Open Thread: Post-Hysteria discussion

  • 10/15/2011 11:02 pm in

(Photo credit: Jamie Owens)

The 2011-2012 season is officially underway.

Hoosier Hysteria produced an electric atmosphere on Saturday night as 16,100 screaming fans packed Assembly Hall.

The Hoosiers, minus a slightly hobbled Christian Watford, took the court for the first time for a 3-point shootout, dunk contest and a 15-minute scrimmage to close out the evening.

Bill Raftery MC’d the event. D.J. Steve Porter spun records near half court. Former Hoosiers D.J. White and Eric Gordon both made an appearance. And countless recruits, including seven verbal commitments and Gary Harris, took in the festivities.

All in all, a good night was had by all. With that, we turn it over to you for your thoughts and observations on your first look at this year’s team.

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  • I really hope that all the great support that all the fans showed and the fact we will have even a larger student section this year, by the way we already have the largest student section in the country, will have an impact on Harris’ decision to come to IU. I also liked the way that Etherington and Abel looked. This is going to be an exciting year and the years to come are just going to be even better. Hoosier Nation is back and is back in a major way. GO HOOSIERS!!!!

  • My thoughts:

    -First off, the Gary Harris chant was awesome. Although he left like halfway through, anyone know where he went?

    -MANTOMAN – Bill Raftery enough said

    -Crowd was absolutely unreal. Never seen anything like it. 

    -Both Victor and Will look a lot bigger, Jordy as well.

    -Zeller and Sheehey were by far the 2 best players on the court tonight. 

  • Anonymous

    Thoughts for the evening:

    -If that wasn’t enough for Gary Harris then nothing will be. What a great atmosphere!
    -Hulls looks ready to lead this team in every way: moving quicker, appears much stronger, still has the stroke.
    -Impressed with Sheehey’s aggressive play offensively. Looks more confident with the ball.
    -Elston looked livelier and appeared even more like He-man.
    -that Zeller kid can play.

  • Anonymous

    Loved the way CTC let the crowd show GH some love and Cody is a lot bigger than advertised. It did look like Jordy’s team out there tonight. Tijan sighting was nice

  • Anonymous

    Some of my thoughts on the Hoosiers

    -Zeller is as good as advertised. Ran the floor extremely well and looked mighty impressive to me. He is gonna be a huge factor this year.
    -Hulls was a stone cold killer in that scrimmage. He still has his stroke and also used a few nice drives and a couple floaters to get on the board.
    -I know we hate on him a lot, but Daniel Moore was impressive. Made some hustle plays and knocked down a couple three’s.
    -Sheehey was much improved and too me looks to be the best starting option I saw besides Hulls/Zeller.
    -Oladipo has got some moves, both dancing and basketball.
    -Pritch and Elston both looked pretty good which is a nice sign.
    -Remy had a really nice drive to the hoop which I think is a good sign. I wish he could’ve got a few more touches.
    -Austin looked pretty good to me.

    -Gary Harris got some loving and I think this was good oppurtunity to get him as anything.

    My first Hoosier Hysteria. But it was amazing. Really fun atmosphere and the production was great. I think I’m gonna make it my goal to go from now on.

  • Anonymous

    Some of my thoughts on the Hoosiers

    -Zeller is as good as advertised. Ran the floor extremely well and looked mighty impressive to me. He is gonna be a huge factor this year.
    -Hulls was a stone cold killer in that scrimmage. He still has his stroke and also used a few nice drives and a couple floaters to get on the board.
    -I know we hate on him a lot, but Daniel Moore was impressive. Made some hustle plays and knocked down a couple three’s.
    -Sheehey was much improved and too me looks to be the best starting option I saw besides Hulls/Zeller.
    -Oladipo has got some moves, both dancing and basketball.
    -Pritch and Elston both looked pretty good which is a nice sign.
    -Remy had a really nice drive to the hoop which I think is a good sign. I wish he could’ve got a few more touches.
    -Austin looked pretty good to me.

