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Scouting Indiana’s newest commitment: Remy Abell

by in Recruiting | April 29th, 2011

As the dust begins to settle on Remy Abell’s commitment to Indiana, there’s been no shortage of questions in the comments about the role that Abell will fill upon his arrival in Bloomington. Is he a point guard? More of a combo? Or will he see time on the wing?

In an effort to paint a clearer picture on the 6-4, 180-pound senior from Louisville, here’s a comprehensive aggregation of scouting notes on Indiana’s newest recruit:

AAU coach Jeff Davis:

“Indiana is not just getting one player, they are getting a guy that can play three different positions for them and can guard three different position. He’s only going to get better with his attitude and what kind of competitor he is. It’s a great situation for Indiana and for him.”

High school coach Jason Couch:

“The kid knows how to win. He’s a great teammate and he makes everyone around him better.”

ESPN.com’s player evaluation:

Abell is a scoring combo guard that can knock down threes and play the point in a pinch. He is a must find for the defense in transition and in the half court set because he can change the scoreboard in a hurry.

Scout.com’s Evan Daniels from last year’s adidas May Classic:

Playing a combo role for Jeff Davis’ squad, Abell, a 6-foot-4 combo guard left his imprint on the game, especially in the second half. With the game getting close, Abell began relentlessly attacking the rim and scored on nearly a half dozen straight trips during a run in the second frame. Although he didn’t do much by way of jump shooting, Abell has a strong handle, good vision and is a quality defender.

Rivals.com’s Eric Bossi from last December’s King of the Bluegrass:

A physical presence on the wing, the future Bradley Brave erupted on the offensive end for 27 points in a blowout win over Bowling Green. He can make some jumpers from deep despite a bit of an unconventional stroke, but his bread and butter is using his athleticism and power to attack off the dribble and score between the rim and 15 feet. His motor, athleticism and general tenacity should allow the three-star prospect to make a pretty early splash in the Missouri Valley Conference.

Rick Bozich of The Louisville Courier-Journal:

So where does he fit at Indiana — a team that returns Jordan Hulls, Verdell Jones, Maurice Creek, Will Sheehey, Victor Oladipo and Matt Roth in the backcourt? Several ways: When you post back-to-back four- and three-win Big Ten seasons, all positions need an upgrade. Indiana doesn’t have a Mr. Irreplaceable. Where Indiana absolutely needs improvement is ball pressure on defense. The Hoosiers ranked 182nd in the nation in field goal defense and 310th in personal fouls. Tom Crean needs perimeter defenders who can keep their men out of the lane without fouling. If Abell can do that, he can play as a freshman. In fact, he can potentially play a lot.

There seems to be some debate on Abell’s position. His AAU coach says he can play three different spots. ESPN and Daniels call him a combo guard. And Bossi has him as a wing. But does he really need a defined position? If he can get into the lane and score off the dribble, as these reports suggest he can, he’ll be in the hunt for serious minutes right away. Indiana’s offense a season ago was far too heavy with perimeter dribbling and shooting and not enough attacking the lane and getting to the foul line.

The defense angle, which is not talked about often enough, is an important one. Indiana lost several games in the Big Ten last year because they failed to guard the perimeter. The Hoosiers allowed far too many uncontested 3-pointers and didn’t pressure the ball consistently. When the words “quality defender” and “competitor” come up in a scouting report, perhaps it’s a good indication that this is an area in which Abell can make an impact.

  • Anonymous

    I mentioned this to a friend the other day. Beyond what position he will play, he adds an immediate and personal understanding of the rivalry with UK. As a kid from Louisville I’m sure he will come in with a passion to win this rivalry, and that will rub off on the rest of the guys.

    Its something that hasn’t been in the mix for decades, and adding it back in will only help, especially when the kid can ball as well.

  • Anonymous

    Strong, athletic, good defender, slasher, good mid range game, great handles….Sounds like a combonation of all the guards we have had (VJ3, Hulls, Rivers) rolled into one? I’ll take that. Our record does indicate that no one is irreplaceable, so I’ll assume he will not only play but push others to get better, which is another attribute one of his coaches mentioned.

  • http://twitter.com/thomasTSKH Thomas Wachtel

    I honestly haven’t heard one thing yet about this kid that I don’t like. Commitment to defense and to getting to the basket have both been weak points in this team in the past few years, and though I like VO and WS in both areas, you can never have too many athletic combo-guard-wing type players. The more competition we have for minutes, the more that kind of attitude will flourish and the better we’ll be.

    This guy looks like a really good pick-up for us, if he pans out at all.

  • 323SGrant

    Thanks for this report Alex. I hope Remy can really help at the point this upcoming season and provide some scoring and strong defense. BTW, you were right about BJ Young. With his high ranking I expected him to be a McDonalds All-American, but he was not.

  • Plane1972

    Didn’t hear much about his passing skills, which is probably the second most important skill set in my mind behind his ability to create for himself.

