Eligibility status of Mosquera-Perea, Jurkin still uncertain

  • 11/01/2012 10:52 pm in

Indiana freshmen Hanner Mosquera-Perea and Peter Jurkin have yet to be cleared to play by the NCAA and Tom Crean was asked to provide an update on their status following Thursday’s 86-57 exhibition win over Indiana Wesleyan.

The process of determining the eligibility for both players is still ongoing based on Crean’s comments.

“What I can say about that is that we go through a lot in a program,” he said. “There’s situations that are always going to arise and every one of them has got a process to it. And we’re in the middle of that process. We just are. That’s the extent of it. They’re two great kids that are trying to get better every day and it’s not like it’s anything that we’re dealing with that just came up. It’s been a process for some time. And that’s really where we’re at with it.”

Mosquera-Perea, who was in uniform, sat out against Indiana Wesleyan with a left foot injury that has hampered him for much of the summer and fall.

Jurkin, a native of the Sudan, played 11 minutes, scored four points and grabbed one rebound. Crean said he was encouraged by how Jurkin played, but acknowledged that he’s very much a work in progress.

“He’s gotta learn how to play,” Crean said. “There’s not one guy on the team that doesn’t want to see him succeed. And what I need is, I need them to start being harder on him because he’s pretty good. Again, he needs to play. He needs that time. He needs to learn how to use his length and he’s not strong enough yet. There’s no way around that, but he needs the chance to play so that he can grow into it because he’s an extremely willing learner.”

With Indiana’s season opener against Bryant just eight days away, there’s still no definitive timetable on when a determination on the eligibility of both players will be made.

“I wish I could answer that. I wish I could. I just don’t (know),” Crean said. “We’re in the midst of it. It’s like anything else, it’s daily. You don’t get ahead of yourself, you just keep staying in the day with it, the moment with it and keep working the best way that you can and see what’s next.”

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  • N71

    Can anyone shed some light on the intent of the NCAA rules we’re trying to navigate here? Are these unique to Hanner and Peter because they’re not US citizens (I don’t even know if that’s correct)? If we understood the rules perhaps it would be less of a mystery on where we are in the process.

  • NotTheRealSteveEyl

    That first quote by Crean is some world-class “talking a llong time without saying anything”. Basically, he doesn’t know much, and what he does know, he ain’t tellin’.

  • NotTheRealSteveEyl

    That first quote by Crean is some world-class “talking a llong time without saying anything”. Basically, he doesn’t know much, and what he does know, he ain’t tellin’.

  • CONRAD

    I AM BEGINNING TO WONDER IF THE PROBLEM WITH ELIGIBILITY IS THE REASON IU IS PURSUING 2013 CLASS SO HARD SO LATE

  • CONRAD

    I AM BEGINNING TO WONDER IF THE PROBLEM WITH ELIGIBILITY IS THE REASON IU IS PURSUING 2013 CLASS SO HARD SO LATE

  • Old Hoosier

    Isn’t that interesting that Nerlens Noel is already cleared to play, but IU is still fighting to get their 2 cleared. Makes you wonder what it takes to get friends in high places like that.

  • Do not read to much into it. The NCAA is slow and works on there timetable. They don’t care that the season is about to start. It will happen when it happens. At least we do not have any players suspended like Louisville or Michigan

  • cdog

    Why do we continue to recruit “work in progress” players from foreign countries that have questionable eligibility issues? It seems the success rate on these players is pretty low. The bigger question is how did Hanner rise in the rankings to be a top 20 (#16) recruit as recently as one year ago? How do you go from being talked about as an NBA talent with unlimited upside to being a long-term “work in progress”? I watched Hanner’s HS team get held to 34 points in a loss to little regarded Elgin in a tournament in Chicago last year. Hanner was a no show.

  • cdog

    Why do we continue to recruit “work in progress” players from foreign countries that have questionable eligibility issues? It seems the success rate on these players is pretty low. The bigger question is how did Hanner rise in the rankings to be a top 20 (#16) recruit as recently as one year ago? How do you go from being talked about as an NBA talent with unlimited upside to being a long-term “work in progress”? I watched Hanner’s HS team get held to 34 points in a loss to little regarded Elgin in a tournament in Chicago last year. Hanner was a no show.

