What to Expect: Howard

  • 12/19/2011 7:09 am in

Fresh off a grind-it-out win over Notre Dame at Conseco Fieldhouse on Saturday, Indiana returns to Assembly Hall tonight for a meeting with the Howard Bison. The game will be shown on the Big Ten Network (Gus Johnson/Quinn Buckner) and broadcast on the IU radio network (Sirius 128/XM 190):

Before the Hoosiers hit the road in nine days for East Lansing, two games await in Assembly Hall to finish out the pre-conference schedule. And according to both the Ratings Percentage Index (RPI) and KenPom.com, the opponents are the two weakest on the entire schedule.

Through Saturday’s games, Howard, a member of the Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference ranks No. 333 in the RPI and No. 302 in the Pomeroy Ratings out of 345 Division I teams. The Bison (3-8) have not won a road game since Jan. 18, 2010 and are coming off a 21-point loss at Oregon State last Thursday.

A LOOK AT THE POMEROY NUMBERS

Howard is simply outmatched against an Indiana team that will be looking to get back on track following a subpar offensive performance  in Conseco Fieldhouse. Only two teams in Division I are sending their opponents to the free throw line at a higher rate than the Bison and not many teams are turning it over with more frequency, either.

It’s tough to pinpoint a single area where Howard could give the Hoosiers trouble. Their profile is that bad despite losing some close games. This should be a solid opportunity for Tom Crean to work on putting in some new sets and also dip into the bench a little deeper to get some guys like Austin Etherington, Daniel Moore, Matt Roth, Remy Abell and Tom Pritchard some solid run once the game is in hand.

MEET THE BISON

Kevin Nickelberry’s team has five players averaging between 9.3 and 11 points per game, but not one of them boasts a KenPom offensive rating over 100. For some perspective, only Tom Pritchard and Verdell Jones are below 100 in that category on the entire Indiana roster.

Simuel Frazier, a 5-foot-11 freshman, is using the second most Bison possessions and his 10.8 points per game are fifth on the team. His effective field goal percentage (52.6) is by far the best among the regulars in the back court. Frazier will likely be joined in the lineup by 6-foot-5 freshman Prince Okoroh, who is shooting close to 55 percent on two’s but just 4-of-19 from behind the 3-point line.

Senior guard Glen Andrews, a transfer for Tulsa, started in his first game on Thursday at Oregon, but shot just 3-of-13.

A player the Hoosiers will need to keep a body on, particularly on the glass, is Mike Phillips. The 6-foot-7 junior is third on the Bison in scoring (10.5) and first in rebounding (7.7).

QUICK FACTS ON HOWARD

All-time series: Indiana leads 1-0
Location: Washington, D.C.
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  • Miles Noe

    Ill be there tonight, and hoping to see some of the reserves getting some PT as well.  Howard did play Gtown pretty close for a good part of their game I believe though!

  • Miles Noe

    Ill be there tonight, and hoping to see some of the reserves getting some PT as well.  Howard did play Gtown pretty close for a good part of their game I believe though!

  • SwearONU

    For those of us stuck at home, make sure the Hall is LOOOOOUUDD tonight!  Go Hoosiers!!

  • Anonymous

    Raise your hand if you think “Howard Bison” sounds like some sit-com family’s wacky neighbor.

  • Anonymous

    Judging from the numbers, this is still an opportunity to work on defensive rebounding and reducing our tendency to foul.

  • Anonymous

    90-62 ?

  • HoosierDadE

    This game has the same feelings as the Stetson game…sloppy first half before IU hits the gas.  Hopefully CTC can open up the bench a bit in the 2nd half…

    So much so, I’m thining bout taking a seat next to Kory and Raphael hoping to sneak into the game.  I’ll be the 27 year old rocking the Calbert Cheaney jersey.  I will also be easy to spot because I might make it up and down the court 3 times before I call a timeout for myself.

