Around the Hall: ESPN love for IU, 2013 rankings, more

  • 05/12/2011 1:28 pm in

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It’s never too early to start the 2011-2012 chatter, right? Our friend and ESPN.com columnist Pat Forde weighs-in with ten things he’d like to see next season in college hoops. Indiana comes in at No. 6 on the list:

6. Indiana as a viable member of the Big Ten: It’s time for the Hoosiers to finally crawl out of the Kelvin Sampson smoking crater and rejoin the ranks of the competitive. Not necessarily the ranks of the good, but the competitive.

After three straight 20-loss seasons, Indiana should finally have the players to at least threaten to be .500 and arise from the Big Ten basement. Prep All-American Cody Zeller will not — repeat, will not — be an immediate savior, but he joins an experienced cast in a league that will hardly be impossible to handle.

College basketball isn’t as much fun when Indiana stinks. Time to change that.

Scout.com expanded its 2013 rankings to fifty prospects. Neither Collin Hartman or Devin Davis Jr. made the cut. Purdue has two recruits — Bryson Scott (42) and Kendall Stephens (46) — on the list.

The adidas May Classic is this weekend in Bloomington. Admission is $5 on Friday, $15 on Saturday and $10 on Sunday. Both The Hoosier Scoop and Peegs have put together comprehensive guides to follow the IU recruits.

James Blackmon is the new coach at Marion High School, where he played from 1980-1983. His son and IU commit, James Jr., will likely follow him there.

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  • Anonymous

     The problem with no one being stronger 1-12 is that you only get to play 5 at a time, and a good many of those teams are stronger at least 1-5, if not all the way to 7 or 8 as a collective.

    As George Carlin once said, “I never slept with a ’10’, but I did wake up one time with  5 ‘2’s, and that should count for something.”

  • Anonymous

    I agree that our roster can compete talent wise now, and I hope that we can at least split with PU this year. 

    I think that the biggest hump the team has to get over this year is going to be all about confidence.  They need to believe they can do more than compete…they need to believe they can WIN against teams like Purdue.

    How many games did we lose last year at the very end of the game?  I think a lot of that comes down to teams like Wisconsin EXPECT to win.  We need a similar mind set.  Once we EXPECT to win those tight games, we will win more than we lose. 

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know which kids will give us what, but I think we just need to get more out of a lot of guys, especially on the defensive side of the ball.  And, you are so right…we need to limit our fouling!

    I think our foundation is starting to take a nice shape, and we just need two or three guys to play better than we expect.  I am excited about this year.  I am downright giddy over the years coming after this one! 

  • Anonymous

    Agree with what was said about Ryan.  His system minimizes the opponent’s ability to beat them athletically.  They have to beat them mentally, and there aren’t very many teams in the country more metally tough than Wisky. 

  • Anonymous

    I feel we will have better players 1-5 (or 8) then every team but Ohio St. List a starting 5 you think is going to be better overall. I definitely don’t think that means we are going to finish second in the Big Ten, but I guess the point I’m trying to make, is like some other posters, the excuses and sub .500 seasons have to be a thing of the past starting now. The only way you lose to a team with less talent and experience is if you just plain get  outcoached. 

  • Anonymous

    does Robbie Hummel not exist in your universe?, I’d say he’s better. 

  • IUJeff

    It is simple. Wisconsin has a great program, and a great coach who is great at teaching offence and lock-down defensive team basketball. He recruits smart players, develops them, plays to their strengths, and exploits other teams weaknesses. I haven’t checked the stats but I’d bet he is in the top 10 in win % for active Div 1 coaches. I also believe he won a national championship in another division prior to coaching at Wisconsin.    

  • IUJeff

    20 wins this year will depend largely on coaching. Off the top of my head, I count at least 5 coaches in the big ten who will not beat themselves.

  • IUJeff

    Experience winning is where we have a gap. In individual and team defense we were also way behind. If the 2 freshmen and Remy, come with some fire in their belly like Jordy and Will, we may have something.

    Someone is going to have to step to the front, pull the rest of the team up by the shorts, and pick IU up off the mat.

  • Anonymous

    I can’t argue with what you guys are saying regarding what Ryan has been able to accomplish in his 10 seasons there. He inherited a team that had been to the final four the year before, and has since been able to recruit guys like Devin Harris, Alondo Tucker, Trevon Hughes, Marcus Landry, and Brian Butch. I just don’t think he has ever had a team THIS depleted for talent, but we all know personally what Jordan Taylor is capable of, and Ryan’s defenses are suffocating, so we’ll see what happens       I’d be interested to read what everyone thinks but I predict that OSU runs away with the Big Ten title, and that every other team outside Penn St could make a run for a top half finish in the league…to me its more wide open than i can ever remember.

  • Anonymous

    So, are you saying that we lose games because CTC isn’t a good coach?  I am not trying to put words in your mouth, but that sounds like what you are saying. 

    If so, I couldn’t disagree more. I think RMK wouldn’t have won the last 3 years in Bloomington.

  •  When it comes to Indiana high school players I like em all.  Think Carney, Randolph, G.Hill, Conley, Oden, Gordon, Hayward, C. Lee to name a few right off the top of my head.  Diamond in the rough

  • IUJeff

    I do believe that to be the case calbert although I don’t believe it is productive to go there again so perhaps I should not have.

    What I am saying is that IMO CTC has not proven himself to be a good coach at IU yet and there have been are a LOT of ? coaching decisions discussed at length over the last 3 years on ITH. I do remain hopeful however, that CTC shows himself to be a good coach when he has a roster full of good D1 talent.

    I don’t expect us to be much better than .500 this year but starting in about 18 months, there will be no more acceptable excuses for IU not claiming their place in the top eschelon of the Big Ten.     

  • Anonymous

     I know that many of us have had this discussion previously, so I’ll try not to rehash certain talking points.  However, I think it is difficult to truly assess CTC’s abilities over the past 3 years.  I truly believe that some of the coaching greats would have had difficulty winning games here the past 3 years.  I believe we could have won more games than we did, but I don’t know that it is fair to place that blame on CTC’s doorstep.

    I think this is the last year that CTC gets much leeway, though.  I think most of us expect marked improvement this year, but I don’t expect an NCAA berth.  Starting in 2012, we expect to be back where we should be.

  • Anonymous

    Agreed 

  • IUJeff

    I will agree with you that it has been difficult, probably impossible to fully assess the abilities of CTC these last 3 years. It is also maddening to try and look back at this past season and understand what he was thinking at times. So we must look back to  what he was able to do at Marquette and to the future for IU.   

  • IUJeff

    Agreed. Gonna be hard to top the x’s & o’s of Bo or BK.

  • IUJeff

    That is impressive in any division or any sport for that matter. Hopefully, we’ll be talking about CTC as being of similar ilk 10 years from now.

  • kenneth dicks

    an old coach of ours EXPECTED to win every game. i have found in life that the higher one’s expectations the higher the results. negative discord delivers negative expectations. we have some great student athletes and i am more proud of that than what i see happening at otherschools. optimism is a wonderful trait, sorry for rambling, but too many negative input. it’s probably some from another school????  of course….