  • No one knows what specifically is being looked at besides IU and the NCAA and neither entity is commenting.

  • Matt

    The “work in progress” Crean was referring to is Jurkin, not Perea.

  • WhatsUpKnight

    amen, brother! different circumstances, but still doesn’t seem fair. what we can take to the bank is ctc is going about things correctly, full disclosure all the way.

  • superhoops

    Crean should have learned from the Guy Michel case. He knows what’s going on and he’s being evasive as he knows it is a problem. They (NCAA) have been working on this for some time, especially in the Perea case. Said it before, Perea won’t be suiting up for us anytime soon. Crean needs to come clean with this. He knows what’s up and is not saying. If either one of these guys don’t play due to his inability to recruit eligible players, he needs to be seriously reprimanded. First, Michel, then screws up G. Harris’ recruitment by violating a secondary rule, now Perea and Jurkin are questionable. As long as we’re #1 I suppose it’s all good. We tolerated Knight’s crap for years, I suppose we’ll do the same with Crean as long as he wins.

  • The Gary Harris decision had nothing to do with a secondary rule violation. And in the case of Mosquera-Perea, unless you’re going to cite your source on a comment like “Perea won’t be suiting up for us anytime soon,” you’re purely speculating.

  • Mr. Body

    It seems like the NCAA could get to these things earlier. I realize they have NCAAF to clear and there are other sports, but it’s not a huge mystery what players are on what teams.

    I realize they’re underresourced or whatever, yadda yadda, but for almost any other organization, getting answers basically when the season is about to start would be unacceptable.

  • Mr. Body

    It seems like the NCAA could get to these things earlier. I realize they have NCAAF to clear and there are other sports, but it’s not a huge mystery what players are on what teams.

    I realize they’re underresourced or whatever, yadda yadda, but for almost any other organization, getting answers basically when the season is about to start would be unacceptable.

  • DarkSouth

    “He knows what’s going on and he’s being evasive as he knows it is a problem. …Crean needs to come clean with this.”

    He may or may not know what’s going but he cannot comment on a personal or academic issue with a student athlete. The academic stuff would be a clear violation of policy and a comment on an unproven personal situation would be, at minimum, a moral violation.

  • DarkSouth

    I should have added: Guy was never ruled permanently ineligible if I remember correctly. Part of his problem was that he was deemed to have started his college education due to a interpretation of a French school academic model. You have 5 years to use 4 years of eligibility and that cost him his 2nd year.

  • DarkSouth

    I should have added: Guy was never ruled permanently ineligible if I remember correctly. Part of his problem was that he was deemed to have started his college education due to a interpretation of a French school academic model. You have 5 years to use 4 years of eligibility and that cost him his 2nd year.

  • DarkSouth

    Citizenship is not an NCAA concern, so it’s not that.

  • Jethro Troll

    Guys, alot of programs deal with eligibility issues every year. UCLA had their 2 best players under review for months now (1 just finally got cleared to play). This isnt just an IU issue. Some of you need to take a deep breath, and stop production at the conspiracy factory. Seriously.

  • ScoopGeoff

    That being said, Jordan was a work in progress 10 years into the league… All players should be working to constantly improve. I think Perea will look very good in his stints on the floor. He has an impressive body already, unlike Jurkin who looks willowy out there, and will be more athletic than at least 8 of the other players on the floor. He’ll be fun to watch even if he takes a couple years to get polished.

  • The_Real_Assembly_Hall

    Agreed. There are more sports than just hoops, men and womens sports, and football takes a huge amount of clearing house time. No reason to panic what so ever.

  • The_Real_Assembly_Hall

    Bam

  • The_Real_Assembly_Hall

    Respectfully, I don’t see the correlation between this point in question and Guy. With PJ and HP were I think we are talking about amatuer qualifications but with Guy it was a timeline of amateur status qualification versus when it started and when it ran out. Apples and oranges so lets not butter the bread with dread just quite yet based on a non relevant past circumstance.

