Report: Indiana to host Ball State on November 25

The Star Press: Ball State men’s basketball to play IU

The Star Press learned through a Freedom of Information Act request that the Ball State men’s basketball team will play at Indiana University on Nov. 25 in Assembly Hall.

The game time will be determined at a later date by the Big Ten Network.

Indiana will pay Ball State $85,000 in compensation within 60 days after the game.

Indiana athletic director Fred Glass signed the one-game contract on April 12. Former Ball State athletic director Tom Collins signed the contract on April 28. Bernard Hannon, the Ball State associate vice president, business affairs and assistant treasurer, finalized the contract with his signature on May 4.

  • iufan4life10

    I’m glad to see another Indiana school added to the schedule. It would be nice to see the Crossroads Classic event expand in the future and include Evansville, Ball State, Valpo, and Indiana State.

  • iufan4life10

    I’m glad to see another Indiana school added to the schedule. It would be nice to see the Crossroads Classic event expand in the future and include Evansville, Ball State, Valpo, and Indiana State.

  • Evansville Hoosier

    Who’s to say we won’t still add maybe… Indiana State? To our schedule? That would be cool, more in state games. I like this deal. I’ve got family members who are alumni from there

  • Miamihoosier

    I guess it’s cool to learn parts of IU’s schedule from reporters using the ‘Freedom of Information Act” but does anyone else feel kind of weird about knowing how much we are paying to play them, and who signed the contract and when……it kind of has a creepy vibe….I dunno I guess I just have to get use to it…

  • http://www.insidethehall.com/ Alex Bozich

    Not too common to see such details reported, but looking at it as a reporter from the Ball State perspective, perhaps the monetary details are important to document because of their importance to athletic department funding. Other than that, don’t really see a real reason to put it out there.

  • marcusgresham

    Hmmm. My daughter graduates from Ball State in December. Wonder if she can get me tickets?

  • marcusgresham

    Hmmm. My daughter graduates from Ball State in December. Wonder if she can get me tickets?

  • Mr_Howard8h

    I think it’d be nice to play AT schools like Ball State, Valpo, IPFW, etc. because it’d be a great opportunity to raise recognition of the team throughout the state even more, and maybe give fans who normally wouldn’t be able to see IU play a chance to see the Hoosiers.

  • Geoff_85

    I realize I’m way early on this question, but is there a timetable for when we’ll know the entire schedule?

  • Geoff_85

    I realize I’m way early on this question, but is there a timetable for when we’ll know the entire schedule?

  • butlergrad

    Can someone explain why IU is paying Ball State? I don’t understand how the contract process works.

  • http://www.insidethehall.com/ Alex Bozich

    August or September usually.

  • SCHoosier

    Glad to see IU continuing to schedule in state schools for the pre-seaon..and I don’t believe is really unsual for those teams to get compsenated..especially if there is not a home/home series. There was an article recently on how the expanded schedule of in conference games is going to cost small schools money and exposure cause the B-10/SEC teams for example are cutting back the preseason schedule in f-ball and b-ball to accomodate more conference games. I think those in state schools love bringing their kids to Assembly Hall…with a chance to upset the Hoosiers.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KCZUX4SBFXXM2GEHVKTVKOIYTY Aaron

    Agreed. I’m a BSU alum, and IU came to town over winter break my sophomore or freshman year. Killingsworth dominated – haha.
    Anyway… that was one of only two times I’ve ever seen the Hoosiers play in person. It was very cool. We had great free seats. I was rockin’ my old AJ Guyton #25 in the BSU student section.

  • millzy32

    It’d be even cooler if she could get you a chunk of that 85k. Just sayin’.
    Good luck getting tix.
    In the late 80’s with Majerus Ball State had a pretty phenomenal team.

  • millzy32

    It’d be even cooler if she could get you a chunk of that 85k. Just sayin’.
    Good luck getting tix.
    In the late 80’s with Majerus Ball State had a pretty phenomenal team.

  • millzy32

    The Outlaw Bonzi Wells also played there.

  • sully10

    why does IU have to pay them to play?

  • jahhoosier

    Unless it was the desire by Ball State (i.e., for those 850 sweet, electronically-transferred Benjamins), I don’t really get why IU wouldn’t sign this as a home-and-home. And I really cannot imagine that a school such as Ball State would not jump at the chance to have IU at their place.

    Given how the rpi works and the in-state dynamics, a home-and-home with The Cardinals would seem like the perfect arrangement for IU. What are the odds that Ball State would beat either of IU’s next two teams, even in Muncie? Yet, Ball State will not be so low on the rpi, nor so bad, that IU would not get far more from it than a typical non-high major game.

    The last week has brought to the fore the only two things that truly concern me about the current regime: the over-sign and the schedule. With respect to the schedule, I’m beginning to get the sense that either Glass or Crean or both prefer a schedule that is a little weaker than what IU fans are accustomed to. The idea that a pre-season #1 IU has an acceptably difficult schedule when it replaces Kentucky with a non-marquee team, as Coach Crean suggested the other day, is ridiculous to my mind.

    (Yet, ironically, Glass is the one that upgraded the football schedule to a difficulty level that makes no sense to me…the gridiron Hoosiers need every guaranteed win they can get in the non-conference.)

  • HoosierTrav

    I see your point there, but i disagree about us not having an acceptably difficult schedule bc of subtracting UK and adding BSU. Remember we will be playing either Georgetown or UCLA, and most likely Duke or UNC at home. Butler will be considerably better next season as well with the addition of a seasoned high level transfer and fantastic freshman Kellen Dunham

  • http://www.insidethehall.com/ Alex Bozich

    Won’t be Duke in Big Ten-ACC. N.C. State or North Carolina seem to be the most logical as Duke went on the road last year.

