Inside the Hall’s preseason All-Big Ten teams

With Big Ten media day looming on Thursday in Chicago, it’s time to reveal Inside the Hall’s preseason All-Big Ten teams and our picks for player of the year, freshman of the year, sixth man of the year and defensive player of the year in the conference:

THIRD TEAM

Jared Berggren, Wisconsin
Branden Dawson, Michigan State
Victor Oladipo, Indiana
Roy Devyn Marble, Iowa
Gary Harris, Michigan State

Comment: A lot of players under consideration for this third and final team including Ryan Evans of Wisconsin, Brandon Paul of Illinois, Adreian Payne of Michigan State and Aaron White of Iowa. An argument can be made for each player, but Oladipo and Marble took the final two spots because we’re expecting both to make even larger strides in their junior campaigns.

SECOND TEAM

Tim Frazier, Penn State
Keith Appling, Michigan State
Trevor Mbakwe, Minnesota
Christian Watford, Indiana
Tim Hardaway, Michigan

Comment: While Mbakwe was in our top 5 players in the league back in August, his recent legal woes could either serve as motivation or a distraction. Frazier will be on a lot of preseason first teams as well, but he misses with us due to being inefficient offensively, whether it’s his fault or not.

FIRST TEAM

Cody Zeller, Indiana
Trey Burke, Michigan
Deshaun Thomas, Ohio State
Aaron Craft, Ohio State
Drew Crawford, Northwestern

Comment: The surprise here is Crawford, who will shoulder an even bigger load with the departure of Jon Shurna and as a result, should put up monster numbers. The other four picks were no-brainers.

PLAYER OF THE YEAR: Cody Zeller, Indiana

FRESHMAN OF THE YEAR: Gary Harris, Michigan State

DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR: Aaron Craft, Ohio State

SIXTH MAN OF THE YEAR: Will Sheehey, Indiana

  • CreamandCrimson

    Mbakwe’s “recent legal troubles” go back to 2009. He shouldn’t be playing college basketball. Still, I understand putting him on the second team. I think Oladipo finds himself higher than the Third Team when the postseason teams are released but again, I understand the pick. I would take Watford over Crawford but the rationale behind the pick makes sense.

    Overall, no huge gripes. Bottom line, there is a ton of talent in the conference this season.

  • http://twitter.com/sams212 Sam Calbert Schultz

    Victor Oladipo is a better player than Christian Watford. He is faster, more agressive and a better defender. He gets to the rim, and if he can get his outside shot down he will be unstoppable. By the end of the season he will be second team all Big Ten.

  • Sherronhasaheadache

    the big ten is totally loaded thats for sure. no PUke on the list? what a shame NOT!

  • Evansville Hoosier

    I think picking Crawford is smart; he was efficient last season despite taking quite a few shots. I wouldn’t have argued against Frazier either though.

  • MillaRed

    I too like Vic on the 2nd team, and to compete with Craft (who still can’t shoot worth a damn) for Def POY.

    I also think Yogi will have something to say about that FR POY. Especially if he leads IU to a B1G title.

    I don’t think Marble will be on any of these lists at season end. And I don’t think Crawford will be 1st team. He will miss Shurna.

  • twarrior87

    I would like nothing more than to see Yogi come in and beat out Harris for FOY. Not saying that will happen, but it would be great. I think Yogi will have a huge impact with his speed and passing ability. He will be integral in getting the ball to Zeller and/or driving the lane to open up guys like Jordy and Cwat for the 3. I think most of his impact will come in those areas and he may not score enough points to catch the eyes of voters for FOY.

  • http://www.facebook.com/geoff.chenoweth Geoff Chenoweth

    Drew Crawford over Tim Frazier? Appling on the 2nd team? I’d take any member of the 3rd team over him.

  • IUMIKE1

    I also think VO competes with Craft for Def POY. VO has the proven ability to guard more positions than Craft who I feel like is, for the most part, restricted to matching up against other guards. If I’m a coach and someone asks me would I want a really good defensive player that can guard numerous positions on the floor and who can usually hold his own long enough to not get burned, if caught in a switch on a bigger man, until he can switch back and who stands a lot better chance of either blocking or altering his man’s shot and will get you an above average number of steals. Or would I rather have a player that is really good defensive player that is, pretty much restricted to matching up with guards and who may be at a noticeable disadvantage if the guard happens to be a bigger and/or stronger one and while he may have a little bit higher steals per game stat does not really possess the ability to block or alter his man’s shot and if caught in a switch on a bigger man is a lot more likely to get burned, then I take the player described first every time.

