Jeff Goodman of CBS Sports weighs-in on future at IU

  • 10/26/2011 7:05 am in

CBSSports.com: Crean’s success dictates potential IU-Stevens marriage

Indiana will be improved this season. No, they won’t win 20 games and I’d be shocked if the Hoosiers make the NCAA tournament. They’ll probably make an appearance in one of those irrelevant postseason events such as the CBI or CollegeInsider.com, maybe even the NIT.

But Crean and his staff are taking steps — both on and off the court. Indiana should win 16 or so games, which will be enough to keep the rabid Hoosiers fans in check for another year.

That’s when IU basketball should return to the national landscape, possibly even a mainstay in the Top 25.

Then everyone will forget about the potential marriage of Stevens and Indiana that many whisper about in these parts.

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  • It’s Stevens. Not Stephens.

  • SeattleHoosier

    Interesting that the full article positions Sheehey as a potential all-league guy.  Big fan of Will’s but perhaps I’ve underestimated him (or the author is a bit off?).

  • Anonymous

    I hear that.  UK had 2 1st round picks on the roster when their new coach came on, not to mention he brought in his commits from Memphis.  Which I believe is no longer allowed. 
    I think IU’s future success will be even sweeter because they way it is being done.

  • MillaRed

    I know its up for debate in terms of right/wrong good/bad whatever. But I won’t even begin to think about the next IU coach until 2013. I think that’s the REAL first year he has everything he wants.

    Really don’t care if it’s fair. Fact is, that much talent can win games alone. Coaching will be easier, rotations deeper and the team more confident.

    If he can’t do well with that set of players, we can talk, But until then, talking about his successor is a big waste of my time. Go get em Tommy.

  • MillaRed

    No offense Mike, but this is either a trick question or you have been living at The North Pole since 2007.

  • MillaRed

    Let’s have this conversation in 5 years. Mark your calendar.

  • MillaRed

    Strange, I thought he showed more drive and grit than anyone but VO. But that’s just me.

  • Anonymous

    There’s an awful lot of bulletin board material in this story for a few guys on the team, including Crean to an extent.  I love Crean and our team, and I’d love to see a guy like this eat his words on some of his predictions.  (Hulls, Verdell, Christian….16 wins?….are you guys getting this?)

  • Anonymous

    I think Stevens is a great coach.  I think Crean is a very good recruiter and he still has some proving to do on the coaching side.  Someone else made a nice point and said that Stevens may have a hard time recruiting at the next level aka Big Ten/ACC because he won’t get the NBA types (fair assessment).

    We won the Cody battle with Crean as our guy.  Talent can overcome a lot of things.  Saying that Cody was the best player on the floor as a freshman at the Hysteria is a big deal.  We need talent and more is on the way.

    This year should be a huge improvement year.  Zeller and Watford with Hulls and some sprinklings of Sheehey and Oladipo should make this a decent season.  I expect no less than 8 Big Ten wins out of 18 and no less than 18 wins overall but it should be 20. 

    This team has the talent to compete this year.  No more excuses just get the job done.  Can Crean do it?  I hope so.  My full faith is with him this year.  Stevens is the hot coach right now.  Will he succeed at a higher level school?  I think he will.  Will it be IU?  Only if Crean flops and I hope that he doesn’t.

  • Anonymous

    PS   If Crean does flop which again I pray does not happen then I also hope that Stevens is still available and willing.

    Best case scenario they both go on to greatness and IU and wherever Stevens ends up challenge each other year after year for Titles.

  • Amen brother – would rather do things the right way and win with heart and determination.   I also tell folks in KY (I work in KY, and I catch ALOT of grief for being an IU fan) that when you rebuild honestly it takes time.  Also, UK fans and folksnot in the loop on IU in general (like Goodman) have no IDEA how decimated IU was post  “he who shall not be named”.   Like Crean said today to the media – IU wasn’t starting at zero. They were starting in negatives, and to dig out of that takes time.  I am so looking forward to this season and hoping for some serious improvement in the W/L column. 

