Class of 2013 Intro: Point Guards

June 15 marked the first day that college coaches could contact prospects in the class of 2013 by phone and with that, we were able to get a better idea of some of the names on the Indiana radar. Over the next few weeks, we’ll take a closer look at three different segments of the 2013 class: point guards, scoring guard/wings and big men.

Currently, Indiana has one scholarship (plus an oversign) to distribute in 2013, but due to potential early entries to the NBA and other forms of attrition, it’s possible the Hoosiers could add more than one recruit to a class that already includes Collin Hartman and Devin Davis Jr.

With Yogi Ferrell scheduled to hit campus in the fall of 2012, Indiana may opt not to add a point guard in this class, but here’s a detailed look at the point guard crop for 2013:

Josh Newkirk
Word of God Academy (NC)
School List: Appalachian State (offer), Arizona (offer), Clemson, East Carolina, Georgetown, Indiana (offer), North Carolina, North Carolina State (offer), Providence, Seton Hall, Virginia Commonwealth, Wake Forest

Newkirk is the only 2013 point guard with an Indiana offer, which is why he is at the top of list. But is he the most realistic option for the Hoosiers? Probably not. He could prove extremely difficult to wrestle away from hometown North Carolina State, who recently picked up a commitment from his high school teammate Torian Graham (class of 2012).

As for his on the court prowess, we’ll have to rely on this brief scouting report from ESPN: “A reclassified member of 2013, the strength of his game has always been his ability to get by players. He easily transitions from scorer to playmaker and can do both. He owns a presence at his position and the kind of head strong game you want out of a playmaker.”

Demetrius Jackson
Mishawaka Marian (IN)
School List: Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Michigan State, Notre Dame, Purdue, Xavier (offer)

Indiana’s involvement with Jackson has started to heat up in recent months and with only the offer from Xavier to-date, the opportunity for the Hoosiers to make a move is there. He’s expected to take an unofficial visit to Bloomington this summer and offered this assessment of Tom Crean and IU recently on Twitter: “Just got off the phone with Tom Crean, man is he a good guy. Really like him. Great program really building something special.”

You can watch video of Jackson over on his recruit profile page and the book on the Mishawaka guard is that he attacks the lane relentlessly off the dribble. He’s a bit streaky from the perimeter, but can fill it up if he gets going. Even as his MBA Select team was beaten in three straight games at the adidas May Classic, Jackson exhibited high-level hustle and intensity.

Jalen James
Chicago Hope Academy (IL)
School List: Baylor (offer), Cleveland State (offer), Dayton, DePaul, Florida State, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Missouri, Tennessee, Wisconsin, Xavier

Indiana’s involvement with James began in May when assistant coach Tim Buckley got in contact with Mike Mullins, who coaches the Chicago point guard with the Illinois Wolves. The Wolves program helped produce both Demetri McCamey and Evan Turner in recent years.

Like Jackson, James is expected to take an unofficial visit to Bloomington this summer and he also received a phone call from the Indiana staff on June 15. Inside the Hall got its first look at James at the Spiece Run ‘N Slam back in May and came away impressed with his ability to both handle and distribute the ball. At 6-foot-3, James is the tallest point guard on this list and his size allows him to see the court well.

Derrick Walton
Chandler Park Academy (MI)
School List: Central Michigan, Connecticut, DePaul, Indiana, Michigan (offer), Michigan State, Notre Dame, Northwestern, Stanford, Tennessee, Western Michigan, Xavier (offer)

Walton also heard from the Indiana staff on June 15 and told Steve Schwanda that Indiana is very interested. Michigan is considered to be the early favorite to land Walton as the Wolverines offered the Detroit native last Wednesday.

Here’s a scouting report on Walton from our friends at UMHoops: “Walton is a pure point guard in every sense of the word. He doesn’t have the jumping ability of a player like (Demetrius) Jackson but he uses his quickness to get into the lane and is a dynamic passer with incredible court vision. He looks to setup teammates but is also capable of exploding in the scoring column as well.”

Duane Wilson Jr.
Milwaukee Dominican (WI)
School List: DePaul, Florida, Florida State, Indiana, Indiana State (offer), Iowa, Marquette (offer), Memphis, Minnesota, Missouri, Oregon State, Washington

The Hoosiers, along with Iowa, Minnesota, Oregon State and Washington contacted Wilson Jr. last Wednesday.

