Open Thread: Discuss the 2012-2013 rotation

One of the more interesting open threads we’ve had over the last two offseasons on Inside the Hall is our poll on who will comprise the rotation for the upcoming season.

Two years ago, the idea was born after comments by Tom Crean stating that when he spoke with several of his players, most of them had Guy-Marc Michel in their top eight for the 2010-2011 rotation. A lot can happen between now and the beginning of practice, as evidenced two years ago with Marc-Michel who never played a game for the Hoosiers.

Last year, nearly 200 of you chimed in with your thoughts on a team that ended up in the Sweet 16 after being picked by most to finish in the bottom half of the Big Ten.

We’ll once again change the questions slightly this season, but here are two to ponder: With four of five starters returning and a highly ranked recruiting class arriving, how many players do you expect to average more than ten minutes per game? (Note: There were eight last season.)

And second, which five players will start the first Big Ten game?

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  • calbert40

    The question that was asked wasn’t who each of us would start if we were the coach. The question was what do we think that starting lineup will be.

    I would love to see Jordy come off of the bench (still play a lot of minutes, though), and slide VO to the 2 and let Will start at the 3. I don’t think CTC will do that, because Will was better off the bench last season, and the starting lineup does need a strong 3 pt shooter to stretch the floor.

    As many have said, CTC has given deference to older players in the past, so I think he will do the same this season. However, I think he will find it extremely difficult not to play Yogi starter’s minutes. He’s just too good not to start. If Yogi starts, I don’t see CTC sitting Jordy, especially given his leadership abilities.

  • aiyre

    I think the starting line up for the first B1G game will be yogi hulls zeller watford oladipo. i think hulls should be playing his natural position on wing and as #2.

  • S3THKOBL3

    Why does everyone forget about Maurice Creek? Before his injuries he was the best player on the team! Crean himself has said how hard Creek’s been working and I wouldn’t be the slightest bit surprised if he found himself in an early rotation.

    Other than that, my starting five would be:
    PG – Hulls
    SG – Oladipo
    SF – Sheehey
    PF – Watford
    C – Zeller

    First to be subbed in for the following positions:
    PG – Ferrell
    SG – Hollowell
    SF – Perea
    PF – Creek
    C – Jurkin

  • S3THKOBL3

    Why does everyone forget about Maurice Creek? Before his injuries he was the best player on the team! Crean himself has said how hard Creek’s been working and I wouldn’t be the slightest bit surprised if he found himself in an early rotation.

    Other than that, my starting five would be:
    PG – Hulls
    SG – Oladipo
    SF – Sheehey
    PF – Watford
    C – Zeller

    First to be subbed in for the following positions:
    PG – Ferrell
    SG – Hollowell
    SF – Perea
    PF – Creek
    C – Jurkin

  • GSchaef

    It will be interesting to see how much Remy has improved this summer. I expect him to get just as many minutes as Yogi this year

  • Hoosier_DC

    Bringing on Abel last year has proven to be brilliant now that Ron is gone for 2012/13

  • http://twitter.com/HoosiersFTW David Yaraschefski

    I’d be shocked if Jordy didn’t start at point guard all year long. I think everyone’s putting way too much emphasis on the implications behind what being a starter means. It doesn’t mean you get the most playing time, nor does it necessarily mean you are the best player on the team. The starting five is the five guys who can get the team in the best rhythm, the fastest, at the beginning of the game.

    I think you can count on CZ, Watford, Will, and Dipo starting all the games, and I honestly believe that Jordy will start them all as well. Yogi will get a ton of playing time also, and will split time with Jordy and the other front court Depending on matchups and situations (which is much more of an impact on rotation than talent when you have a talent pool like this team will).

  • Geoff_85

    It’s very difficult to judge what the best team is that IU can put on the floor, so I will post lineups that are respective to matchups:

    Small
    PG Ferrell
    SG Hulls
    SF Oladipo
    PF Watford
    C Zeller

    Big
    PG Oladipo
    SG Sheehey
    SF Watford
    PF Zeller
    C Jurkin

    Fast
    PG Ferrell
    SG Oladipo
    SF Sheehey
    PF Watford
    C Zeller

    Defensive
    PG Ferrell
    SG Oladipo
    SF Watford
    PF Zeller
    C Jurkin

    Offensive and/or Run and Gun
    PG Ferrell
    SG Hulls
    SF Oladipo
    PF Watford
    C Zeller

    Quick 3pt
    PG Ferrell
    SG Hulls
    SF Etherington
    PF Watford
    C Zeller

    Starting Lineup and rotation at the Beginning of the Season
    PG Hulls
    SG Oladipo
    SF Sheehey
    PF Watford
    C Zeller