    Happy Holidays ITH nation!

  • HoosierDadE

    I tell you what Marcus…

    I turn in every Wednesday night on ABC to watch what crazy adventures that Howard Bison is getting into

  • HoosierDadE

    I tell you what Marcus…

    I turn in every Wednesday night on ABC to watch what crazy adventures that Howard Bison is getting into

  • Anonymous

    Not much to say, we should destroy them.

    That said, 6 weeks or so ago I ended up partying around the edge of Howard’s campus. Not sure I paid for a drink and almost ended up in a video for a local rapper thanks to two girls I was visiting.  For that alone I hope it’s not too ugly tonight.   

  • Jmfriedman

    I am gonna call it – IU gets over the century mark tonight…..

  • Jmfriedman

    I am gonna call it – IU gets over the century mark tonight…..

  • rickmahorn

    this could be the game that some of the bench guys that people have been clamoring for – AE and Remy get some serious minutes in the second half and test the cheerleading skills of some of the starters.

  • stonaroni

    For the sake of not mentally losing Roth, AE, Remy, and TP for the season, CTC needs to see to it that these guys get ample minutes in this game.  All of these guys outside of TP should have played more against ND.  We were flat all night, even JH.  CZ was the most consistent.  These guys have scholly’s for a reason.  No they are not expected to be starts but they have a game good enough to earn a full ride from the head coach.  If they are not good enough to play when the team is flat or you are up 10 to 15 points, don’t recruit them.  Giving garbage minutes makes no one better.  Nor does it make the scholly guys happy because they now feel like second class citizens.

    The benchwarmers should be commended for the 10-0 start as well.  Their abilities help push this team in practice everyday and play the scout offenses/defenses to get the team ready.  Their efforts in practice need to be rewarded.

    There is no need to see them play in the second half.  They need to play in the first half.

    I would bring AE and Remy off the bench with 12 min left in first half and give them a 5 to 6 minute run with CZ, Hulls, and VO or CW so CTC can see what they do in the flow with a few starters on the floor.

    We are playing Howard, a team that didn’t recruit guys like Remy or AE because they are too good to go there, which lends credence on why these guys should play early.

    I also do not want to see Barnett, and Howard and Smith coming off the bench at any point.

    Let DM, Remy, Roth, AE and TP/DE play during garbage time, not the walk-ons.

    Also, if the starters cannot build a lead against Howard, they do not deserve to be in the game.  Bench VJIII if he plays like a D-III guard and play Remy.  IF WS comes off the bench and looks rusty, put AE in.  If VO is not active enough, make a change.

    I am glad we got the W Sat night and am very pleased that this team is 10-0, but sometimes you have to prove a point to some of the starters when they are not mentally prepared to play.  Some of that falls on CTC, but I believe he is really pushing this team and doing well with that.  The players play though and I saw lethargy Sat night.

    CTC needs to take a stand tonight and make sure these players bring it every night.

    Finals week can be a drain, but when they are done, you feel like a dog that just got out of the pound and you are geeked up to do anything but school work.  These guys should have brought the house down against ND, a rival type of game, in an NBA arena. Instead we saw too many guys going through the motions.

    The Big 10 will be a grind and we need every player to be ready whether you are #1 or #12 on the depth chart.

  • stonaroni

    For the sake of not mentally losing Roth, AE, Remy, and TP for the season, CTC needs to see to it that these guys get ample minutes in this game.  All of these guys outside of TP should have played more against ND.  We were flat all night, even JH.  CZ was the most consistent.  These guys have scholly’s for a reason.  No they are not expected to be starts but they have a game good enough to earn a full ride from the head coach.  If they are not good enough to play when the team is flat or you are up 10 to 15 points, don’t recruit them.  Giving garbage minutes makes no one better.  Nor does it make the scholly guys happy because they now feel like second class citizens.