    -Gary Harris got some loving and I think this was good oppurtunity to get him as anything.

    My first Hoosier Hysteria. But it was amazing. Really fun atmosphere and the production was great. I think I’m gonna make it my goal to go from now on.

  • Jmfriedman

    It appears to me that there is a “different feeling” on the court.  I have heard this from my sources close to the team and tonight I see what the talk is about.  The guys seem confident, comfortable, and dare I say, happy?  Have not seen that the last few years at any time, from any player.  More like a deer in the headlights look at most times.  There was almost an expectation of failure, which, it seems, is gone…..at least at this point.  Either way, I think this team is gonna surprise some people. 

    As far as Harris goes….. I don’t see how he doesn’t want to be a part of this with his buddies.  I still think it will come down to IU and MSU, and I hope he picks the candy stripes.

  • Anonymous

    I’m pretty sure he didn’t leave.  I thought I saw him walking out after the scrimmage was over.

  • Anonymous

    -Sheehey looked amazing tonight.  I’m not just talking about the shorts either.  He looked good handling the ball, definitely better shooting the ball, and he seemed bigger.  I am really excited to watch him play this year.

    -Zeller looked good also.  I can’t think of something he didn’t do well.  He passed well, scored well, ran well, just a complete player.

    -Jordy Hulls was very impressive.  He obviously shot well.  He improved his ability to create space for the jumper.  He is definitely a leader and will carry this team.

    -I don’t see how Harris wouldn’t be completely impressed.  I really hope he decides to join the movement.

    -Tijan

  • Him, Colin Hartman, and Yogi left for like five minutes and then came back. I think that’s what he was talking about. He did, however, look bored the whole time IMO.

  • Anonymous

    how was the ovation for Mo creek? I know CTC tweeted saying he hoped he got a big one…

  • Kelin Blab

    Very nice atmosphere tonight….
    I got with the + signs people…it is a KB tradition…

    + The Gary Harris chant was good followed by the Crean “sorry I interrupted”
    + Jurkin looks bigger…alot bigger
    + So many recruits there, I have no idea who the hell anyone was…other than Derek Willis I think
    + Huge crowd, next year, will be sold out.
    + We need more dunkers, a walk on should NEVER be in the dunk contest.
    + Hulls and Roth should have had a 3pt shoot out
    + Pricth with a jumpshot
    + Mo Creek has to be the toughest kid in the state…had a smile, crutches, and was involved.
    + Alex Bozich has great seats.
    + My 5yr gets sleepy to early, no autograph session for him…what a wuss.
    + On 37 police was out but in a good mood given I had one headlight and was speeding.
    + Tough to ignore your name being chanted, but would not surprise me if GH goes elsewhere.
    + Oh Cody is Cody, Hulls is aggressive, Remy is crafty, Etherington will help this year…Victor and Will are active, and VJ still has the best midrange game in the business.

  • Hoosierfan323

    Who will be this years starting lineup?!

    I would love to see

    1. Hulls
    2. Sheehey
    3. Watford
    4. Zeller
    5. Pritch

    This lineup would surely create some size miss matches for our oppents.

  • Hoosierfan323

    Sorry about misspellings. It’s late and still driving home. Ha

  • Lilsimmsy

    I was sitting like 15 rows behind Gary Harris and never saw him leave. I took multiple pictures at the end of the recruits talking away. I’m not saying he didn’t walk away half way thru, I just never saw it

  • Jacob Simms

    Personally, I thought it was the loudest moment more than any chant or anything. I had goose bumps the whole time everyone was cheering for him. It was really awesome to watch!!

  • Paynilia

    I don’t know about you guys but I just don’t get that same feeling with GH that I did with Cody and even Hollowell. With those 2 you always felt they were gonna come. Just don’t have that same feeling with Harris.

    Other than that, you guys have hit the big points, I feel like 1 that needs to be rehashed is this: When Victor and VJIII were guarding each other in the scrimmage, it was SO CLEAR that Victor was far and away the better player, yet I fear CTC will feel guilty if he doesn’t starty Verdell seeing as he has been through so much in the program.