    With you on FR POY, think it could very well boil down to whose team finishes higher in the final conference standings and/or success in the Big Dance. It could also end up being the same as last year where one group picked one player and the other group picked a different player.

    Also with you on Crawford, think there will be several times that he reaches for the sky with open arms muttering to himself, “John… John, where have you gone, what should I do”.

    Removed the Crimson colored glasses and reread the part about VO and Craft and still stick with what I said.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=47200990 Matt Humphrey

    The 2nd team is a better team then the 3rd team. lol

  • The_Real_Assembly_Hall

    There will be opinions for minor tweaks here and there but in my opinion you hit it right on the head. Seeing Will as the sixth man made up for him not making the 3rd team. Yogi instead of Gary will be a season long debate. All in all excellent job guys!

  • jmfriedman

    I think Gary Harris is getting a little too much cred…. I saw him play numerous times and I know how talented he is, but I think Yogi wins FOY and I think Harris struggles a bit, especially early on. Think about it- put Vic on him and do you really think he is gonna control a game? I know he is good, but he will have a hard time against BIG defender’s length and speed. It is just on another level he hasn’t seen. I guess we will see, but my money is on Yogi.

  • CreamandCrimson

    How is that laughable? The 2nd team is supposed to be better than the 3rd team.

  • CreamandCrimson

    How is that laughable? The 2nd team is supposed to be better than the 3rd team.

  • CreamandCrimson

    I am huge fan of Hulls as well. However, his career high for points per game is 11.7 (last season). He averaged 11 during his sophomore season. He played 30 minutes a game last season. I just don’t see him increasing his scoring average by over 3 points a game this season.

    I think he will be extremely effective and a valuable part of this team. However, if your expectations are 15 points a game, I think he may end up disappointing you. Hope I am wrong though.

  • MillaRed

    I know right? The media always has their strange “darling” picks. One of the best PGs in the country? Puuulease! The dude cannot shoot a basketball. And we Hoosiers know this is a sin.

  • MillaRed

    Oddly enough, the 1st team looks better than the 2nd team. Alex is a sorcerer!

  • MillaRed

    Oddly enough, the 1st team looks better than the 2nd team. Alex is a sorcerer!

  • CreamandCrimson

    I prefer thinking of Alex as a warlock but true, he magically made the 1st team look better than the 2nd team. Also Milla, I agree with your Marble skepticism. If forced to take an Iowa player, I would have chosen White. I think the rationale behind them taking Crawford is that he is going to put up a lot of points and rebounds because of the lack of other scoring options. I don’t necessarily agree with the “accumulation stats because of a lack of other options equals worthy of being 1st team All-Big Ten” line of thinking but I think that was their rationale. I would agree with you though, Crawford probably won’t end up 1st team because NW, once again, will miss the tournament.

  • DarkSouth

    A Vatican assassin warlock, mind you.

    If Crawford doesn’t live up to the 1st team billing I think it’s more likely due to teams throwing everything at him defensively as opposed to record. Fraiser is highly thought of despite Penn State being about as talented as a marginal mid-major (kidding).

  • lug

    I almost agree, but i pause because Victor’s amazing athletic ability allows him to be third team. Imagine Watford with Oladipo athleticism. When we speak in terms of a basketball player Watford is better. He can dribble and shoot better than Oladipo. Watfords game is more polished where Oladipo has barely scratched the surface. Hopefully Oladipo has shortened the gap this offseason.

  • lug

    I almost agree, but i pause because Victor’s amazing athletic ability allows him to be third team. Imagine Watford with Oladipo athleticism. When we speak in terms of a basketball player Watford is better. He can dribble and shoot better than Oladipo. Watfords game is more polished where Oladipo has barely scratched the surface. Hopefully Oladipo has shortened the gap this offseason.

  • lug

    uh yep.

  • marcusgresham

    Let’s not forget Watford is a far better shooter and was guarding the point at 6’9″ on multiple occasions. Oladipo is a far superior athlete and may end up a better basketball player some day, but right now I don’t know if I can agree with that statement.