Brian Snow of Scout.com offered this assessment of Wilson Jr. after a recent EYBL event: “While his shot didn’t really fall, Wilson did play hard, defended well, and show the leadership wanted out of a point guard. With his length and size he can defend either spot in the backcourt, and Wilson has the ability to get to the rim on the offensive end. Not possessing elite quickness, Wilson gets it done with intelligence and feel for the game.”

  • Anonymous

    I’ve got a question Alex.  Of the mega-list you guys put together of recruits Crean contacted on the 15th, what was the position distribution? 

    I have no idea what the numbers are, but I keep feeling like we are going after so many PG’s that CTC must be hoping to sign another, despite getting Yogi in ’12.  Always good to have PG’s and who knows what’ll happen in the future, but it feels like CTC must want a ’13 PG based on the numbers.  But, and this is why i ask the question, I have no idea how many guys at each position he’s going for.  If there are 20 big men and 4 PG’s on the list, then I won’t assume he’s going for a PG.  More than anything, I’m just hoping to get a better feel for what type of player CTC is most targeting in ’13.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve got a question Alex.  Of the mega-list you guys put together of recruits Crean contacted on the 15th, what was the position distribution? 

    I have no idea what the numbers are, but I keep feeling like we are going after so many PG’s that CTC must be hoping to sign another, despite getting Yogi in ’12.  Always good to have PG’s and who knows what’ll happen in the future, but it feels like CTC must want a ’13 PG based on the numbers.  But, and this is why i ask the question, I have no idea how many guys at each position he’s going for.  If there are 20 big men and 4 PG’s on the list, then I won’t assume he’s going for a PG.  More than anything, I’m just hoping to get a better feel for what type of player CTC is most targeting in ’13.

  • Anonymous

    You are right.  We have Hulls through 2013, Abell through ’15, Yogi through ’16 and Blackmon through ’18 (with plenty of overlap). This too assumes no attrition to the NBA, which in my opinion I actually don’t think will be an issue here.  Furthermore, we have a bevy of 2-3 guards standing 6′-4″ to 6’6″ for the same years.  Seems to me we could use one or two more bigs to round things out! 

  • Plane1972

    I have to think it is because Crean feels Yogi is a 2-year guy at most. I know his size is a knock on him but looking at how much attention PGs are commanding in the draft in recent years, and if Yogi does indeed turn into [one of ]the top PG in the class, you have to think he will get serious looks at the next level and be able to come out early.

  • http://www.insidethehall.com/ Alex Bozich

    I want to say there were 17 names (missed BJ Anya, but they did call him) mentioned who were contacted on the 15th. That’s probably not a complete list as I’m sure we didn’t learn every name.

    But of the 17, it appears five were point guards, four were “bigs” and eight would be considered wings and/or shooting guards.

  • http://www.insidethehall.com/ Alex Bozich

    I want to say there were 17 names (missed BJ Anya, but they did call him) mentioned who were contacted on the 15th. That’s probably not a complete list as I’m sure we didn’t learn every name.

    But of the 17, it appears five were point guards, four were “bigs” and eight would be considered wings and/or shooting guards.

  • Anonymous

    Most of the players that CTC recruits will sign with a different program.  He can’t lock in on just his #1 option at each position and not perform any due diligence on guys further down the list.  Look at how many players he has put feelers out for in the ’12 class.  We may be listed as a school that is interested in a player, but most recruiting services don’t list our level of interest. 

    Based upon the PGs that he is currently recruiting, I would guess that he is hoping to land either Newkirk, Jackson or James.  If he can’t get one of those three, he may not sign a PG for the ’13 class. It may be a tough sell to get any of those three, because they probably see the writing on the wall that they would be a backup until Yogi left also.

    Also, I still think that CTC doesn’t get enough credit for recruiting big men.  2011 – Zeller; 2012 – Perea, Jurkin, 2014 – Lyles.  That is a pretty solid group of big men who may all play together.  He is still trying to find another big (or two or three) also, so I wouldn’t expect that he is done in that category either.

  • Anonymous

    I think we all would like to have another big or two commit for the upcoming classes.  That doesn’t mean we don’t need wings or PGs, though.  In my opinion, having two solid PGs is the minimum requirement nowadays, so while I see your point, I think having one of the top three PGs listed would greatly improve our team.