  • There are so many intagibles this season that can really flavor our opinion on Crean.   I think staying healthy (especially with Mo Creek out) will be paramount.  We lose any of our horses and we can expect a much lower win total, and could help Crean survive a bit longer than 2 years.   Recruits backing out if they don’t like the way the program is heading (i.e. Gunner Keil on the gridiron) would have huge implications and could hasten his leaving.   So really who knows.  All I know is that Crean is my guy, and I’ve loved every move he’s made thus far.  Next year there is little doubt that talent and experience wise this team should be really competetive, a possible B1G crown condender – on paper.   So I guess my point is that we can’t assume 2 years is the checkpoint where we’ll know if the Crean approach is working or not because of these intangibles.
      

  • Anonymous

    Really guys! Practice! The same practices that nearly make Crean crean his pants when he talks about how great everyone is in practice!

  • Anonymous

    I will definitely give you the first year as a throw away. That is a fair point.

  • Anonymous

    Dude! Look at the last 2 seasons non-conference schedules for both teams then come back and retract that previous statement. Thanks

  • Anonymous

    Not that big of restrictions. IU actually killed themselves way more than the NCAA most likely would have.

  • Anonymous

    No Thanks!  When you get to the conference schedule, everything changes.  That is the problem with midmajors, they aren’t getting the best teams when they are in full stride.  Kentucky was a lot better in Feb and Mar than they were in November and Dec.  I think Butler was a great story, but I am not buying all the Stevens hype just yet.  I guess we will agree to disagree.

  • IUball

    Experience and Cody. I think less than 20 wins would be a disappointment. The Big Ten overall is much weaker and Cody is going to make a push for first team Big Ten.

  • IUball

    My mom could win with Cody and Yogi. Crean should make a tournament appearance  this year and at least a Final Four next year. And I expect to win it.

    Yogi and Cody are going to show the world how great it is to be both very talented and very smart. And their supporting cast are a good team by themselves.

    Cody, Hanner and Peter will one of the fastest front courts EVER. Then we will have very fast guards in Will, Victor, Buss, Remy and of course Yogi. 

    The fast break will never look so good.

  • IUball

    Your last sentence gives me some respect for U of L fans. Though I heard Derek Willis wasn’t impressed with their fan turn out.

    Crean not only had a throw away for his first year. He faced major sanctions on his recruiting capabilities while recruiting his first two real classes. (not counting 2008 as Crean was hired in the spring and just had to find what high school seniors were still left)

  • IUball

    The Iowa game comes to mind. He had his big dunk, then poof. My only memory of him after that is getting beat bad in the post two times down the stretch.

    But I don’t mind being wrong at all in this case. Cause Will should just keep improving big time.

  • IUball

    His contact with recruits was very limited, whether the school or NCAA imposed them. I think not being able to visit in person with the kids is a big disadvantage and he still got Jordan, Derek, Christian and Mo in 2009

  • Anonymous

    And Butler was obviously better in Feb and Mar as well. Moot point

  • Anonymous

    Agree. Like I keep going back to, we’re playing Northwestern and a single player is ripping us a new one all by himself and according to Crean, during a timeout, no one on the whole team wanted to step up and say let me have him I’ll stop him….except for one guy and then later on we find out that one person was Will. And like Crean also said we need for every player to have that kind of drive & grit.

  • Anonymous

    Good outcomes in practice will eventually lead to good outcomes in games. One doesn’t “practice” in an effort to suck. Nobody begins an endeavor with the intent to suck..it’s just that sometimes in the early stages of things, that’s the unfortunate outcome. Ever listen to a kid play a musical instrument for the first time? …then after 4 years of practice? Big difference.

  • Anonymous

    I think you meant to say “UK had two 1st round picks AND a huge bag of unmarked bills, AND a $100k Volvo for Enes, AND academic “ringers” lined up to take exams, AND…..” But i understand, you were trying to save space;)

  • Anonymous

    GREAT analogy.

  • WAKUNKEL

    Goodman doesn’t have clue. He also picked Syracuse to win in all. Syracuse would win it all without Jim Boeheim. Jim is a great recruiter but an average game coach. boeheim leaves points on the bench after time outs and usually has a least one playerplaying out of position  for no reason.
    We’ll see.  So far 0-1.