The Minute After: VCU

  • 03/17/2012 10:04 pm in

Thoughts on a 63-61 win against VCU:

Caught your breath yet?

What a finish. What a win. What survival.

Things did not look good in the second half for the Hoosiers. VCU’s half-court trapping was eating them alive. The Rams’ bigs would hedge high off of ball screens and Jordan Hulls (five turnovers) couldn’t handle it. Indiana posted a season-high 22 turnovers (34.2 TO%) in this one, and it just about cost them — maybe should have cost them  — the game. The Hoosiers also had issues getting Cody Zeller involved in the offense after halftime, and he was part of the turnover problem tonight as well (four).

But here was the reality of the second half: VCU couldn’t make a bucket. So for all the turnovers the Rams forced on Indiana, all the possessions Indiana wasted, they weren’t able to punch the lead too far out there. Check this: In the last 12:20 of the game, VCU only made three baskets. After scoring a combined 83 points in the first half (42 for VCU, 41 for Indiana), the teams combined for only 41 in the second half (19 for VCU, 22 for Indiana).

But in the last five minutes of this one, Indiana was able to slow it down and get some semblance of an offense together. The Hoosiers went to Zeller. He got to the line twice and made three of four. He hit a jumper. And Victor Oladipo got aggressive. He slashed to the cup for a 3-point play to cut the lead to one after Bradford Burgess missed two free throws. And Oladipo remained aggressive on Indiana’s next possession, snagging a defensive rebound off a VCU missed three and going coast-to-coast. Though his shot was blocked, Will Sheehey found himself in the right place at the right time. The block came right to him on the right baseline. He splashed in a mid-range jumper. It put Indiana up two. It was all the Hoosiers needed.

A Troy Daniels’ 3-pointer missed just before the buzzer — a shot the Rams had built their lead on in this one, but finished just 9-of-30 for the game — and there would be no tip-in, no buzzer beater here.

63-61 Hoosiers. Onwards to the Sweet Sixteen, to Atlanta, to another showdown with the Wildcats.

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+ Christian Watford came up big before half in this one, scoring the last eight points of the first frame for the Hoosiers. He played with fire during that stretch and showed a lot of emotion — which isn’t exactly characteristic of the Alabama native. It was big. VCU had punched the lead out to nine. But Watford’s inspired play insured the Hoosiers were only down one (42-41) at half.

+ Beyond Hulls’ issues with the ball this evening, he also had a poor shooting night after lighting up New Mexico State. Hulls finished just 2-of-7 (1-of-4 from 3-point range) and had only five points. Indiana is going to need everyone against the Wildcats in Atlanta next week, and Hulls will get some time to clear his head and put it behind him.

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  • HoosierByNature

    VCU was 15-3 in the CAA losing to GA St, Drexel and George Mason.  All within 6 pts.  Not bad.  I agree though, that the “havoc” system wouldn’t be the offensive key that unlocks the Big Ten.

  • Bucky

    Aw, Mops, I was hoping you’d ask if there were any recruits there.

    I wonder if there were.  Crean was in Wisconsin recruiting the day after we lost in the B1G tournament.

  • Bucky

    Fischer was 7-9 from the field, 5-9 free throws.  I watched the game, and like his passing and vision.  He understands spacing – where he’s supposed to be, and where his teammates will be.

    Like MillaRed, I noticed that he seems very calm when he plays.  Not aloof, but just prepared and ready to execute the game plan.  Plays within himself. 

    He’s not the next Cody, but when Cody was a junior in high school, he wasn’t the next Cody either.

  • HoosierByNature

    I’m happy to hear this.  Thanks for the scouting report – well done.  I was so pumped when I heard we got this kid and after reading a bit about him.  It’s great to hear the same positive comments from a first hand perspective.