    Here’s a quick glance at all of the players who COULD play PG.

    2011-12: Hulls*, Abell, Jones
    2012-13: Yogi*, Hulls, Abell
    2013-14: Yogi*, Abell
    2014-15: Yogi*, Abell, Blackmon (I think he’ll play 2 instead)

    The next couple of years, we are probably okay at PG, but in ’13, we could use another one, imo.  Also, adding someone like Newkirk, Jackson or James would allow CTC a little more versatility with his lineup when needed.

  • Anonymous

    I think we all would like to have another big or two commit for the upcoming classes.  That doesn’t mean we don’t need wings or PGs, though.  In my opinion, having two solid PGs is the minimum requirement nowadays, so while I see your point, I think having one of the top three PGs listed would greatly improve our team.

    Here’s a quick glance at all of the players who COULD play PG.

    2011-12: Hulls*, Abell, Jones
    2012-13: Yogi*, Hulls, Abell
    2013-14: Yogi*, Abell
    2014-15: Yogi*, Abell, Blackmon (I think he’ll play 2 instead)

    The next couple of years, we are probably okay at PG, but in ’13, we could use another one, imo.  Also, adding someone like Newkirk, Jackson or James would allow CTC a little more versatility with his lineup when needed.

  • Anonymous

    We’re obviously not signing 17 people in the ’13 class, so yeah, nearly every recruit CTC goes after won’t sign with IU.

    However, if he calls 2 PG’s and 20 big men, I think we can infer a bit on what he is going after.  Hence, my question.

  • Anonymous

    We’re obviously not signing 17 people in the ’13 class, so yeah, nearly every recruit CTC goes after won’t sign with IU.

    However, if he calls 2 PG’s and 20 big men, I think we can infer a bit on what he is going after.  Hence, my question.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks

  • Anonymous

    Thanks

  • Anonymous

    Thanks

  • Anonymous

    calbert40, you have very good analysis here and above.

    I would agree with you that CTC has recruited very talented big men through 2014.  It is hard to be critical on that front or any front for that matter.

    However, when you put things in context, I would be more comfortable if we landed yet another big man given the guards he has recruited.  We have plenty, guards rarely foul out and should play 90-95% of the game if they are very good, which I believe Hulls, Yogi and Blackmon will be. 

    Hanner and Jurkin still have some development before they are polished at the college level (although I admit Hanner can get away with this a bit).  Lyles does not come until 2014.  

    All that said, I would like to get one more polished, productive, ready-to-play big man for either the 2012 or 2013 class.

     

  • http://weeklycritiquely.blogspot.com/ IUfanPurduePhD

    Any of these guys would be great, but I’d love to nab Jackson.

    – He’s an Indiana kid.
    – He’s got a great frame (cut for a sophomore PG) and looks like he could add muscle rather easily.
    – His long-range shot selection is questionable sometimes, but I like his vision and his willingness to attack the rim (and maybe his shot selection is a result of not having very good teammates?).
    – Both sets of clips on his recruit page showed multiple deflections, steals, and even a couple of blocks, which means that he’d make a fantastic defensive addition to our team.
    – I think we have the best shot at landing him since he’s only getting interest from schools in the midwest… but based on location, I’m assuming Notre Dame might be the favorite.

  • Anonymous

    Well, if he did call “2 PGs and 20 big men” I think we would know what position he was targeting.  CTC hasn’t ever really done that, though.  He goes after guys who he thinks would help the team. 

    My point is that I believe he does a pretty nice job of balancing the three main positions in his recruiting efforts.  That’s why I responded to your question.  I feel like many of us don’t look at the recruiting job that CTC has done with bigs.  We all want more, but that doesn’t necessarily require that he neglects PGs. 

    Maybe I’m biased, because I played PG, but I think this position is invaluable.  It doesn’t matter how good our bigs are if no one can get them the ball. We also need talented wings who can make the defense pay for doubling down low.  That’s why I like CTC’s “everything but the kitchen sink” style of recruiting.  Let’s get better every year at every position.

  • Kelin Blab

    Seems we are doing alot of midwestern recruiting which is good, between Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, and Wisconsin. I do like the fact that we are attempting to get in with some of the countries elite talent.

