. We have no grey in our school colors and it clashes with the rest of our uniform.

  • ace132

    Just gonna throw these numbers out there. other scrappy front lines at assembly hall last year: iowa, michigan and northwestern. cody went for 26 (11/12), 18 (8/10), 23 (9/11) respectively. i will agree he looked a little off but it was not because he wasnt used to scrappy/small frontcourt players

  • ace132

    As I said up top, other scrappy front lines at assembly hall last year: iowa, michigan and northwestern. cody went for 26 (11/12), 18 (8/10), 23 (9/11) respectively. i will agree he looked a little off but it was not because he wasnt used to scrappy/small frontcourt players

  • Kevin Tolliver

    Sheehey is one of my favorites on the team and may be a better all around player than Hulls, but we need ball handling (besides Yogi ) and outside shooting to spread defenses for Cody. Will is going to get plenty of playing time as he subs for CWat, Jordy, Will, and possibly Cody.

  • Kevin Tolliver

    Sheehey is one of my favorites on the team and may be a better all around player than Hulls, but we need ball handling (besides Yogi ) and outside shooting to spread defenses for Cody. Will is going to get plenty of playing time as he subs for CWat, Jordy, Will, and possibly Cody.

  • Kevin Tolliver

    I agree. I love my Hoosiers and understand it is early but it was ugly last night. Also I know we are loaded with talent and have a deep bench but playing too many players in a game makes it hard to get into the flow of the game.

  • JohnFromBeyond

    All of that in just 13 minutes!

  • 888

    I wonder if the keep playing poorly on offense if ctc will get them to play a little half court. It may be the thing to do with a big like Cody and all the shooters we have. Only run when it makes sense.

  • 888

    I wonder if the keep playing poorly on offense if ctc will get them to play a little half court. It may be the thing to do with a big like Cody and all the shooters we have. Only run when it makes sense.

  • 888

    I’m glad everyone is seeing how good yogi is. That was an argument on here all year. Who would start. A few of us told everybody how good he was and now you see it. Just like Cody being ranked to low in high school yogi was as well. Yogis a top 5 talent. Period. Best point guard in high school 2011. As the year goes on there will be games that yogi and Cody will simply put the team on their backs and will us to a win we wouldn’t normally get. Like on the road at msu, Michigan, or Ohio state. Yogi driven to the hole to collapse the defense and dumping to Cody to finish. My other prediction is that Cody will definitely be back for his junior year. Ctc will slow down his substitutions in big games. He’s just seeing what works and getting guys in the game. No need to panic fellas ctc wants to win first not make sure everybody gets playing time. This isn’t pee wee baseball. Playing time will start to take shape soon. Mo may only play 15 minutes a game till he gets stronger but they will be 15 productive minutes. What a weapon. Imagine if he was 100 percent!

  • 888

    Remy is not better than yogi my friend. Not even close. As the season goes on you will see. Yogi will be an all-American next year with Cody. Rely will never be an all -American. In time the rest of you will see what a few of us have been saying all year. Yogi is the real deal. Same impact as Cody. He just has it all. Just wait till he faces Burke and crosses him over and breaks his ankles like he’s been doing to everyone.

  • The_Real_Assembly_Hall

    I agree. He will get a lot of attention since being somewhat looked as a go to guy on that team.

  • The_Real_Assembly_Hall

    I agree. He will get a lot of attention since being somewhat looked as a go to guy on that team.

  • Evansville Hoosier

    But Will is a very good outside shooter?

  • The_Real_Assembly_Hall

    We are wearing the white addidas shoe in the ESPN The Magazine College Basketball Preview. Looked great. Kansas is in the same boat with the same shoes. Theirs actually remind me of a bowl of fruity pebbles.

  • Kevin Tolliver

    Yes he is and more athletic, but in my opinion and Im sure you would agree, Hulls is a much much better shooter, and much better ball handler.

  • Kevin Tolliver

    Mo will be our 2012-2013 Roth

  • Kevin Tolliver

    This is not a knock to Mo in no way. Roth was an awesome shooter and weapon to have.

  • freethrow

    IU was not playing well. Hollowell comes in and does it all to get the Hoosiers on track. He played a solid game and deserves more PT.

  • freethrow

    IU was not playing well. Hollowell comes in and does it all to get the Hoosiers on track. He played a solid game and deserves more PT.

  • I never said Remy was better than yogi, I know he is not. I am talking about lineups. Our best offense will be good defense and all I am saying is when Abel and WS come in early in the game they will turn up the defensive pressure. Its not all about scoring points, as you can see from the NAIA team that scored at will early on against us.