  • Bambi20@IU

     Does anyone know if there is anywhere you can watch the game replayed on tv or the internet? My dad was on a plane and missed the game (truthfully, missing it might have saved his life because he might have had a heart attack watching it in real time). Any info would be appreciated…

  • Mattcoll03

    With all the amazing things that fell in place for IU, and what a great win it was- I am compelled to comment on the officiating: 1.) To go to the monitor to decide whether they missed a foul, where none was called, then misinterpret the rule and manufacture a call where none was made in the first place is absolutley indefensible. 2.) when Jordan Hulls is pushed so hard into the backcourt that he loses his balance, and call him for an over and back is indefensible. 3.) After failing to call 3 (at least) fouls as Cody Z is trying to get the ball above his shoulders, then call a jump ball and hand the possession to VCU is indefensible. There were others, but these 3 stand out- this crew should be banned from future tourney assignments. Go Hoosiers-

  • Kenneth234

    Zero?  How well is he realistically going to be able to recruit moving forward in Big Ten country at Butler.  It was one thing to have hopes coming off of back to back title game runs, but after this last season, he is really selling his abilities short staying at Butler.  I don’t have any hate for Butler, I was pulling for them the last two years as if they were my Hoosiers, but Butler will not be the next Gonzaga.  Not in the heart of Big Ten country.  As i said above, if he would go to Illinois, he would have a shot at some of Indiana’s top players, and have his pick of the talent in Illinois. It just seems like a  perfect fit for him.  I don’t think the Indiana job is going to be open for years to come.  I don’t think Painter or Bray are going anywhere either.  I certainly don’t see him going to a different part of the country either.  I would be shocked if he is looking at any other jobs in the Big Ten.  What is really available, Nebraska or maybe Penn St.?  If he doesn’t capitalize on his success, and cannot get the players to get back, he will be stuck in mid-major obscurity for a long time. 

  • Kenneth234

    I think picking up full court man to man would be a good option next year, I don’t know about trying to do all the trapping.  It is a gemick that teams that have major deficiencies need to rely on, which we will not be.  We will be able to run teams out of the gym regardless.  If we go undefeated in the pre-conference schedule again, they may be a serious threat to win out the rest of the way with the weapons and depth they will have on the sqaud.  Practices will be unbelievable challenge every day for both the first and second units.  That is an advantage that we will have on every team in the country. 

  • cpmichae

    Fair arguments, but I just don’t see him leaving Butler for awhile. Definitely not this next season. Sometimes integrity actually means something to people, and I think that is the case with Stevens.

  • SCHoosier

    good analysis..I’ll say this about Davis..his offensive options have improved. He does shoot the 3..but he also fakes it and goes to the hole..takes a jumper from the side. First game he settled for put-backs and lobs.
    Frankly..cody must develop his face the basket game..Crean finally let him do it and drive last night with good results. The matchups are not great..and foul trouble will be a key. Which ever team’s center spends the most time on the bench..the other team has a major advantage. UK can go on some really scary runs thru TO’s and hot shooting. Lot of brave talk on this post..but IU will have to play the near perfect game and hope the Cats are cold from the 3. then again..UK has played against a defense lately a s good as what IU is now playing.

  • SCHoosier

    good analysis..I’ll say this about Davis..his offensive options have improved. He does shoot the 3..but he also fakes it and goes to the hole..takes a jumper from the side. First game he settled for put-backs and lobs.
    Frankly..cody must develop his face the basket game..Crean finally let him do it and drive last night with good results. The matchups are not great..and foul trouble will be a key. Which ever team’s center spends the most time on the bench..the other team has a major advantage. UK can go on some really scary runs thru TO’s and hot shooting. Lot of brave talk on this post..but IU will have to play the near perfect game and hope the Cats are cold from the 3. then again..UK has played against a defense lately a s good as what IU is now playing.

  •  I hate that rule in college basketball along with the restricted zone under the basket. They keep changing rules in sports, not just basketball, and it is eventually going to ruin the sport.

  • InTheMtns

    I agree with you for the most part. I’m making a guess here, but I think he passed up those looks late in the game because he was 2-7 and had tired legs and just didn’t trust his shot at that point. Maybe as a shooter he should keep firing but I think he was trying to get the ball to someone with a better chance of scoring. Usually when he has an off night his next game is really on, so maybe it will be “bombs away!” against UK (let’s hope!).