    Jalen James in intriguing because he is a BIG pg and seems to be a willing distributor.
    Josh Newkirk is big time!
    DJ is an indiana kid and a solid solid PG

  • Anonymous

    Thanks, Keep!

    I completely agree that we could use another big or two from ’12 to ’14, but like I mentioned above, I still think we need another PG during that time as well.  I will be ecstatic with any of those “big” 3 PGs CTC has his eyes set on.  I think each of them would help us a lot.

    If anything, I think that CTC could slow down with wings, especially if we get Harris to sign with us.  We are pretty loaded at wing for the next few years (I consider Blackmon more of a combo guard instead of a solid PG).

    Wings in upcoming years (including combo guards):

    2011-12: VJ3, Roth, Mo (if healthy), VO, Will, AE, Remy, and maybe CW
    2012-13: Mo (if healthy), CW*, VO, Will, AE, Remy, Hollowell, Buss, maybe Harris
    2013-14: VO, Will, AE, Remy, Hollowell, Buss, maybe Harris, Hartman, Davis
    2014-15: AE, Remy, Hollowell, Buss, maybe Harris, Hartman, Davis, Blackmon, maybe Lyle and Blueitt (or insert other recruits).

    I think we are pretty loaded at wing.  Of course, lots of things can happen: transfers, injuries, asking out of commitments, etc, so this list may be fluid.  Also, I keep hoping that Davis grows to 6’8″ and can play the 4.

  • Uncle Joey

    Crean likes to run an offense with many talented, quick guards who can handle/distribute the ball.  Look at when he was at Marquette… most of the time he had at least 3 guards on the floor who could all handle the rock.  

    I see him picking up a 2013 kid who is somewhat of a hybrid/combo guard–someone who can attack and score, but also fill in for Yogi at the point when called upon.  I don’t foresee us picking up a “true” point guard, because they would know that they would spend a considerable amount of their career behind Yogi on the depth chart.

  • Kelin Blab

    Jalen James what are you doing committing to Illinois? Less than 24hrs after your 2nd appearance on ITH, have you no shame.

  • Kelin Blab

    Jalen James what are you doing committing to Illinois? Less than 24hrs after your 2nd appearance on ITH, have you no shame.

  • CreamandCrimson

    I found that a little bit surprising.  McCamey (same AAU program) didn’t seem to work out very well there.  Good luck to Mr. James but I have a feeling he will be back on the market when Weber gets canned following another disappointing season from the Illini.  No McCamey, Tisdale, Davis or Richmond and Weber steering the ship?  Good luck with that.

  • N71

    I prefer Jackson, he reminds me of a bigger version of AJ Guyton…and he’s from Indiana.

  • N71

    I prefer Jackson, he reminds me of a bigger version of AJ Guyton…and he’s from Indiana.

  • N71

    I prefer Jackson, he reminds me of a bigger version of AJ Guyton…and he’s from Indiana.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t worry, I agree with you on all this.  I’m more than happy with how CTC’s recruiting has gone.  My original question was just a simple inquiry to help determine if he’s targeting PG’s more or less than other positions.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t worry, I agree with you on all this.  I’m more than happy with how CTC’s recruiting has gone.  My original question was just a simple inquiry to help determine if he’s targeting PG’s more or less than other positions.

  • Anonymous

    I read you.  Maybe he is targeting PGs in that class more than other positions, because the frontcourt depth in that class is pretty thin, but there seems to be quite a few good PGs.  Maybe he doesn’t love any bigs that year?  Hard to say.

    I would love for us to make a push for Anya for that class, but it seems that we are in his second tier of choices.

  • Anonymous

    Indeed.  I don’t know much about the bigs but Anya is quite appealing.  

  • Anonymous

    Indeed.  I don’t know much about the bigs but Anya is quite appealing.  

  • Anonymous

    Great.  Now we have to hate him!  haha

    Not a surprise, though.  I felt like we might be an underdog to Illinois.  Maybe I am biased (okay…I AM biased), but as a recruit (or parent of a recruit), how does Weber come across better than Crean to you?  I guess if you are wanting a coach who whines a lot as opposed to one with a lot of energy, Illinois could be the place for you?!?!

  • IUJeff

    As long as Whiner stays in his own state, I don’t care who he gets. No Indiana kids for you Bruce !

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