• sireric

    I think Collin has a bit of a different game compared to Etherington, who I think most of us compare him to. Collin has some flair to his game. I’m seeing some Gordon Hayward which is something I didn’t see with Austin. I am hoping to be pleasantly surprised.

  • jmfriedman

    The kid has strong handles and can score. How he will compete for minutes will be interesting to see, but he can play, no doubt. Nice to see.

  • jmfriedman

    The kid has strong handles and can score. How he will compete for minutes will be interesting to see, but he can play, no doubt. Nice to see.

  • Evansville Hoosier

    I’m hoping Diebler. Hayward was actually pretty athletic. But Hartman would be a great Jon Diebler.

  • WhatsUpKnight

    this is the best i’v seen him look in the videos so far. hopefully he’ll go up in the rankings a bit more.

  • Arch_Puddington

    Sweet stroke, and the ball goes in even when he has a hand in his face. As others have noted, the competition for playing time is going to be fierce in the years to come, but if he can defend at all, he will get his. He will benefit hugely from playing on a team loaded with skilled ballhandlers, slashing wings, and post players. With so many other threats to guard against, a shooter like this will absolutely punish defenses that sag or rotate slowly while worrying about someone else…..

  • N71

    Like Devin Davis, Hartman has been working through injury issues. If he can stay healthy I’d forecast him as #60 +/- in his class versus 100+. Davis sprung back this year and has moved past his back issues. Hartman is looking to have a really good senior year (knock on wood) and should be able to work on the things Coach Crean is looking for. Davis by the way should climb back up and be somewhere in the #40 +/- range using no real science, just years of eagle eye observation. This makes for 2 really good players before they even arrive in Bloomington and fall under the influence of IU’s development programs.

  • I agree with you here… I think it is important that we have different types of players. Collin can really shoot the ball and with a team full of slashers, he will get his opportunity to make some open 3’s. Every team needs a couple 3 point specialists. As far as him being like Gordon Hayward, I don’t see it. I also think Austin E. has far more flair to his game than Collin. I think he will be a great role player for us… but I would really like to see him improve his explosiveness. It seems like he barely gets off the ground when he finishes around the basket… in warm ups I see he can get up a little, but when he is in a live game he seems to rely on his craftiness around the basket instead of going up strong and high FIRST, then adjusting his shot if he has to. Not hating on him at all, just stating my observations.

  • I agree with you here… I think it is important that we have different types of players. Collin can really shoot the ball and with a team full of slashers, he will get his opportunity to make some open 3’s. Every team needs a couple 3 point specialists. As far as him being like Gordon Hayward, I don’t see it. I also think Austin E. has far more flair to his game than Collin. I think he will be a great role player for us… but I would really like to see him improve his explosiveness. It seems like he barely gets off the ground when he finishes around the basket… in warm ups I see he can get up a little, but when he is in a live game he seems to rely on his craftiness around the basket instead of going up strong and high FIRST, then adjusting his shot if he has to. Not hating on him at all, just stating my observations.

  • Robert_Montgomery

    His game appears to have a few facets to it that I wasn’t previously aware of. If this video is truly indicative of the player we are getting next year, Hartman will be a great asset following the departure of Roth. Needs to add some strength, but I love his length and the high release on his jumper.

  • I could see Devin getting into the consensus top 100, but I would be shocked if Hartman gets there before next year. I hope he makes me eat my words, but I don’t know. Regardless, the rankings miss on players all the time… Sheeladipo big time. Not to say their hard work and Crean’s aiding in development didn’t have a lot to do with it… because I think it definitely was a big part.

  • Kid has a very nice looking jumper, high release. One thing I would like to see is being more aggressive and physical. Seems like he doesn’t play with much emotion but that should change once arriving in Btown.

  • southport65

    Besides the shooting he looks very good passing the ball to his team mates.
    Unselfish play makes for good team basketball and that develops into championship
    teams. Coach is bringing IU back to the elites of College basketball so beware other teams because IU will kick your butt!

  • inLinE6

    He’s a lot better than his previous video clips. I said earlier that he doesn’t fit IU but I take it back now. He won’t be a star player at IU but he’ll fit on our squad. He’ll have some play time and become a great role player.

  • inLinE6

    He’s a lot better than his previous video clips. I said earlier that he doesn’t fit IU but I take it back now. He won’t be a star player at IU but he’ll fit on our squad. He’ll have some play time and become a great role player.

  • derbus

    I am seeing some Randy Wittman in his style of play, subtle and focused.

  • twarrior87

    So glad you put these highlights up on Hartman. Can alleviate some of those concerns people have posted about him being part of the 2013 recruiting class. I was more impressed with this clip than any I’ve seen on him before and think Collin will be a valuable 4 year contributor at IU.

  • Pritch24

    One thing I’ve always liked about his game is that he doesn’t miss open shots, and that’s really something that can’t go unnoticed. With all of the ballhandlers and slashers moving in to Btown in the coming years, shooters like him and AE are going to get a chance to have a lot more open looks than Matt Roth ever had, so we need to have guys like this who can take advantage of that and knock ’em down on a very consistent basis i.e. Jon Diebler.

  • Pritch24

    One thing I’ve always liked about his game is that he doesn’t miss open shots, and that’s really something that can’t go unnoticed. With all of the ballhandlers and slashers moving in to Btown in the coming years, shooters like him and AE are going to get a chance to have a lot more open looks than Matt Roth ever had, so we need to have guys like this who can take advantage of that and knock ’em down on a very consistent basis i.e. Jon Diebler.

