Recruiting Roundup: Nike EYBL Dallas

  • 05/15/2012 10:48 am in

The third of four Elite Youth Basketball League (EYBL) sessions took place over the weekend in Dallas as some of the top Nike travel teams from around the country battle for position in the Peach Jam, Nike’s premier event of the summer.

Here’s a look at how Trey Lyles and several of IU’s recruiting targets performed statistically over the weekend as well as some scouting notes from those in attendance:

· Trey Lyles, Spiece Indy Heat: It was a tough shooting weekend (39.6 percent) for Lyles, but he did finish the weekend with a pair of double digit rebounding games. His average numbers over five games: 9.6 points, 9.0 rebounds, 2.2 assists and a block in 27.4 minutes.

· Trevon Bluiett, Spiece Indy Heat: Bluiett scored in double figures in all five of Spiece Indy Heat’s games and finished the weekend with a scoring average of 17 points. As he continues to diversify his offensive game, his stock should continue to rise nationally.

· Jaquan Lyle, Spiece Indy Heat: Lyle shot the ball extremely well in Dallas (60.9 percent), but his play tapered off in the session’s final two games. He finished the weekend with averages of 8.6 points, 3.2 assists and 1.8 rebounds per game.

· Marcus Lee, California Supreme: In limited minutes (16.6 per game), the talented shot blocker was active on the glass (5.6 rebounds) and put up decent scoring numbers (7.2 points).

· Jordan Mathews, California Supreme: After a very strong weekend in Hampton, Mathews didn’t shoot the ball as well in Dallas (39.1 percent), but still averaged in double figures (12.0 points). The son of UCLA assistant coach Phil Mathews has offers from Colorado, San Diego State, VCU and Wyoming, according to Rivals.

· Semi Ojeleye, Mokan Elite: Olejeye recently trimmed his list to 11 schools and Indiana made the cut. He had a tough weekend from beyond the 3-point line (14.3 percent on 28 attempts), but still managed 16.6 points per game.

· BeeJay Anya, Team Takevover: The top remaining target of Indiana’s 2013 recruiting efforts helped lead Team Takeover to a perfect 5-0 record with averages of 7.8 points, 3.2 rebounds and 2.2 blocks per game.

· Stanford Robinson, Team Takeover: Robinson, who took an unofficial visit to Bloomington on Monday and told us afterward that he has a scholarship offer from IU, shot close to 55 percent from the field in Dallas and scored 13.4 points per game.

Scouting Notes

Eric Bossi of Rivals.com on Ojeleye:

There aren’t many wings in the country with a better build than 6-foot-6 four-star Semi Ojeleye and he’s got tenacity to match his well developed frame. The Ottawa (Kan.) High standout is the main offensive weapon for MoKan’s 17 and under team and he’s programmed to score. His jumper wasn’t falling from deep so he got in the lane and powered his way to the rim for tough conversions.

Evan Daniels of Scout.com ($) touted an improved jump shot from Stanford Robinson and the ability of Trey Lyles to “simply could have scored as many points as he wanted given his physical advantage.”

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  • Jam

    I sure am confused by the recruiting priorities for the next few classes. It seems like the coach is still handing out offers pretty readily.

  • Jam

    I sure am confused by the recruiting priorities for the next few classes. It seems like the coach is still handing out offers pretty readily.

  • INexpat2001

    I’m not sure what to think about the Stanford Robinson offer.  

    I trust CTC wholeheartedly, and I agree with opinions others have expressed that our 2012 scholly crunch must be viewed in light of all the special circumstances surrounding the program the last 3 years, but making offers for 2013 when we are already at the limit gives me pause. 

    I understand the need to prepare for potential departures, including
    Zeller and/or Oladipo testing NBA waters in 2013, but the practice of
    oversigning generally leaves a bad taste in my mouth, and I’m hoping there’s an explanation that I’m overlooking.  

  • Twarrior87

    I’m still confused on BeeJay Anya. I know these games are focused more around perimeter play and not the bigs, but how does a guy that size only average 3.2 rebounds? Is it because there are a lot of long shots which causes the rebounds to be further out from the basket or what?

  • Evansville Hoosier

    The way I’m looking at it, every guy Crean has offered, I’d love to have on the team. Semi, Stanford, Beejay, Marcus Lee, all super talented players. I’m going to trust that coach Crean has experience recruiting, and he’s gonna get who he’s gonna get, and he’ll make sure it works out in the end. I’m just gonna enjoy it.

    I mean, isn’t this better than what we were doing in 2013? Our recruiting in the class was boring… This is fantastic! We have legitimate shots with such high profile, high level guys, and it makes the recruiting circuit SO much more fun to watch over the summer.

    In short… I’m trusting coach Crean.

  • I’m guessing, never having seen Anya’s game, that he’s more of a undersized defensive 4 with length? I just continue to see numbers in almost every game he plays along the lines of 7 points, 4 bds, 2 blocks. That doesnt scream ELITE to me. Everyone will have down games, but is it more “this is who he is”? He’s a short, stocky 4 who can rebound/get put backs/block a shot here and there?

