The Inside the Hall Mailbag: May 18

  • 05/18/2012 9:22 am in

The Inside the Hall Mailbag is a collection of questions tweeted to us via Twitter (@insidethehall ) and sent to us via our Facebook page. Submit your questions and we’ll answer as many as we can. Now, onward … (Photo creditJamie Owens of J. Scott Sports)

@RealAdamJ writes: When do the freshmen arrive on campus and how much time can coaches/strength coaches spend with them?

Alex Bozich: Assuming all of their academics are in order, I would expect the freshman to arrive on campus in time to begin taking classes in the second summer school session, which would be in mid-June. The three players participating in the Indiana-Kentucky All-Star series should arrive in Bloomington shortly after those games conclude.

As for the amount of time coaches and strength coaches can spend with them (and the other returning players), a rule change this year will allow “a maximum of eight hours of athletics activities per week during the summer in which institutional staff members may conduct or supervise. Of that, no more than two hours can involve skill-related instruction, for a maximum of eight weeks.”

In the past, strength coaches were the only staff members allowed to spend one-on-one time with players, so this is a rule change Tom Crean and several other college coaches have expressed excitement about.

@jasonwehlage writes: not sold on hiring coaches because of pipelines rather than acumen of basketball/ personal development…thoughts?

Alex Bozich: While not mentioned by name, this seems to be in reference to the hiring of Kenny Johnson as an assistant coach, who replaced Bennie Seltzer (now the head coach at Samford).

As for Johnson’s “acumen of basketball/personal development,” his background shows coaching experience at Paul VI Catholic and a season at Towson (as an assistant coach) as well as experience in directing Team Takeover, one of the top Nike travel programs in the country. He’s been around the game and Crean has known him for a while as well. He also has a degree in Cell, Molecular Biology and Genetics.

Recruiting, like any business, is heavily dependent on building relationships. Programs across the country hire assistant coaches they feel can help successfully recruit players for this very reason. Given Johnson’s ties to the D.C. area and his former association with Team Takeover, the same program that produced Maurice Creek and Victor Oladipo, it seems like a savvy hire for Indiana that will help them continue to recruit one of the top areas in the country.

@Brice_Bowden writes: do you think every incoming recruit will get regular minutes next year?

Alex Bozich: Regular minutes? No. I would expect playing time for all in some of the non-conference blowout victories, but once the conference portion of the schedule rolls around, the rotation will likely be trimmed.

IU returns seven players who saw regular minutes on a team that went to the Sweet 16. And that doesn’t factor in Maurice Creek, who will warrant serious consideration for minutes if he’s healthy. Even if they went ten or eleven deep regularly, there will be an odd man or two out.

@OGZeman writes: How deep do you think IU will play next year? 10-11?

Alex Bozich: 10 or 11 seems realistic, if Indiana does indeed play at the pace Crean has tweeted about frequently since last season ended.

@Whitey6275 writes: who will be the biggest surprise from the 2012 class next year?

Alex Bozich: I’m not sure there will be a surprise player in this class. Yogi Ferrell is obviously expected to play a major role, so he’s not going to be labeled as a surprise. How often Hanner Perea, Peter Jurkin and Ron Patterson play as freshmen will depend heavily on how much they’re able to improve during the summer and how quickly they’re able to embrace a role. For Perea and Jurkin, that role is post defense and rebounding. For Patterson, it’s getting stronger and continuing to build on what’s currently a strong presence as a defender.

That leaves Jeremy Hollowell, who is going to be a very good offensive player from day one because at 6-foot-8, he’s got guard skills and can also score around the basket. For those who haven’t seen him play much, there could be a bit of surprise in terms of how polished he already is.

@PaulAynilian writes: With the Robinson commit, how many scholly’s are left for 2013 class, and how important is Anya to the class’s success?

Alex Bozich: On paper, no scholarships remain for the 2013 class. But “on paper” assumes that no one leaves early for the NBA Draft after next season. Cody Zeller is obviously on the NBA radar and Victor Oladipo skyrocketed up draft boards after the season. There are also questions about  Maurice Creek: Is he healthy enough to return to the court? Will he use a scholarship beyond this upcoming season? It’s impossible to know if anyone is going to leave or how things turn out with Creek. Scholarships are always going to be viewed by some as a “problem” if IU continues to utilize the oversign, but another way of looking at it is proactively planning for the future in case there’s a transfer, medical issue or early departure.