  • InTheMtns

    I agree with you for the most part. I’m making a guess here, but I think he passed up those looks late in the game because he was 2-7 and had tired legs and just didn’t trust his shot at that point. Maybe as a shooter he should keep firing but I think he was trying to get the ball to someone with a better chance of scoring. Usually when he has an off night his next game is really on, so maybe it will be “bombs away!” against UK (let’s hope!).

  • InTheMtns

    Well said. I agree completely.

  • jwcasey

    Just locked my tickets in for Friday, S:119 R: 6 – anyone know if this will be friendly territory?

  • Knuckledrager

    There was contact without a doubt. It was with the muscled part of the forearm. It was totally incidental. Wasn’t a  move to back this guy off the plate. Wills hips were pivoting with his arms. When watched at normal speed, the first time I,aaww….back. Had to help mamaw flip the grandkids’s springs and mattresses. The first time I wasn’t sure that there was contact. But, the VCU player, who had just got a foul called on him, was grimacing and reacting like he had just got hit in the mouth. Stop play and review. The call, with the flagrant 1 it took the ball away from IU, and let VCU go to the foul line for 2 and give them the ball, but the personal foul stays on the VCU player. A possible 8 point turn around. Without call, a non shooting foul, but, with possession of the ball. With call of F1, change of possession, off setting fouls, tech + personal, very unusual call, has to be continuation of play. 2 shots from the line. And, ball out of bounds. Huge call. Far reaching impacts. A lot of collateral damage. This call is a game changer. Possibility of OSCAR nods. But, with the enthuses on the terminology change and the induction of the F1 and the F2 calls, all in all, it was a “correct call.” Sucks balls call but, the correct one. One the hardest blows that can be delivered is an elbow blow. Career ending, life ending blows, possibly. If a cheek bone gets cracked, it takes a hard blow. The orbit of the eye is much more devastating and much easier to break. An elbow, or knuckle is the perfect tool. If one of these possibilities can be reduced or nearly eliminated, great. I’m all for it. But the letter of the law shouldn’t be adhered if it’s not justly applied. That’s where the refs come in. All that they can do is their best. “IT WAS A GREAT GAME”. nuff said. Peace on you all.                   

  • IUJeff

    I hope he was just tired. We’ll need Jordy firing on all cylinders to beat UK. 

  • Kenneth234

    I like the restricted zone under the basket.  However, I do admit that the officials have focused far too much on it rather than body position of the defender.  This first year it seems that we have been forced to trade off the bad charging calls under the basket for bad charging calls when the defender is leaning or stil sliding into postion.  I don’t know what the right fix is for it.  Maybe the NCAA needs to have an off court official replaying such calls, in the case of which a players feet are on or in the circle and the charge was called, they can stop the action and bring the floor officials over to have a quick look at it.  I actually wouldn’t mind having an additional official on the floor.  Too many teams (ex.  VCU, Michigan, Wisconsin) get away with too much contact that should be cleaned up by the officiating. 

  • InTheMtns

    I agree!

  • Gary

    Try the MSU game today. Almost exactly the same situation was reviewed and refs decided no flagrant!

  • Captfadeaway

     Bambi, you can access replays of every tournament game at this link: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball#. There’s a $4 charge, but it’s well worth it.

  • walton

     heard that at church he doesn’t sit but paces back and forth in the back. lol.

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    You still use a VCR to record?  I thought those things went the way of
    the 8 track . . . or are we just assuming pUKies are still stuck in the
    80’s cause they can’t read about new technology?

  • SS8941

    If Verdell Jones played and had the same performance as Jordy did, you people would be all over him and calling for his benching.

  • SS8941

    If Verdell Jones played and had the same performance as Jordy did, you people would be all over him and calling for his benching.

  • marcusgresham

    The restricted zone is idiotic.  Why can’t a guy guard the basket under the basket?    That’s like making you stand 3 feet away from the urinal and try not to pee on the floor.

  • marcusgresham

    The restricted zone is idiotic.  Why can’t a guy guard the basket under the basket?    That’s like making you stand 3 feet away from the urinal and try not to pee on the floor.

  • marcusgresham

    Oh, it’s Atlanta—–those blue-clad numbnuts will be all over that arena.