    That doesnt seem to me to mesh with Crean’s new recruiting direction, which is speed, length, athleticism.

  • WisconHoosier

     I think the plan is to put Anya and Jurkin into a Calvin & Hobbes Transmorgifier machine, and have them both come out 6’11 240 lb twins.

  • Jam

    I really am enjoying the current recruiting atmosphere. I just don’t understand what it really means to have an offer. Are the offers conditional or timed out? If we have offers out to 6 or 8 guys, is it first come first served? I certainly trust the coach and I am enjoying it, I just wondered if there were priorities or whether they push some prospects harder than others? 

  • SCHoosier

    Don’t u just love it..Trey has been reported as 6-10..6-9 and 6-8 in articles over the past 10 days. Might was well  not pay any attention to alleged height until they sign the deal and then expect any report to be exaggerated. Geez.

  • SCHoosier

    Don’t u just love it..Trey has been reported as 6-10..6-9 and 6-8 in articles over the past 10 days. Might was well  not pay any attention to alleged height until they sign the deal and then expect any report to be exaggerated. Geez.

  • MillaRed

    Honestly I can’t understand why anyone, at any time, until something unbelievable happens would criticize CTCs recruiting. They do this stuff for a living.

    How many teams passed on Sheeladipo? The key to our Sweet 16 run? Cody is here. The Movement.

    I mean seriously, this is what elite schools do. Get used to it.

  • INexpat2001

    I trust CTC completely when it comes to evaluating talent, and I wouldn’t think of second-guessing the recruitment of a player based on talent or abilities.  But if you think it is inappropriate to express concerns about oversigning just because other elite programs do it, then I disagree. 

  • WisconHoosier

     Just for fun, the 8-10 guys with outstanding IU offers should get together, and at the same time e-mail or tweet acceptances to Crean.  These players all know each other, I can’t believe high school kids haven’t done this yet.

    btw, I think IU would win a national championship with just the 8 players listed in the article above.  We’d need some walk-ons and managers to fill out practice, but Crean’s faced that before.

  • WisconHoosier

     Just for fun, the 8-10 guys with outstanding IU offers should get together, and at the same time e-mail or tweet acceptances to Crean.  These players all know each other, I can’t believe high school kids haven’t done this yet.

    btw, I think IU would win a national championship with just the 8 players listed in the article above.  We’d need some walk-ons and managers to fill out practice, but Crean’s faced that before.

  • Hardwood83

     I agree, I’m enjoying it and confident the outcome will be terrific. On the other hand it’s May- what else is there to discuss, dissect and pontificate about?

  • DarkSouth

    It could be long rebounds.  It could also be partly the shot blocking.  A lot of good shot blockers aren’t great rebounders (and vice versa).  If you’re trying to block shots then you’re usually taking yourself out of position to rebound. 
     
    Playing time could also be a factor, as well as other big men on the roster spliting up rebounds.

  • marcusgresham

    There are people who thought the 2010 recruiting class was boring. They’re not so bad, after all.

  • marcusgresham

    Alex wrote in a previous story that he stood next to him and 6’8″ seems accurate.

  • marcusgresham

    IU football starts in a few mo…oh, OK. Point Hardwood.

  • IUMSREC

    Luckily CTC knows considerably more than you or I, so I think we should trust his judgement.  He seems to have done pretty well so far.

  • Knuckledrager

    If I understand recruiting right, It’s first come first served? If there are 5 scholarships open for a class, coach can offer 500 guys one. As players commit the number of openings go down. With the over-sign of one player he can accept 6 commits. So, the 494 other offers are null and void and the players who want to “enjoy” the “process” of being recruited must do so without a standing offering from IU/CTC. I don’t see anything unethical about. IU/CTC is trying to floor the best team possible. That’s one reason to commit early and not get left out in the cold. First come, first served.   

  • Evansville Hoosier

    People always say that… The reality is that, yes, the 2010 class was not that impressive, rankings wise. But it brought 2 phenomenal athletes, who worked hard enough to make more of themselves. Hartman is a below average athlete, attempting to make up for it with skill. Respectable, but having that athletic edge like Victor and Will have is a big deal.

    Luke could still be a great player, I can see that. And Davis has the athletic ability to be the next Sheehey if he works hard enough.

    All this being said, I never said our recruits were boring in our 2013 class. I said our RECRUITING was boring. We had settled in, decided we weren’t gonna see any new players. That was ok.

    I’m just saying that Crean has now given us something to watch. And to be honest, I’m interested.

  • 888

    Im just gonna trust CTC and thats all. Hes taking our program back to prominance at warp speed. First 3 years were rough but now it seems like everyone wants to be  a HOOSIER. Hes a brilliant motivator and develops talent. Just ask D Wade.

  • 888

    Im just gonna trust CTC and thats all. Hes taking our program back to prominance at warp speed. First 3 years were rough but now it seems like everyone wants to be  a HOOSIER. Hes a brilliant motivator and develops talent. Just ask D Wade.

  • INexpat2001

    Yes, which is why I said “I trust CTC wholeheartedly”.