As for Anya, he’s a big time talent that can lock down the paint as a shot blocking presence, so he would elevate the class from very good to potentially great. But following the highly publicized 2012 class, the 2013 haul is a nice follow up act. Stanford Robinson is a top 50 kid who one national analyst told me is a “tough kid who plays hard and is a winner.” Luke Fischer is a rapidly improving big man that can run the floor and plays the game with a solid base of fundamentals. Devin Davis looks healthy this spring and may be a bit undervalued nationally. And Collin Hartman is a forward who can shoot it and is working to develop a more well-rounded offensive game. This is going to be a very solid class that will only be better if Indiana is able to add Anya.

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  • What’s the difference? These numbers are even more meaningless than preseason rankings. As long as they finish the season with a banner, who cares what the incoming class is ranked… Just sayin

  • What’s the difference? These numbers are even more meaningless than preseason rankings. As long as they finish the season with a banner, who cares what the incoming class is ranked… Just sayin

  • People are saying that just because we can’t get them… yet. No one was upset we got Jared Jeffries. Cody was a potential one-and-done, but I doubt 1 single Hoosier fan objected to his participation on the team. In a few years we’ll be landing a lot of top talent who have potential of leaving after 1 year, and I doubt anyone will object when that happens. 

  • DarkSouth

    I agree on the “policing itself” line.  Similar to how you’re now seeing coaches and ADs seeking to push news about how their school won’t impose transfer limitations (barring tampering, of course).

  • DarkSouth

    Personally, I think it depends on the situation.  One-and-dones in ’13 and ’14 make more sense to me than this season.  Considering we know we’re losing some major pieces (ex: Hulls, Watford) and possibly some keys(say, Zeller and Oladipo), then ’13-’14 season looks like a major rebuilding year when you add in 2 or 3 one-and-dones for this year (and drop several of our current commits). 

    How many guys in this class, which is a bit of a weak national class relatively speaking, really make IU that much better this coming season over what we’ve got.  Really only a guy like Noel strikes me as sure-fire starter.  Is Muhammad more talented than Oladipo on the wing?  Sure.  But is he enough so to disrupt what we’ve got to pursue it?  I’m not so sure. 

    I think there’s a reason Crean didn’t pursue a one-and-done in this class like he has in nearly every other one.  (And before someone mentions Gary Harris, he wasn’t perceived as a one-and-done at the time).

  • Tolly1

    You dont want IU to be good next year? What the heck is that? First of all they will be very good next year. Secondly just because we are good doesnt mean every player has to bolt for the NBA. There are good team basketball players and then there are good individual basketball players. SO Ya I would take our class over UCLA anyday.

  • Evansville Hoosier

    I’ll agree that there aren’t many players this year that would have fit better. Yogi really is the bigges thing we need, assuming he’s the #1 PG, and I think he is.

  • WisconHoosier

    Nuts.  If we can’t snipe at each other with complete disregard for facts, what is the Internet good for?

    This truth-finding nonsense simply has to stop.

  • KraigIU

    But do we know how many of those schools had extra scholarships to use? Obviously Michigan and Purdue had extra scholarships as you can only oversign by one but how many if the others?

  • calbert40

    No.  I could find out, but I really didn’t feel like it.  Lousy excuse, I know.

  • calbert40

    No.  I could find out, but I really didn’t feel like it.  Lousy excuse, I know.

  • calbert40

    No.  I could find out, but I really didn’t feel like it.  Lousy excuse, I know.

  • calbert40

    I exist but to serve the ITH bretheren. 

  • calbert40

    I exist but to serve the ITH bretheren. 

  • calbert40

    I was curious who would go that route.  Surprised it took that long!

  • calbert40

    I was curious who would go that route.  Surprised it took that long!

  • Geoff_85

    The issue with simply saying that Coach Crean took a scholarship BECAUSE of the oversign is the fact that we wouldn’t know if the scholarship was taken to clear room for another player, or if it was for other reasons the coaching staff had…reasons they may not disclose in order to not ruin chances of that recruit going to another team.

  • Kelin Blab

    I think Anya is important to the 2013 class, but lets not forget Luke Fischer, Hanner Perea, and Peter Jurkin will still be around. I would be surprised he didn’t end up being a Hoosier. All the elements are there……

  • 888

    So TRUE!!!!!! CTC has said himself that he wants them. We just dont want to be like UK and have only them.  CTC has said he wants a mixture of one and doners and 3 to 4 year guys. He wants to lock up Indiana and be able to add kids nationally to fill in spots and so on. Some of these people are acting a little hollyer than thou. Trey Lyles will only play 1 year the same as Alexander, Lyles, and Eron Gordon. CTC is recruiting them hard so he must wantthem. We also shouldnt punish a kid for being talented enough to go pro after 1 year and not recruit him. That would be very dumb. These guys would call for CTCs head if he didnt recruit Lyle,Lyles,Alexander,Gordon and the like because they were so talented they could go pro after 1 year. Schools like UK,OSU, and MSU would laugh all the way to the bank.  Wake up fellas. Thats why CTC is coach and were not.