  • Anonymous

    “When the words ‘quality defender’ and ‘competitor’ come up in a scouting report, perhaps it’s a good indicator that this is an area in which Abell can make an impact.”

    That is my favorite part of the entire article. We need toughness and a stopper on the perimeter. If he can provide both, I don’t see how he doesn’t make an immediate impact.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steve-Fischer/691470077 Steve Fischer

    Somewhere I read that this is a signal that at least one of IU’s current guards may be leaving.

  • Anonymous

    “Indiana’s offense a season ago was far too heavy with perimeter dribbling and shooting and not enough attacking the lane and getting to the foul line.”

    I strongly agree. Good things happen when you take the ball to the basket strong. Easier shots, drawn fouls, getting the defense out of position, help defense leaving people open for shots or offensive rebounds…

    I’m sure he’ll help on defense. On that end of the court we had more matadors than Madrid.

  • Anonymous

    I think that is doubtful.

  • Anonymous

    This may end up being a good pick up. But it officially starts the rumor mill. 1-2 players will be leaving this program over the next 12 months. One will likely not be a surprise and one will be a surprise…stay tuned!

  • stonaroni

    I don’t care what the the so called scouts say. Every year they are right 50% and wrong the other 50%.

    If this kid is used at IU as a guard that can penetrate and be strong with the ball, he will be very solid for us.

    CTC has the chance to run a 3 guard set with what we have where each perimeter player brings something different than what we had. We do not have a kid like Abell who can be a combo guard and actually handle the ball. We do not have an AE type who can bomb from 22 feet out that is 6’6″. If Mo gets healthy we have the slasher we need from the perimeter. Hulls gives us heady play and structure with the chance to get hot from deep and VJIII is the mid range assassin. So Abell fits what we are looking for. With the others mentioned, do we need a 100% pure PG? I say no, not in a 3 guard offense.

    I am growing more and more happy with this decision!

  • walt

    VJIII and CWat are not slashers, therefore Remy should help alot, doing what he does best and allowing VJ and CWAT do what they do best. VJ and CWAT have proven to be very good players, but going to the basket is not in their pay grade. The 3 players coming in will make everyone on this team look very good. (IMO)

  • Dannon Brown

    B.J. Young is an absolute animal!! If you didnt watch the all star game he played in a few weeks ago…….. there were 2 kids that STOOD out above others and he was one of them. He will be a great collage player.

  • Dannon Brown

    Having seen just video clips of Remy i want to be careful with what i say. In comparison to our current gaurds he has superior ability to get to the rim, could potentially be the best ball handler (i would give Jordy the edge), and seems to play very smart with the ball not trying to force passes and such. His defense looks good, can move his feet and stay in front of people well. I see him playing 10-12 minutes a game if not more depending on how he transitions to the college game.

  • Dannon Brown

    to elaborate on minutes, i think he will start the season at 10-12 and depending on his transition to the game he may add minutes as the season goes on.

  • Anonymous

    I totally agree as well. And going back further, hasn’t IU’s offense for the entire decade been too heavy on perimeter dribbling/shooting and no attacking the basket? The only player who ever attacked the rim consistently was Eric Gordon, and his handle was severely limited once he broke his wrist. (Still got to the line a ton, though, it’s amazing in retrospect that his scoring stayed near 20 even when he couldn’t hit a jumper.)

    Who else has IU had that attacked off the dribble consistently, and did it well? Do you have to go back to AJ Guyton? I’m not saying Abell will be amazing, it’s just a type of guard that IU has to get with Crean’s offense. And with Yogi and Hollowell coming, I’d say he’s getting there.

  • Anonymous

    I think he plays quite a bit and may even start. I just do not think creek will be ready I really do not think Jones is a big ten player he has just stood out on a really undertalented team. I am just thankful that we are actually getting big ten talent finally! I’m sorry but Roth is a D3 player, Moore is D2 and Elston and BC are Mid-major.

  • Ricky

    Anybody know who Crean was giving a tour to today? Seemed like a bigger guy, and he didn’t look young enough to be apart of the 2013 or 2014 classes.

  • CreamandCrimson

    Anybody have any information on Yemi Makanjuola, class of 2011 JUCO player from Nigeria? All I can find is insider information that I don’t have access to. Rumor has it he is on campus today.

  • http://www.insidethehall.com/ Alex Bozich

    He’s not a JUCO. Played at Word of God in North Carolina last year and Oak Hill Academy the year before.

  • Ricky

    This is the guy I saw getting a tour from CTC.

  • Dannon Brown

    I have seen him range from 6’8 to 6’10 and he is ranked 70th C on ESPN but in some other recruiting recon website they have him as the 17th C…… big range.

  • RobD

    let’s not be insane guys. you’ve watched video of Abell in high school games.