  • HoosierTrav

    Is it completely out of the question? I thought that we had been on the road two years in a row.

  • calbert40

    It is feeling of everyone that Duke and IU will both have home games in the challenge. Obviously, they could send Duke on the road again, but even if they did, I doubt we would draw them as Duke is perceived to be down for next season. I still think we get a rematch with NC State or get the marquee matchup with UNC.

  • jahhoosier

    Certainly reasonable minds can disagree about scheduling philosophy.

    After all, Syracuse fans appear to love Jim Boeheim, who would happily populate his non-conference schedule with a combination of middle school teams and community college intramural programs, if he could. Even then, he’d refuse to go on the road. And while all that cold and snow has to have warped Syracuse fans at least a little bit, I imagine most of them are still reasonable people.

    To my mostly reasonable mind, though, IU’s non-con schedule is weak sauce for a potentially #1 team.

    There’s no guarantee IU plays both Georgetown and UCLA in the exempt tournament; it could play just one of the two. And, even if it does, Georgetown is in the same position as Ivy Tech’s South Bend Campus on ESPN’s pre-season top 25, which is to say not on it. As for UCLA, they were only slightly better last year than a team that could have been fielded at Ivy Tech’s South Bend Campus; so, I’ll believe Ben Howland is able to use freshmen to make that team into a top ten caliber squad when I see it.

    Between NC State and UNC, the latter lost a lot to the draft. They won’t be bad but they might not be at their historic level, either.

    So, the truth is that only NC State can be counted on to be truly good out of those four, and IU might not even play them.

    That leaves, what, Butler. Who is also not projected in anybody’s top 25?

    It’s pretty weak sauce to my mind and very certainly by IU’s historic standards.

    Oh, and to your question to Alex, the reason IU went road-road in the Challenge was by IU’s request. It wanted to balance the Challenge with, ironically, the Kentucky game, such that both were not at home or both on the road during the same season.

  • calbert40

    It is feeling of everyone that Duke and IU will both have home games in the challenge. Obviously, they could send Duke on the road again, but even if they did, I doubt we would draw them as Duke is perceived to be down for next season. I still think we get a rematch with NC State or get the marquee matchup with UNC.

  • calbert40

    It is feeling of everyone that Duke and IU will both have home games in the challenge. Obviously, they could send Duke on the road again, but even if they did, I doubt we would draw them as Duke is perceived to be down for next season. I still think we get a rematch with NC State or get the marquee matchup with UNC.

  • calbert40

    It is feeling of everyone that Duke and IU will both have home games in the challenge. Obviously, they could send Duke on the road again, but even if they did, I doubt we would draw them as Duke is perceived to be down for next season. I still think we get a rematch with NC State or get the marquee matchup with UNC.

  • NaplesHoosier

    Its very normal…Helps the small school with their costs for the year. I have read its normal to pay $60K-90K or even more sometimes. Remember a few years ago when we played Fl. Gulf Coast University FGCU? Cup cake stuff but gives IU practice and really helps the small schools $ wise. plus its cool for them to play the top ranked teams. FGCU has played Kansas, Mich St., Ohio State, Butler and that game was actually at FGCU over Christmas :) Lets see, they have also played Marquette when Crean was there so…this is totally normal to do..I think they are called “Pay Games” Alex will know the proper term.

  • Ballboy

    I guess I am ignorant but I don’t understand why IU needs to pay Ball State $85,000 for them to come to Assembly Hall and play. It seems like a great opportunity for Ball State for free.

  • JohnS

    That’s the way it works.

  • DarkSouth

    We requested the 2nd road game to balance future schedules. At that point the Challenge game and IU-UK game were sync’ed so that they’d both be home (or away) in the same season. The request made it so that one of those would always be home and one away. Considering the relative closeness of those games, it could make for two tough road games in very short order.

  • DarkSouth

    We requested the 2nd road game to balance future schedules. At that point the Challenge game and IU-UK game were sync’ed so that they’d both be home (or away) in the same season. The request made it so that one of those would always be home and one away. Considering the relative closeness of those games, it could make for two tough road games in very short order.

  • DarkSouth

    Google “guarantee games basketball” and you’ll get plenty of articles explaining it.

  • marcusgresham

    The problem is the size of the arena. Ball State’s is decent, the new arena in Evansville is good, and so is the Hulman Center, but some of the other ones aren’t that big. Of course, it’s Indiana, so there’s always a high school gym that seats 8000 nearby lol.

  • marcusgresham

    That’s the way it works in those pre-conference games. The little guy gets a check to come and (at least is assumed to) take a beating. That money supports most of the athletic budget. It’s even moreso in football, but it works that way in basketball, too.

  • marcusgresham

    You may be too young to remember the days when Coach Knight’s teams hosted not one, but two “holiday tourneys.”

  • marcusgresham

    You may be too young to remember the days when Coach Knight’s teams hosted not one, but two “holiday tourneys.”

  • marcusgresham

    1990 (I think Majerus left for Utah after the 88-89 season, and Dick Hunsaker was the coach,) Ball State made it to the Sweet 16 and gave UNLV the only good game they really had the entire tournament. Go to youtube and find the Chandler Thompson put-back dunk over Larry Johnson and Stacey Augmon.

  • http://twitter.com/hoosiersmitty HoosierSmitty

    Ball State’s AD was Tom Collins. Too funny. I’m sure those Muncie students enjoyed having an AD whose name doubled as a drink.

  • DJ5

    For what’s worth, Gottfried was quoted by ESPN as saying that NC State will likely be playing at Michigan.

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