  • 888

    I beleive that starting in 2014 and beyond CTC will start recruiting alot more one and doners. If people have noticed hes slowed down offering players in those year that are not sure fire NBA talent. He knows after this coming years success in the rankings and possible NBA draft the quality of players we will be able to get will skyrocket. Thats not saying that he wont offer a kid his senior year that may fill acertain need but he he wont offer as many kids whos considered a gamblke when they are freshman or sophmores. Collin Hartman comes to mind. He hasnt progressed as much as he should have.

  • 888

    I agree and we also have Trey coming in 2014. hopefully Alexander will come to IU as well. Hes from Chicago and thats maybe a bad thing because of the slimy recruiting that goes on there.

  • stevetodd73

    Simply put this is Indiana and five-star or four star players have to be on a waiting list or a standby to play at Indiana. That is what we are looking for in our program, hence the over sign!
    Congratulations Coach you are a huge success, and thank you for taking us places we did not realize we wanted to be!

  • stevetodd73

    Simply put this is Indiana and five-star or four star players have to be on a waiting list or a standby to play at Indiana. That is what we are looking for in our program, hence the over sign!
    Congratulations Coach you are a huge success, and thank you for taking us places we did not realize we wanted to be!

  • Daburns0

    Something smells afoul at UCLA. Given how bad they were last year and all the crap that went on with their players. There was talk of howland losing his job, and now they have a top 2 recruiting class? Plus most of those commits were recent. There is no way I would have sent a kid there after the stuff that was going on recently. Doesn’t pass the smell test.

  • IUMIKE1

    I also think we will start to get the occasional one & done player to mix in with the slightly lesser talented players in the near future. That coupled with a very complimentary supporting cast will be what gives us our best chance to hang a banner in the near future. Next year’s team, & I love them just as much as anyone else & mean no disrespect, has a good chance to do just that but I don’t think anyone would dispute the fact that if even one of them was for sure a one & done player that are chances to hang a banner next year before CZ leaves would be even better.

    After reading the most recent SI magazine cover story, which is mostly about the high level of importance Parker places on his religious beliefs, coupled with the amount of religious tweets CTC puts out, one would have to think that we have at least somewhat of a chance with him. But then again who am I to say what is going through a kid’s head at that age, religious or not.

  • MillaRed

    “Only in Hollywood”

  • MillaRed

    The difference seems to be the character of recruits we are pursuing. Not to say the UCLA recruits are kids of bad character, just saying I doubt they are of Cody’s. But that is pure speculation.

  • MillaRed

    The difference seems to be the character of recruits we are pursuing. Not to say the UCLA recruits are kids of bad character, just saying I doubt they are of Cody’s. But that is pure speculation.

  • MillaRed

    I’ve already noted in the past I don’t want anyone on this team, to include Matt Roth to go anywhere. I am however a realist.

    I’m not going to villainize our recruiting system under the current circumstances. To say “it doesn’t sit well” IMO is a negative reflection on Tom Crean. Consider my opinion on the matter an act in his defense. That’s all I’m saying.

  • I’ve never paid any attention to ESPN’s recruiting rankings. They didn’t even list IU as a top choice of Stanford Robinson’s until he actually committed. 

  • Our 2013 frontcourt is going to be scary defensive-wise. 

  • SCHoosier

    If you have a team..that with one more player has a chance to be a final four team..then a “one and don’e makes sense. That’
    s the only circumstance I can see where a “one and done’ would come to IU…a one year shot to develop..win a championship and move on.

  • DarkSouth

    Crean did go after Kyrie Irving and seems to have gone after some other one-and-done talent. Just don’t think the situation has been right for both parties yet.

  • NewYorkHoosier

    One thing you have to understand, Casey, is that the oversign is not meant to manipulate current athletes or recruits; It’s meant to give coaches some protection from unforeseen roster changes. Look at it from this perspective:  a coach has reached his LOI limit (and there’s no oversign) but still has a few recruits that are interested in the program. Unfortunately, he cannot sign them and they go elsewhere. After the season, a player decides to transfer and one leaves for the NBA. At this point the coach is thinking that he got screwed over because he could have had these guys had he known that they were leaving or there been some kind of plan B for coaches who lose players for reasons out of there control. Every team experiences transfers and a lot teams have players leave early for the NBA. So yes, every team does indeed do it because they also suffer from some form of player departure (before graduation) at one point or another. This is why it’s not reported widely and is generally a non-issue. It really isn’t a ethical dilemma at all, it just depends how you look at it…