    6. Ferrell 7. Creek 8. Elston 9. Perea 10. Hollowell 11. Abell 12. Jurkin 13. Etherington

    The only reason, and I mean the ONLY reason, that I left Ferrell off of the “Beginning of the Season” lineup is because Coach Crean stays true to his upper classmen. That’s also the reason that I have Hollowell 10th in the rotation because I think he could be 6th or 7th. I hope Elston is 100% and Creek (feasibly) is 80%. I hate putting Etherington 13th, but there is just so much talent on this team that it’s hard to see him getting minutes over some of the freshmen. Having said that, given Coach Crean’s loyalty to his upperclassmen, it would not surprise me if Etherington gets more minutes than Jurkin and Hollowell…maybe even Perea, but in all likelihood he won’t. No way he gets more minutes than Ferrell though. It also would not surprise me if Peter Jurkin is much better than a lot of people think and gets in a starting lineup a few times this season, or is the 8th or 9th man off the bench at some point. Sidenote: he’d win every tip, though Zeller does that anyway. Any way you stretch it, IU will be very, very good this year.

  • Geoff_85

    It’s very difficult to judge what the best team is that IU can put on the floor, so I will post lineups that are respective to matchups:

    Small
    PG Ferrell
    SG Hulls
    SF Oladipo
    PF Watford
    C Zeller

    Big
    PG Oladipo
    SG Sheehey
    SF Watford
    PF Zeller
    C Jurkin

    Fast
    PG Ferrell
    SG Oladipo
    SF Sheehey
    PF Watford
    C Zeller

    Defensive
    PG Ferrell
    SG Oladipo
    SF Watford
    PF Zeller
    C Jurkin

    Offensive and/or Run and Gun
    PG Ferrell
    SG Hulls
    SF Oladipo
    PF Watford
    C Zeller

    Quick 3pt
    PG Ferrell
    SG Hulls
    SF Etherington
    PF Watford
    C Zeller

    Starting Lineup and rotation at the Beginning of the Season
    PG Hulls
    SG Oladipo
    SF Sheehey
    PF Watford
    C Zeller

    6. Ferrell 7. Creek 8. Elston 9. Perea 10. Hollowell 11. Abell 12. Jurkin 13. Etherington

    The only reason, and I mean the ONLY reason, that I left Ferrell off of the “Beginning of the Season” lineup is because Coach Crean stays true to his upper classmen. That’s also the reason that I have Hollowell 10th in the rotation because I think he could be 6th or 7th. I hope Elston is 100% and Creek (feasibly) is 80%. I hate putting Etherington 13th, but there is just so much talent on this team that it’s hard to see him getting minutes over some of the freshmen. Having said that, given Coach Crean’s loyalty to his upperclassmen, it would not surprise me if Etherington gets more minutes than Jurkin and Hollowell…maybe even Perea, but in all likelihood he won’t. No way he gets more minutes than Ferrell though. It also would not surprise me if Peter Jurkin is much better than a lot of people think and gets in a starting lineup a few times this season, or is the 8th or 9th man off the bench at some point. Sidenote: he’d win every tip, though Zeller does that anyway. Any way you stretch it, IU will be very, very good this year.

  • http://twitter.com/FORNstar31 Alex 4?knee

    OUR past teams always seemed a bit confused offensively whenever hulls comes out of the game. He will start.

  • INexpat2001

    Ok… I’m over a week late to this post and nobody cares what I have to say, but I’ve been thinking about it all day and feel compelled to go on the record with a prediction on average minutes per game for the season:

    Zeller – 28
    Watford – 28
    Oladipo – 28
    Sheehey – 26
    Hulls – 24

    Yogi – 20
    Elston – 14
    Hollowell – 8
    Creek – 6
    Abell – 6
    Jurkin – 6
    Hanner – 4
    Etherington – 2

    I’ve kept the total to 200 minutes in order to equal the amount for 5 players in an actual game, but looking at the stats from last year the average minutes exceed 200 so I know I’ve understated a few guys’ minutes (probably in order of Hanner, Hollowell and either Creek or Etherington if I had to guess).

    In my view, the big question marks that will impact distribution of minutes are as follows:
    (1) Creeks’s health – a huge unknown right now, and if he can’t go then Hollowell’s and Etherington’s minutes go up;
    (2) Elston’s ability to play consistent defense in the post – if DE can’t defend (in addition to hitting 3s) then the frosh, PJ and HMP, will get more run backing up Cody and C-Wat in the frontcourt;
    (3) Yogi vs Hulls competition at the point – will be fun to watch thru the season, but I think with Remy as a capable backup and defensive role-player along with Oladipo’s (hopefully) improved handle the backcourt minutes will sort themselves out without having to use both Yogi and Hulls at the same time very much, if at all.

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