  • marcusgresham

    Pekin?  You probably watched my “little” cousin play this season.  Hope I get to watch her at Ball St. next year.

  • IU_Alum96

    Big Ten Network usually shows a reply of the game or try CBS Sports Network.

  • Outoftheloop

    That is both an insulting and a stupid comment. My opinions are like fine wine-unique and rare. Only a very simple mind believes in the myth of “you people”. Just where do they live?

  • InTheMtns

    I can’t speak for anyone else in the “you people” group, but I can promise you, that had he had the same performance, I would not be all over Verdell or call for his benching. I’ve never done either in the past with any player and wouldn’t start now. Perception is everything and you are entitled to your opinion of Jordy. I was just trying to suggest that maybe you’ve misjudged his toughness. I agree completely with your last sentence about expecting him to come out firing and making against UK. 

  • Kenneth234

    I say this, If Verdell Jones ever shot the ball the way Jordan Hulls does in most games, then he would certainly get a lot more passes from all of his critics, including me.  The problem is that VJlll has not shot anywhere close to that, but he has certainly had 5 TO’s in a game, under far less defensive pressure than what VCU was putting on Jordan Hulls.  That is just the facts. 

  • HoosierHawz

    It actually happened in an earlier game on Thurs.  A guy did the same thing Sheehey did and hit the guys nose.  He actually drew blood and they went to the screen, but did not call the flagrant foul.  They deemed it a basketball move.  Sheehey didnt even stick his elbows out.  Horrable rule.

  • plane1972

    While I appreciate the urinal analogy, I have to disagree with you, gresh. If you attack the basket, where are you likely to land? Somewhere in the restricted zone. A guy has to have a small area to safely land if he goes to the bucket. If you are going to make a play on a guy attacking the basket, you have to do it before he gets to that area. I like this rule.

    Hate the new flagrant foul rule, though. A guy should be able to get in your grill on defense, but the offensive guy should have the right to position himself to make a move in return. Officials can still judge if the offensive guy made an honest move or a dirty one. Nothing is completely objective in officiating.

  • HoosierHawz

    I agree on the time.  If they are going to do these reviews then it should count as one of the tv timeouts and ones the tv timeout is done they have to have an answer.  That was a big advantage to VCU cause they could rest after playing that kind of defence.

  • plane1972

    Remy was pretty shaky there and I commend coach for sitting him then bringing him back. He played some tough minutes, but this game showed how valuable Verdell is to this team. Ball handling would have been nice, but his mid-range game would have come in handy. Glad we have Remy, though. Tough tough kid.

    Man, CTC got into Jordy at that timeout. Never saw that before.

  • plane1972

    Yeah, Smitty and I were on SI.com arguing with some VCU fans about how their press dictated the tempo against Wichita State but it would not against IU. They were adamant IU would fold under the pressure, but it was the half-court defense that created most of the turnovers, not the press.

  • plane1972

    The great thing about this game is the pressure is square on UK’s shoulders. IU has already exceeded everyone’s expectations, except the team’s own expectations. They believe! You heard it in Verdell’s senior day speech about hanging a 6th banner. It may or may not happen, but Calipari has the weight of the world (and the UK Nation) on his back to win this year. It is expected that they win. We’ll see if these young guys can handle that, or not.

  • plane1972

    I’m with SS on this one. I may not refer to you knuckleheads as “you people”, but I get his point. Verdell is missed.

  • plane1972

    I think Shaka waits for a better gig. Illinois is a big-time job, no doubt. However, It is hard to coach at Illinois if you don’t land Chicago talent, and Chicago talent is hard to land without committing recruiting violations. He will have to recruit nationally, which I know he can do, but also weather the criticism of not landing the elite Chicago talent with its hefty price tag. Bill Self was able to do it, but Weber was not. We shall see how it all plays out.

  • Robert_Montgomery

    Great story.  Definitely one you and your child will be able to share for years and years.

  • Hoosier89

    There was no elbow contact. His forearm grazed his face.

    With this precedent of watching replays and calling something not originally called on the floor, are officials going to start rewatching whole games and awarding free throws accordingly?

    If play is not stopped originally by the officials then they should not be able to go back and review it.