    The benchwarmers should be commended for the 10-0 start as well.  Their abilities help push this team in practice everyday and play the scout offenses/defenses to get the team ready.  Their efforts in practice need to be rewarded.

    There is no need to see them play in the second half.  They need to play in the first half.

    I would bring AE and Remy off the bench with 12 min left in first half and give them a 5 to 6 minute run with CZ, Hulls, and VO or CW so CTC can see what they do in the flow with a few starters on the floor.

    We are playing Howard, a team that didn’t recruit guys like Remy or AE because they are too good to go there, which lends credence on why these guys should play early.

    I also do not want to see Barnett, and Howard and Smith coming off the bench at any point.

    Let DM, Remy, Roth, AE and TP/DE play during garbage time, not the walk-ons.

    Also, if the starters cannot build a lead against Howard, they do not deserve to be in the game.  Bench VJIII if he plays like a D-III guard and play Remy.  IF WS comes off the bench and looks rusty, put AE in.  If VO is not active enough, make a change.

    I am glad we got the W Sat night and am very pleased that this team is 10-0, but sometimes you have to prove a point to some of the starters when they are not mentally prepared to play.  Some of that falls on CTC, but I believe he is really pushing this team and doing well with that.  The players play though and I saw lethargy Sat night.

    CTC needs to take a stand tonight and make sure these players bring it every night.

    Finals week can be a drain, but when they are done, you feel like a dog that just got out of the pound and you are geeked up to do anything but school work.  These guys should have brought the house down against ND, a rival type of game, in an NBA arena. Instead we saw too many guys going through the motions.

    The Big 10 will be a grind and we need every player to be ready whether you are #1 or #12 on the depth chart.

  • stonaroni

    First half, they need to play in the flow of the offense.

  • happyholidayscodyzeller

    I would have loved to seen everyones reaction to a loss to ND if CTC put in the reserves and it didnt work out…just sayin….

  • stonaroni

    I get your view, but how do you know Remy doesn’t play 20 minutes score 10 points and have 4 reb and 3 asst?

    How do you know that AE doesn’t make 3 or 5 shots in 15 minutes including 2 for 3 from 3pt range, feed Zeller like he has done in AAU ball for the past 2 years and grab a few boards?

    You don’t because neither have gotten more than about 11 minutes in a game this year. And 90% of their minutes come in the last 5 minutes of a game when we are up by 27.

    VJII was bad.  WS didn’t look very impressive.  The shooting between WS and CW was very poor.  No one was shooting many 3’s.  Give AE 8 of the 4 for 21 shooting done by CW, VJIII and WS and I bet he makes 3 of them, maybe more.  CW only had 2 reb, I think AE would get at least that many.  Remy would be better than 1 for 5 like VJIII was.

    Also, Butler beat Purdue.  AE and Remy would get a lot of minutes at Butler.  They would get a lot if they played at ND.  So if we are playing trams at that level, then AE and Remy should play.  That is rtheir level of talent where they do not hurt the team.

  • So_Cal_Hoosier

    I definitely agree with you that some of our bench players need to see more playing time. Especially against the teams that we are blowing out (hopefully like tonight). BUT I also think it is a lot to ask two freshmen to come in to do what our starters (who have a 10-0 record so far) can’t against a fairly experienced team like Notre Dame. 

    The Notre Dame game was pegged by many as a “trap game” and a lot of people on this board wrote to expect a possible upset or letdown after the Kentucky game. I think CTC did the right thing by leaving in the starters that he had started all season to show them what it’s like to play after winning a huge game like UK. Hopefully they will be better prepared against lesser teams next time after we beat MSU and Ohio State. 

    I also have to disagree with your train of thought in putting in our bench players to match up against our opponent’s level of talent (Butler -> Purdue -> ND etc). AE and Remy knew what they were signing up for, which is being freshmen on a team with talented players that are more experienced than them. My high school coach told the underclassmen that you don’t earn minutes on the court during games, you earn minutes during practices.