  • ScoopGeoff

    He dunks with the exact same lift and flare of Noah Vonleh…

  • Naked Samurai

    Looks like a nice package of skills. Good shooting stroke, can handle the ball well for his size, good court vision. I’ve heard his defense is good, but haven’t personally seen. I like this type of player as a nice glue guy who can grow into more as he approaches his junior and senior years. Plus he looks like he might be growing a bit more.

  • HoosierKen73

    Is it just me, or doe he look taller than 6′ 6″? Or maybe everyone else is just short. I was kind of hoping the kid would grow at least an inch before he came to Bloomington… Whitman was only 6′ 5″ wasn’t he? Anyway, he does look pretty good in the clips. I was one that would’ve liked to have Ojeleye or Lee and guess I wish we still could..but who’s to say we will get either one. Just hope we can also get Anya. I do think Collin wll prove to be a great addition…gosh why can’t we just have more schollies available.. like maybe 20 or so…lol…

  • Arch_Puddington

    The explosiveness you are hoping for will not come. I sprinted well enough in high school to set multiple records, and to run in college. I
    have also trained runners and basketball players at the collegiate level
    on speed, agility, and quickness, and it is  clear to me that, as they say,
    sprinters and leapers are born, not made. Training helps at the margins,
    but explosive physical movements are mostly the result of natural muscle composition. A natural abundance of “fast twitch” muscle fibers is what makes some athletes faster or bouncier than others, and there is little one do to improve that trait. Hartmann will have to have to survive with other abilities if he is to compete at the next level. ¬†

  • marcusgresham

    I heard a rumor that Diebler missed once but I sure as hell never saw it.

  • CreamandCrimson

    It’s amazing how much one highlight video (very impressive or underwhelming) can swing the opinion of people. Many people have questioned whether or not Collin Hartman is going to be able to get playing time and have brought up players they would rather have a scholarship for.

    However, based on the small sample of comments posted after this video, people are now comparing Hartman to a Jon Diebler type role player. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

  • CreamandCrimson

    It’s amazing how much one highlight video (very impressive or underwhelming) can swing the opinion of people. Many people have questioned whether or not Collin Hartman is going to be able to get playing time and have brought up players they would rather have a scholarship for.

    However, based on the small sample of comments posted after this video, people are now comparing Hartman to a Jon Diebler type role player. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

  • Thalweg

    I guess all it takes is 1:27 of edited video and everyone changes their tune on this kid. I have liked him all along, but it’s just nuts how all of you flip flop on players like Hartman and say he shouldn’t get a scholarship to now saying he is going to be a great role player. Hold your harsh opinions until you actually see the kid play. Emphasis on kid because that is what he is.

  • hoostheman

    Hahahah. I believe Diebler was at or near the top of the all time scoring list for Ohio high school basketball. Probably best to keep expectations in check. If Hartman is a solid rotation guy then great, we need that too.

  • tbone6004

    I could not care less where his ranking ends up. He has a big frame with wide shoulders. He will definitely add some muscle. I saw him at the Junior Senior game in Pendleton and he appeared taller than 6-6. He already has the outside game and he is physical on defense. He probably needs to work on his mid range game. He will be a 4 year contributor at IU. Quality kid with D-1 talent.

  • jahhoosier

    One of the things Collin does so well is put HIMSELF in position to make the pass. There are different kinds of “court vision,” of course, but Hartman’s ability in this regard seems a little rarer, especially at his age.

    I realize many fans, and seemingly the staff, are very focused on Anya, but I hope no one comes away thinking the 2013 Class is a disappointment, if Anya goes elsewhere. Every championship team needs the kind of players that are already in this class, one through four, and the Class already ensures the 2013-14 team would be filled at every positional need.

  • Arch_Puddington

    A ) To whom are you speaking? Your comment is aimed at “all of you” as though “we” were a single entity. One person admitted to changing his mind, but I suspect most of those who expressed some enthusiasm here had not commented about Hartmann previously.

    B) And if someone has flip-flopped, is that a bad thing? It seems like changing one’s mind in response to new information is an entirely rational, sensible thing to do.

  • SCHoosier

    I think everybody forgets that he’s young..on the other hand…he got an offer before IU’s “earlier than expected success” let the door open to others his age who are more talented and athletic at this stage of their development. I think Hartman has the potential..and in the long run..should be an asset if not dominant player for IU.

  • SCHoosier

    I think everybody forgets that he’s young..on the other hand…he got an offer before IU’s “earlier than expected success” let the door open to others his age who are more talented and athletic at this stage of their development. I think Hartman has the potential..and in the long run..should be an asset if not dominant player for IU.

  • Thalweg

    When I saw all the responses today it upset me because I was just reading two weeks ago how we should drip the kid. My comment was to those that said that we should drop his scholarship or push him to Butler because he would be better suited for them. I just think it is ridiculous for us as the general public to judge a 16-17 year old kid like that. He was offered a scholarship and took the leap of faith to commit to be a Hoosier. I think we (as Hoosier Fans) should support him and not tear him apart when we see one bad video. I just think it is the right thing to do.

    I guess I am happy that people are willing to change their mind about a player, but my anger (maybe a bit misplaced) is towards those that tore him down earlier.

  • I see a lot of Gordon Hayward. He isn’t as athletic as Gordon, but he plays very similar. He is long for a perimeter player and looks to be a damn good shooter. I think he will fit in nicely.

  • FreeAgentID

    Welcome to the Hoosiers Collin!