  • The_Real_Assembly_Hall

    Respectfully, I don’t see the correlation between this point in question and Guy. With PJ and HP were I think we are talking about amatuer qualifications but with Guy it was a timeline of amateur status qualification versus when it started and when it ran out. Apples and oranges so lets not butter the bread with dread just quite yet based on a non relevant past circumstance.

  • The_Real_Assembly_Hall

    You are exactly right.

  • The_Real_Assembly_Hall

    I wonder if the coach down south without a drivers license owns a race horse named Mark E in his stable?

  • The_Real_Assembly_Hall

    You always pursue until there is nothing left to pursue.

  • The_Real_Assembly_Hall

    Would we expect anyone that doesn’t know anything just to throw random stuff on the wall to see what sticks? There most likely just isn’t anything to say!

  • The_Real_Assembly_Hall

    Would we expect anyone that doesn’t know anything just to throw random stuff on the wall to see what sticks? There most likely just isn’t anything to say!

  • Spellydoo

    I will bet you $10,000 that both play this year.

    And “seriously reprimand”? Are you kidding? What would you suggest? They dock his pay becuase he tried to give two kids a chance to play basketball and get a free education that had they stayed in their home countires they would have never been able to afford?

  • NotTheRealSteveEyl

    Relax, it was a comment borne out of respect. Sort of like how Bill Parcells or Greg Popovich never really answers a question.

    What would it benefit Crean to say anythihng?

  • The_Real_Assembly_Hall

    It is so comical that I agree completely with Jethro and he gets a positive vote and then I get a negative vote. Lol this is getting funny….

  • MillaRed

    We already knew the NCAA was one of the most inefficient organizations of all-time. What makes zero sense is the fact these kids verbaled and signed a LOI months ago! WTH do these people do everyday?

    “Hey folks, we are going to wait until the season starts before we make any determinations here. For now, walk around looking like you are doing something. That’s how we roll.”

    These people never cease to amaze me in their lack of professionalism!

  • MillaRed

    I told you man it’s the Dislike Leprechaun. He is the coolest guy ever!

  • MillaRed

    I told you man it’s the Dislike Leprechaun. He is the coolest guy ever!

  • JB07

    Pretty nervous about this whole situation after reading the articles below listing the benefits possibly at question combined with the information from another article. I really hope A-Hope knew what they were doing. Roundtip airfare from the U.S. to Columbia is going to be just a tad bit more than $300. I’m more concerned about this from the kids’ perspective than IU. Would be a shame if they are penalized for something they undoubtedly never understood fully.

    “By NCAA rules, any extra benefit from $100 to $300 requires a three-game
    suspension, a harsh penalty considering the offense, yet at least one the
    organization has been consistent about enforcing.”

    Source – http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/birthday-discount-reason-ncaa-suspended-mexico-jamal-fenton-174509388–ncaab.html;_ylt=Ah_rw4nAvBwwAXbgJmp39fzevbYF;_ylu=X3oDMTQwb2h1cWg1BG1pdANGRUFUVVJFRCBNZWdhdHJvbiBOQ0FBQgRwa2cDYWM3ODE2M2ItYzY2OS0zZWNiLWJiM2ItNzY5MWUxY2QxZmRlBHBvcwMyBHNlYwNtZWdhdHJvbgR2ZXIDNDQzOTllMTAtMjUzNC0xMWUyLWJiOGEtYmU5M2RjMzEzODU2;_ylg=X3oDMTFqcGhkc2djBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANuY2FhYgRwdANzZWN0aW9ucw–;_ylv=3

    “A-HOPE paid for Perea’s round-trips to Bogotá, Colombia, last summer and this past Christmas — the latter not long after he verbally committed to the Hoosiers in October. Mark Adams also has provided Perea a cell phone and pays the bill, gave him a used iPod and bought a $400 laptop that Perea shares with another A-HOPE player. Such treatment potentially violates NCAA extra benefits bylaws and thus could impact Perea’s initial NCAA eligibility at Indiana.”