  • So_Cal_Hoosier

    I definitely agree with you that some of our bench players need to see more playing time. Especially against the teams that we are blowing out (hopefully like tonight). BUT I also think it is a lot to ask two freshmen to come in to do what our starters (who have a 10-0 record so far) can’t against a fairly experienced team like Notre Dame. 

    The Notre Dame game was pegged by many as a “trap game” and a lot of people on this board wrote to expect a possible upset or letdown after the Kentucky game. I think CTC did the right thing by leaving in the starters that he had started all season to show them what it’s like to play after winning a huge game like UK. Hopefully they will be better prepared against lesser teams next time after we beat MSU and Ohio State. 

    I also have to disagree with your train of thought in putting in our bench players to match up against our opponent’s level of talent (Butler -> Purdue -> ND etc). AE and Remy knew what they were signing up for, which is being freshmen on a team with talented players that are more experienced than them. My high school coach told the underclassmen that you don’t earn minutes on the court during games, you earn minutes during practices.

  • Guest

    Don’t forget that despite not playing a whole lot, Remy had 3 fouls.  And, AE has been a little slow on defense when he has gotten minutes this year.  Let’s trust Crean because he sees a whole lot more than we ever could and will play them when they are each ready. 

  • stonaroni

    I am not expecting the FR to come in and do what the starters do game in, game out.  But when CW and VJIII are 3-14 and the WS is 1-7, I say the FR coming off the bench will be able to duplicate the shooting.  CW had 2 reb, Remy did that in 7 min.  WS had 9 reb which is good, but how many would AE have if he played for 15 min?

    AE and Remy knew what they were getting into, that is not being argued.  What I am saying is they are good enough to play against Butler and ND and for more than a few minutes if or when the starters are struggling or playing uninspired.

    I understand where you stay with the starters, but I never coached that way.  If you are a starter and you are not playing hard or inspired basketball, then the nexy guy goes in.  That will get the attention of the starter real quick.  When the starter re-enters the game, he is always more inspired and giving more effort.  What makes the starter any better than his back up if they are not mentally in the game? Nothing, because that bench guy is dieing to see the floor.

    That is what being a “team” is all about and as a coach that is how you handle a “team” when they are not giving the effort necessary to win or execute at the level necessary to wear the jersey.

  • stonaroni

    Let’s not forget that VJIII played 33 minutes, was 1-5 from the floor and got eaten alive as usual on D.

    AE has been a bit slow, but his sample size means merely nothing to me since he never plays with any regulars.  I see WS get beaten on D quite a bit.  I like his energy and that he wants to guard the other team’s better players but it doesn’t mean he is an above avg defender right now.  I see a lot, and I mean a lot of poor help side D and man to man D from certain players on this team on a consistent basis.  I want to see more AE and Remy so we know what they can do so we can get it done in the BIG 10 when a few players do not show up. 

    DM and Roth will not be big or strong enough in the Big 10, Remy and AE are.

    Conceivably these guys are #9 and #10 on the depth chart or could be in Big 10 play.  If VO and WS are in foul trouble and VJIII is cold than we need Remy and AE.

  • I would like to see Elston crash the boards and play like the 6’9″ he is supposed to be…Pritch plays hard but his offensive game has left him since his freshman yr…Elston needs to step up these two games or it will by just like the KU game for the rest of the Big ten season….

    Would love to see Will out there more.  I just have the feeling that he is on the cusp of exploding and being another go to guy late in the game….

  • WALT

    Starting to think like some other posters on this excellent site.  Did not have computer sat., but wanted to write about Austin Etherington.  It seems that much earlier, all I heard was what a great recruiter and cheerleader he was for IU basketball. Is something wrong at practices, studies that he has turned CTC against him? A few others could have seen some playing time too. Definitely want to know what has happened with
    Austin?