    After tonight, it is clear that our best 5 (not necessarily starting lineup) are Jordy, Oladipo, Sheehey, C-Wat and Cody.

    Other thoughts

    -Remy’s shot is ugly, but I liked his ball handling and one drive
    -Can’t see Roth getting any PT this year, Etherington is basically Roth without the defensive liability plus 3 inches of height.
    -Jordy owns this team and CTC knows it
    -Looks like Zeller’s contributions will be mainly in transition this year, he did a great job of running the floor tonight but was still getting out bodied by Pritch down low
    -Elston & Cody got a lot stronger, a long with a few others
    -Tijan struggles with numbers

  • Gregmquinn

    That line-up is going to be fun to watch.  I’m sure we’ll see it, but I think VJ3 will start instead of either Sheehey or Pritch.

    Gotta love the depth, though.  If Oladipo lives up to the pre-season buzz and Elston bounces back, we will have an athletic team with a lot of size that legitimately goes 8 deep.

    It’s really nice going into a season feeling like we’re going to compete.  Can’t wait for tip-off! 

  • Iuspike1321

    He did exit temporarily with yogi, Hartman, and hollowell but they returned shortly thereafter

  • sally

    Tijan struggles with numbers…..that is hilarious!  I thought the same thing! 

  • MT

    Tijan does not struggle with numbers.  Numbers struggle with Tijan.

  • Anonymous

    I thought it was awesome tonight! only negatives i thought was the video and the way they started it off last year was better and the way they did autographs was at the end was horrible. 
    Cody definitely was a lot bigger
    Loved Will’s aggressiveness. 
    Chants were great
    team seems to be communicating good with Cody on the court

  • IU_Alum96

    I paid the fee to watch HH online this year.  BTN needs to figure out that you can have your reporters talk and you can interview people without having to show us live shots of them since most of what the Assembly Hall crowd saw on the video screen and parts of the three-point contest were missed because of it.  

    Sheehey impressed me the most but I’ve been rooting for him all along…love watching Hulls play and it seemed to be “his” team which I like.  I really like Zeller’s ability to run up and down the floor.  And, Victor needs stick’em for his hands.I have to ask where was the mop lady?  

  • BrianS

    If you are playing the Hoosiers this year:

    A)  You had better get back on defense!
    B)  You had better find a way to defend the pick and roll!
    C)  You had better block out or lose every rebound!
    D)  You had better defend the perimeter or it’s going to be a long night!
    E)  All of the Above!

  • Anonymous

    For Harris..do I want to be an important part of an IU team/culture still being developed..or do I go to an already outstanding program (MSU)..and be the go too guy for Izzo…or do I want to go to UK where JC’s system allows me  to do anything I want on the floor ..surrounded with great talent..and be one and done. In today’s world..choices 2 or 3 make more sense to a young player with a pro future.. altho I hope he comes to IU.

  • Fifefan

    A couple observations from last night.

    The whole team looked so much more relaxed during the scrimmage.  For the past 3 years, it has always looked like everyone was pressing, but not last night.  The flow was great and everyone was knocking down shots.  We will never again see a line-up with 2-4 guys on the court that can’t score.  Pick your poison from here on out.

    We actually have several shooters.  This was the best sign that I saw on the night.  From now on, when someone kicks it out, it’s gonna be buried.  So tired of facing other teams that have that weapon.  Now WE do!!!  Hulls, Roth, Etherington, Sheehey, Moore, Oladipo, and even Zeller and Elston were all knocking them down. That doesn’t even include Watford. 

    How does Cody constantly beat everyone down the court? Get used to seeing the “transition dunk by Zeller”.  Saw him do that endlessly last year in high school, during the McDonalds All-American game, AAU, and last night.   

    Very encouraging night!!!