  • marcusgresham

    If I were coaching against Indiana I would tell whomever I put on Hulls that you are not to leave him at any time, even if your teammate is getting burnt right down the lane. A dunk is just two points, but if you leave that kid wide open it’s almost an automatic three.

  • Btown88

    Look for CWat to move up to #1 team, as result of Yogi feeds, and Yogi will get FOI. I don’t see Raft or Crawford on #1 team. Would not be surprised to see VO move up to 1or 2.

  • Btown88

    Look for CWat to move up to #1 team, as result of Yogi feeds, and Yogi will get FOI. I don’t see Raft or Crawford on #1 team. Would not be surprised to see VO move up to 1or 2.

  • SCHoosier

    I think Craft can rise to a new challenge. Has had plenty of shooters to surround him first couple of years..his job was to run the team and lock down the opponet’s point guard which he effectively did. This year..while Thomas would LIKE to take 75% of OSU’s shots..I think Craft will be asked to score..and I think he will…pull up jumpers..getting to the rim..an occassional 3. I think his offensive potential is being overlooked by most IU fans. Guess we’ll find out.

  • Knuckledrager

    Even me, knuckledrager know that second team better than third them. lol. Even know first team bestess. They should beat third team too. snicker. Millared right. Alex is magic user. Get a rope.

  • DannerPerea

    Kentucky GRE exam question #1)
    Rank the following in order of best to worst:
    1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

  • Hoosierfan2335

    i don’t know about yogi getting frosh of the year. we’ll see, he definitely has an opportunity to shine. it looks like harris might be their best option on offense. and we all know how ppg heavy these awards are.

  • Hoosierfan2335

    does oladipo have a shot at defensive player of the year over craft?

  • calbert40

    I don’t see how Crawford is ahead of Frazier for 1st team. I’d put Frazier ahead of Craft too. I think Thomas and Craft are both overrated, and I would not be surprised if neither were 1st team at the end of the season.

    1st Team (in order)
    Zeller, Burke, Frazier, Thomas, Craft

    2nd Team (in order)
    Crawford, Watford, Mbakwe, Oladipo, Berggren

    3rd Team (in order)
    Appling, White, Hardaway, Ferrell, Dawson

    POY – Zeller
    FOY – Yogi
    D-POY – Craft (but Vic should have a good shot)
    6th man – Will

  • MillaRed

    I think ITH was doing the best they can to not homer on the these picks. Consider the following:

    CWat is the returning career points leader in the Big Ten. He has 1st team “potential” if he brings it every night and rebounds better.

    What is the ceiling on Victor? 2nd team is very attainable if he can knock down 3′s at a 35% clip.

    Jordy? H yes! He is very capable of making this list. Who will be spotting up when Yogi is doing his thing? many, many open 3 pointers are in Jordy’s future. Limit the TOs and he is on the 3rd team.

    Yogi can reach 2nd team if he is who we think he is. FR made it last year. Not sure why he can’t make on one of these squads.

  • calbert40

    Yeah, I don’t know how realistic it is to get 4 guys in the Top 15 in the conference when it is so loaded, but that’s how I see it. I really think that VO may have a shot at 1st team, IF he is more consistent as well as develops a better perimeter shooting game. If he does that, he is as complete a wing that the conference has.

    Same with CWat. His bugaboo is consistency as well. He can be 1st team if he brings his A game each night too.

    I think Hardaway on the 2nd team is the influence of “anti-homerism.” UM is the consensus 2nd best team in the B1G, they are Top 5 in many polls, so they have to have more than just Burke at the top. But Hardaway has the same issues as Victor can have with consistency and shot. I think Victor is the better athlete, plays on a better team, and has a higher ceiling. That’s why I give him the edge for the 2nd team over Hardaway.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1048867326 Miles Noe

    freshman of the year will be Yogi, and I think you could make a case for him on 3rd team as well, I think Harris will be good, but freshman seldom flourish in Lansing!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1048867326 Miles Noe

    freshman of the year will be Yogi, and I think you could make a case for him on 3rd team as well, I think Harris will be good, but freshman seldom flourish in Lansing!

  • KevOMG

    I’m very high on this team, but don’t seem to be as high as some people. From what many people are saying, they think we’ll have the POY, FOY, and DPOY? Pretty high expectations for a team…

    Solid analysis by ITH. One thing that always makes me enjoy this site is their ability to be as unbiased as they can and use other sources and join with other blogs to bring great analysis.

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