  • MillaRed

    If oversigning was a problem in college basketball, they wouldn’t have created the rule. All elite programs use it.

    You can dislike it all you want, which is not inappropriate to feel nor express.  Neither is banging your head against a wall. Which is what you may be doing. The oversign isn’t going anywhere. That’s all I am saying.

  • MillaRed

    The only “black box” in this process is what happens when someone is ready to commit. I have a hard time believing priority #1 (Anya) is out of luck when #10 is ready to commit. Either way, it’s not specific to IU basketball, it’s everywhere. But it does make you wonder what really is going down at that point in the game.

  • MisterSlippery

    I love CTC, but I don’t trust him, not after the scholarship garbage this year. And I don’t want to hear from any backstabbers about how we don’t owe Roth anything. You don’t owe your mother a decent burial when she passes away either, right?

  • Kelin Blab

     I am becoming as intrigued by the 2013  class as I am any other IU class. I could care less about an over this year or any other year. As I always say….on Hoosier Hysteria Night no one cares about who transfers or is an oversign….folks enjoy the possibilities or potential.

    Of this list….

    + Trevon Bluiett will help IU because he doesn’t need the ball alot and can be a star or play off a star.

    + Big fan of Semi. College build already.

    + BeeJay Anya is growing on me little by little.

    + Over Jaquan Lyles, really talented not completely wowed by him

    + Trey Lyles is building a Cody Zeller like reputation nationally.

  • Kelin Blab

     Not sure what does this have to do with any of the above EYBL info. Nor what does the scholarship garbage mean? As far as I know we have scholarships for everyone who is on the team…..as we all know these things work themselves out ALWAYS.

  • Kelin Blab

     When did an oversign become a bad thing? It is a scholarship to college, I love the oversign and wish they had two more.

  • Kelin Blab

    From my understanding an offer is made with the understanding of ‘we won’t take a commitment until _____” In the mean time we will recruit you, we are looking at a couple of other guys….when we want a commitment be ready to say yes.

    Hence how they can offer 400 guys but not worry about them all saying yes. I would assume Anya, McKay, would have a scholly and be able to commit whenever….for the 2013 guys.

  • Kelin Blab

    From my understanding an offer is made with the understanding of ‘we won’t take a commitment until _____” In the mean time we will recruit you, we are looking at a couple of other guys….when we want a commitment be ready to say yes.

    Hence how they can offer 400 guys but not worry about them all saying yes. I would assume Anya, McKay, would have a scholly and be able to commit whenever….for the 2013 guys.

  • SGHoosier

    Can we stop with the ” I trust CTC wholeheartedly.. but” statement/inserts?. Its your opinion so why do you need a qualifier?

  • BFBlog

    Stan Robinson = adios to Colin Hartman. Simple really. Math doesn’t change.

    If Hartman truly looks to have not improved much, his offer becomes non-committable.

    Getting Robinson to commit, adding in VO, and the odds Beejay ends up on campus, and CTC gets his Michigan State style bruiser, increase immensely.

  • INexpat2001

    In my view, the problem with
    the oversign is not the scholarship to the 14th player, the problem is
    the scholly offer that is revoked in order to get back down to 13.  I know the
    oversign is within the rules, and I’m not saying it is always a bad
    thing, but the practice of oversigning definitely concerns me.  You may
    be right as you said below that no one will care by the night of Hoosier
    Hysteria, but if roster attrition has to be manipulated on a regular
    basis because of oversigning then I think it is a legitimate issue.  Milla may be right that I’m just banging my head against a wall, but the way in which the scholly numbers “work themselves out” impact people’s perceptions of the program (and rightly in my opinion).     

  • IUJeff

    Roth has graduated with 2 degrees. His time on an athletic scholly has passed. 

    Come back off of the slippery slope. 

  • WisconHoosier

    I’d love to know if there will be a conversation between Hartman and Crean.  If Hartman asked “Coach, a lot of people are saying I’m not good enough to play at IU now.  Is that true?”  My guess is one of these two answers:

    1.  Well, Colin, we discussed how you had to improve to compete in the Big Ten, and the reality is, you haven’t.  So playing time is going to be very hard to get. 

    2.  Colin, you’re coming to IU.  You will be an important part of this team, and we’re all counting on you.  Me, your teammates, everyone.  Now get off the damn Internet, and go shoot three-pointers until you can hit 30 in a row.

  • marcusgresham

    Ah, that makes sense.  I got ya.

  • marcusgresham

    I trust CTC wholeheartedly…but I think I want a Chinese buffet for lunch.

  • BarryNC

    I think CTC uses the offers very strategically for two purposes.  First, he can use them for leverage to get guys to sign.  We’re a bigtime program again and guys want to come here.  Second, some offers are to guys who he knows will not come here for whatever reason.  These offers are to build relationships with players / coaches which he can utilize again at a later time.  Smart guy…

  • Knuckledrager

    Thank you both. Any info I can gain to help define the game I love is appreciated. Recruiting, to me, is the most complicated part of the game. And it is a big part of the college game. Thanks again. Peace (through superior firepower).