  • Anonymous

    i thought the entire “production” of HH was a little shabby compared to even last year. Last year was electric..this seemed dull at times to me and a little too improvised. Shoulda had a better MC and the indoor fireworks last year were cool. There shoulda been more of the video board clips like we used to see on here to build the excitement. I don’t blame Gary Harris for being bored..we didn’t put on as good a show as we have in the past. However, the GH chant that caused CTC to pause was sweet..what was his reaction to that? I couldn’t see from the upper level seats we had.

  • Anonymous

    I noticed Cody leading the transition too, and watched more carefully to see how he was beating everyone down the court. TP was setting high ball screens so it kept CZ further from the boards – and on the front edge of a transition game. I wonder how much of that disappears when he has to defend in the paint. He was spectacular though and will create several opportunities for us offensively. Im in the camp that has Will starting over Victor and VJ3 – it’s gonna be hard to keep him off the court.

  • IUeconAlum

    It was great to see Tijan around, or should I say it was great to see IU around Tijan. Is he a graduate student now at IU? Besides that, they looked great for a first practice. Go Hoosiers!

  • Anonymous

    I like the “This is Indiana” video but they could of done it differently. i agree the video montage was very week. Why use the “streets have no names”?

  • Anonymous

    Wouldn’t say it’s back just yet.

  • Anonymous

    I tend to agree. I see him going to MSU

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    It’s coming KB!  Patterson, Hollowell, Perea, and possibly Harris will certainly make the dunk contest a little more interesting next year!

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    It actually fills me with confidence.  Zeller will most likely be used in a drive and kick or pick and pop system and in transition.  On the other hand, we DESPERATELY need big Tom Pritchard to step up and be the shut down defender against the other teams big! 

    If TP averages 5-7 points and 7-9 rebounds this year and plays lock down D then IU will have a good season and TP will be a huge success!

  • Devout Hoosier

    + Zeller was impressive running the floor.  In several plays he was the first man out.  Not a Guard!!!  That’s sick and wrong but Zeller was awesome and they missed some passes to him so this team has to get use to playing together.
    + Jordy kicks butt.  Best man on the floor bar none.  Head up, play maker.  He aggressively shot (and hit it), drove and dished, faked drive and passed.  He had poise and confidence.
    + I liked Victor’s confidence and defensive tenacity.

    – It sucked seeing Watford wearing a protective boot.  Without Watford we’ll likely be a 12 win team and look a lot like last year.  With Watford I think we get over the hump with 18-20 wins.  We have several shooters to go with the Zeller/Watford duo that is going to scare and punish a lot of teams this year.

    – Defense from all players pretty much looked the same as last year.  I know it’s just exhibition basically with no practices, but that will be key this year no matter what our offense looks like.  I don’t like 40 minute races, so some defense to give us a lead would be nice.

  • Anonymous

    In the finals next year it’ll be Hanner Perea vs. Hanner Perea.

    The ONLY WAY he’ll get beat is if Sheehey and Victor team up. Sheehey has to dunk first (cause it’s gotta go in) and Victor snags it from the bottom of the net and dunks it again. A double dunk…that’s my prediction for how to beat Hanner. You heard it here first. Can i get a witness?!?!

  • Anonymous

    + Zeller runs the floor well and uses his body well to block off defenders in trasisition.
    +Sheehey impressed me the most.  He out played VO.  If he can guard he will start over VO, IMO.
    +I know it was a scrimage and 1rst practice, but D looked soft.
    + We will have depth this year.
    +Pritch looked good.  I wish we could of seen Pritch and Zeller on the same team for a bit.
    +Hulls looks season ready already.
    +AE looks better then advertised.  He is going to be a great role player for 4 years.

    18-20 wins seems to be with in reach.

  • Anonymous

    Anyone, besides me, notice what happens to the offensive tempo when the ball is in VJIII’s hands?

  • Anonymous

    …as the tumbleweed rolls past and we all sit watching paint dry at the saloon. (Is that what you were hoping for?)

  • Anonymous

    Exactly! ! !