    Source -http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/66390/will-indianas-freshman-forwards-be-eligible

  • IUFAN87

    Every one is sayin that they don’t know what is being ruled on well for Jurkin I am with you before this last week never heard anything about him being investigated. For HP it has been said all summer by numourus people on here that HP AAU summer ball was under investigation. My ? is how do you go forward are they allowed to play til NCAA says something or are they out till NCAA says something or if they play and then ruled ineligable do we have to forefit those games?

  • freethrow

    You ask, ‘How slow is the NCAA??’ Memphis, under coach Cal’s questionable leadership, played an entire season with two players that were not ruled on until after March Maddness. You recall they forfeited 37 wins for not reporting the academic ineligibilty of the two.

  • Here is your reason CTC received a 3% on Who is perceived to be the biggest cheaters in the sport CBS article. Nothing on the level of calipari or scott drew but CTC did receive votes from other college coaches over the summer.

    I personally didn’t like how he handled. Although its fair game.
    Buss, Roth, and Capo.

    I feel nervous watching Mo Creek play basketball. Same as I did with the kid that had an heart condition E. Negedu.

    Stay away from the Jobe, Bawa, Peter, Hanner, GUY type of players with red flags. A high risk high reward situation that doesn’t always work out for the better.

    We can win with average Indiana kids that rebound and do the dirty work. IMO. Player development.

  • Geoff_85

    these situations Buss didn’t pass summer classes. Do you suggest that Coach Crean should’ve let him play anyway? That’s a really intelligent suggestion. I’m sure there wouldn’t have been any NCAA violations over that. Roth said HIMSELF that he was kept in the loop during the whole process and that he has nothing against IU, staff, or the process itself. How was that handled poorly? Coach Crean did Bobby Capobianco a favor. He had absolutely no business playing in the Big Ten. He came to terms with that and now he is at a school where he can actually play. That worked out for the best for everybody. Please elaborate on what you meant when you said you don’t like how these situations were handled.

  • HoosierGrad07

    I read as I’m sure many of you did that the main question in both players eligibility is a new NCAA rule requiring paperwork from foreign-born players proving they went to Middle School. And since this rule did not exist when the players gave their verbal to IU, the paperwork wasn’t readily available. And as you might imagine it has been very difficult and may prove to be impossible to track down all this paperwork. So as far as I’ve read, that’s the only issue facing either player now. Nothing about A-HOPE or illegal benefits. Both players will be cleared eventually (hopefully before the Legends Classic at Barclays).

  • The_Real_Assembly_Hall

    What? Lol I was agreeing with you and basically saying anyone else who thinks different is not being realistic. I totally am with you on your comment. It’s all good man.

  • The_Real_Assembly_Hall

    What? Lol I was agreeing with you and basically saying anyone else who thinks different is not being realistic. I totally am with you on your comment. It’s all good man.

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    If there’s one program in the nation that the NCAA will stick it to, it’s us at IU! Anderson and Shabazz Muhammed from UCLA, cleared. Nerlens Noel from pUKe, cleared (and that investigation was huge!!!). The list goes on and on, but then you come down to two guys from IU, who weren’t top ten recruits and it’s highly unlikely they were taking any bags of cash to come play at IU (eh-hum Calipayoff), and BOOM, the NCAA is going to take forever to make a decision. I’m telling you all now it’s the penance we pay for having RMK as a coach for so long. He pissed so many people in the NCAA off that they’ll hold it against us for another 30 years even after he’s dead and burried!!! I feel sorry for CTC because he’s going to have to deal with this sort of crap for the foreseeable future or until he establishes his own legacy at IU that says we’re clean and on the level.

    This just fuels my hatred and contempt for the “Mickey Mouse” organization that is . . . the NCAA!!!

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    Difference is that the NCAA will complete those investigations before the season starts because God forbid we hold up pUKe, Duke, UNC, or UCLA from getting their season off on the right foot!

    You would think as the #1 team in the nation that CTC and IU would’ve earned that respect back for the program!

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    Excellent point that Perea and Jurkin were committed long before a Nerlens Noel but he’s already been cleared despite a lengthy investigation . . . hmmm???

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    Excellent point that Perea and Jurkin were committed long before a Nerlens Noel but he’s already been cleared despite a lengthy investigation . . . hmmm???

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    That and the odds are increasing that a Cody Zeller and/or VO are gone next year.