  • WALT

    Starting to think like some other posters on this excellent site.  Did not have computer sat., but wanted to write about Austin Etherington.  It seems that much earlier, all I heard was what a great recruiter and cheerleader he was for IU basketball. Is something wrong at practices, studies that he has turned CTC against him? A few others could have seen some playing time too. Definitely want to know what has happened with
    Austin?

  • Anonymous

    I’m gonna call that IU hits more than the 7 threes attempted Saturday (and maybe in the 1st half alone.)

  • Anonymous

    I wouldn’t worry too much about what’s happened to him at this point.  He’s just an 18 year-old (I assume 18, possibly 19) freshman 10 games into his career sitting behind relatively talented guys who are a year or two older than he is.  When he’s played he’s made some really good plays and he’s made a few that were less than stellar—pretty much what you’d expect from a freshman.

    As for being a great cheerleader and recruiter, he was as important as anyone in getting other players on the bandwagon and when I’ve seen him on the bench he’s appeared to me to be as excited and supportive as possible of his teammates.

    He’s got a long way to go, don’t get too worked up yet.

  • jcopey

    Let’s cause Howard to turn the ball over 20+ times tonight, and the rest will take care of itself.  Looks like they are horrid at ball control.

  • jcopey

    Let’s cause Howard to turn the ball over 20+ times tonight, and the rest will take care of itself.  Looks like they are horrid at ball control.

  • Anonymous

    Agree. Im just glad we dont have to rely on our freshmen this year to win games. Except CZ of course.

  • Bleeding Crimson

    I say just empty the bench at the first TV time out, just so the starters show their games started, and see what happens.
    IU moved up from 18 to 17 in the AP Poll.
    Go Hoosiers.

  • WALT

    Agree with you marcus, in the Notre Dame game would have been good whenVJ III was struggling to see Austin in the game. That is just an example, do not know who AE backs up.  Remy got in did good job, would have liked AE to have equal time.  

  • WALT

    Agree with you marcus, in the Notre Dame game would have been good whenVJ III was struggling to see Austin in the game. That is just an example, do not know who AE backs up.  Remy got in did good job, would have liked AE to have equal time.  

  • stonaroni

    I feel it would be better to mix in the bench with a few starters similar to what we may see in big 10 play.

  • stonaroni

    AE backs up WS more than anyone, but WS was struggling too.  AE could back up VJIII though if CTC went with JH, VO, AE at #3 CW and CZ.

    I do not care what talent we have on this team, the FR have to develop and get experience when we are winning games.  WS sat a lot up to this point last year and then finally he got some more minutes in Big 10 play.  When DE seemed hurt and Mo went down WS got more minutes.

    What if VO or WS gets hurt?  What if we experience foul trouble on the road in the Big 10 at Iowa and CZ, CW and WS have 2 fouls each with 11 min to go in the first half?  Do we think AE or Remy cannot play 15 min in a game and still have us win?

    In that same scenario I can tell you that DM and Roth would be undersized and over matched, yet AE and Remy would fit right in.

    WALT, when VJIII was playing poorly against ND, he should be benched, that is the glory of having depth.

  • WALT

    Stonaroni, that is what I was trying to say.  You were just a bit more eloquent in your delivery than myself.

  • Anonymous

    I think I like how Coach Crean is handling these guys. You just don’t put people at a specfic time during a game. It’s situational, just relax and learn kid.

  • WALT

    Hoosiered, not replying for Stonaroni, but I think it is situational as you say.  May be mistaken, but think you will see what we are talking about in tonights game. Think CTC will see it as a situation also.

  • CreanFaithful

    I trust the guy who watches them in practice everyday.  Every game is an opportunity for the guys in our regular rotation to gel and work on chemistry.  This has to be one of the more ridiculous criticisms of Crean I have seen to date.  Would love to see Remy get some more minutes, but not prepared to say that Crean is making mistakes if he doesn’t. 

  • Anonymous

    Looks like we were both right