  • Dannon Brown

    I think Creek will be ready this year, the injury was not as bad as last year and the time off should help the original injury heal up correctly. Keep in mind VO and WS will come back bigger, better and more efficient (idealy). I have to disagree a bit on VJIII, he isnt the quickest or the strongest but uses his body well and can hit from the mid range all day long. I think he suffers from a team that doesnt attack well. You dont set a state record for assists when you arent a pretty good player. I think VJ has a great season this year.

  • oldred1976

    I like ,attacks the rim! I like,stays with his man. I like, can change the scoreboard quickly whats not to like. All we have to do is look down the bench and say ,good get Coach.

  • Dannon Brown

    What are you thinking is insane? 10-12 minutes? We have to replace 22.4 from Rivers, Roth plays 8 and moore plays 6. 36 minutes are there to be had , figure healthy creek (hopefully) takes the majority, you add a few to VO and WS likely take a few away from Jordy’s 31….. there is an easy 10-12 for him to have. Add Etherington in there for a few minutes. I have seen Austin play in person a few times and it depends on which kid shows up and with which attitude. He will some minutes but i dont see him getting alot (etherington).

  • Diesel

    Well, it wouldn’t be a surprise now then would it?

  • Diesel

    We were #26 before adding Remy.

  • Bucky

    So you’re saying losing him would have dropped us to #26.

  • Anonymous

    As long as he has a solid handle on the ball, he sounds like a good point guard to me… Attacks the rim, unselfish, can hit shots, and play defense. I am already excited for this next season, should be interesting to see how this team does.

  • Jburtis

    he didnt play at Oak Hill

  • SCHoosier

    If he is as good as advertised defensively..IU can really use him next year. Other than VO who can you really count on to make it tough on an opponents perimeter stars?

  • http://www.insidethehall.com/ Alex Bozich

    Yemi Makanjuola ’11 showed some real nice flashes while playing with the New York Panthers. A 6’8 power forward out of Oak Hill Academy (VA), Makanjuola did not get much run playing for the powerful OHA, but he is definitely a Division I player. Makanjuola rebounds, plays smart, can block shots, and scores a bit.

    http://blog.northstarbball.com/2010/06/15/rumble-in-the-bronx-day-two-rundown.aspx

  • Anonymous

    He seems Remy, willing and Abell

    Go ahead and print up the t-shirts

  • Anonymous

    Now that was clever!

  • Anonymous

    Will.

  • Anonymous

    Great info, thanks fopr the link.

  • Anonymous

    Also great info.

  • Anonymous

    Everyone is clever today!

  • Anonymous

    What is the point of this post? You are just like me, you don’t actually KNOW anything. And how much of a surprise can it be when it must be two out of the ten non-freshman scholarship players?

  • Anonymous

    Jordan Crawford is on the mark. But there are more options in addition to dribble attack the rim and perimeter shooting. What about down low force and great 12-18′ shooting by D J White?

  • Anonymous

    Exactly!

  • Anonymous

    Wish he were ours. Instead of being ranked #26, we would be around #12.

  • Anonymous

    IU has had plenty of post scoring, both high and low, from Jared Jeffries to Jeff Newton to Kirk Haston to DJ to Killingsworth. I obviously wasn’t making an either/or point. Any team with realistic conference/national title hopes has to be balanced. That means able to score in a variety of ways.

  • Anonymous

    Lets be honest. When you think of Jordan’s season with IU, do you remember a lot of decisive dribble drives? Or do you remember a lot of indecisive pounding the ball into the floor dribbling around the perimeter, followed by a forced jumper? The difference between Crawford doing that and IU’s current guards is that Crawford was an NBA talent, and he would hit the shot. But Jordan Crawford, more often than not, was the poster child for perimeter dribbling and shooting.

  • Anonymous

    Mo Creek was pretty effective prior to his injury.

  • Anonymous

    and Loop, you admittedly “don’t KNOW anything.”

  • Anonymous

    “collage player” …is that where you take parts of other players, cut them out and put them together to make one, giant picture?

  • Anonymous

    No, I don’t know more than anyone else knows, which is that there will need to be deflections in the program in order to stay under the player limit.

    Most people expect a Capo, Roth or Elston to transfer in order to make up that space. If these guys were to go, I don’t think that would be much of a surprise to anyone.

    However, just speculating, if someone like Will Sheehey were to leave the program, I feel rather confident to say it would catch people by surprise. That said, I think it is fair to say that someone like Sheehey or Oladipo would consider such a move with Etherington / Abell / Patterson / Hollowell / potentially Harris coming.

    To me, it will be interesting to read the discussion as people hypothesis about who these players will be, because it would be way too easy for Capo and Roth to just walk off into the sunset.

  • Anonymous

    I just think that it is irresponsible and mean-spirited to speculate without any real information and use a great kid’s name as part of the speculation. “Will Sheehey” does NOT deserve to be in your hypothetical speculation! He is a great young Indiana basketball player and a big part of our future success! How many times have you read a post (not necessarily on ITH) where someone says ” I read where X is leaving…” and then it becomes some sort of “fact” in subsequent Blog comments. That is just wrong!

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