Yes, I do know this much, Bawa wanted to stay at IU. But he also wanted to get on the floor. He was told that he would see very little time on the floor and it was “suggested” that he could develop more elsewhere. He was told to move on in a very nice way.

nobody is talking about throwing him out the door. but there are legitimate concerns about his ability to grasp the offense and play without having to think about it. he has tons of athletic ability but pretty poor judgment (did you watch him play this year?) and probably saw so little PT because of it.

That’s an excellent point, BGleas. It’s just a bit of a leap from where we are right now is what I was trying to say (not very well, I guess). I still look at 2011 as an opportunity to add a piece to an already promising two-man class and I think Crean feels the same as he is still trying to balance out his classes. A six-man class in 2012 is a little concerning to me, as great as it would be to land Harris. However, if some of our guys pan out as early entrants into the NBA or we have simple attrition, that probably works itself out. If Crean takes a chance on 2011, I say go for a big.

Come on, Loop. You’re just being contrary this Friday. Of course Stevens wouldn’t throw Elston out the door the same way Crean wouldn’t when he was staring at his roster at the time. He needed a warm body. Granted Elston was not a stiff coming out of high school. He was a player with a good pedigree and some accolades. But those guys don’t always work out and he has shown himself to be less than serious about himself on the court, at times. He could be our lazy-eyed psycho with a jumpshot, but he’s a finesse player who hasn’t figured out how to play defense and it’s not all Crean’s fault as you would have us believe.

Casey has a point man. And PJ hasn’t proved a thing. he might even reclassify to 2013. That is another 2 season without a true C. I do not want the #57 ranked C on our team. that is the thinnest position out there so to take #50 whatever is like having the #233rd SG in the nation. I do not want that guy either.

Elston showed little more than being the class clown last season. He is not improving and Elston needs to look in the mirror and quit whining every time he gets a foul called on him. No one in America plays post defense worse than DE and his alligator arms and hand near his shoulders. Put thye weightroom to use, spread your legs, bend your knees, extend those arms and center the guy in your chest….not hard, but apparently it is for DE. That is not on CTC. I guarantee at the least CTC and staff is teaching simple post D.

He would not throw him out the door, just put him at the end of the bench due to his ridiculously awful defense. You have to play D to get on the floor at Butler.

Oh, so Peter Jurkin is now a questionable recruit in your opinion? Cody Zeller and 2012 were Crean’s first recruiting challenges. What position did he fill first in the 2012 class? Center. A center the ITH nation has been pretty stoked about since he committed, so don’t start poking holes in Jurkin. What other centers, who weren’t already being courted by top programs, was Crean supposed to get in on earlier and make a compelling argument that they were looking at a viable school? Insane.

I feel like Tom Crean and his staff are at a bar seeing all these pretty women. They are approaching these women, saying hi, but no one wants to go ahead and buy them a drink or ask them out.

Debate with me not some fantasy. I did not say that it was “all” Crean’s fault, did I? Admit your misrepresentation. But a big part of getting Elston to improve is coaching!

Wrong! There are no 7′ players in junior high school. Do you remember Zadok (sp) at Duke in 2010! I do. Coach K taught him a lot about post defense in 2-3 years!

Been away from the net but time to catch up and stir it up…..Here we go….

+ This kid is bigger than Traylor, as athletic, and some hate him already because for some reason he is compared to Tijan and Bawa….help me understand this one?

+ Newsflash…We don’t need Gary Harris and he can’t defend the post nor does he block shots? I know you would love to have the super 6, and I would too but when we roll up against wisky going 6’2 pg and everyone else is 6’8 to 6’10 how much will another wing help us.

+ Hello, I am a twisted ankle, if I show up on your boy Cody, your post will be the same one’s you had the past two years…how would you enjoy that? We need interior, no ball needing post players, who rebound, defend, on ball and weakside.

+ If you love rankings you will love the fact the the kid Derrick Williams wasn’t ranked in rivals top 150…you know the guy from Arizona that played himself into a NBA pick during the NCAA tourney….Rankings mean absolutely squat.

What up Gleas?

I think he is an important get because we do not have good depth in the frontcourt. TP is our only respectable defender and if we want to get significantly better by next year I think improving post defense is at the top of the list.

Wrong! If you actually compare their stats through their sophomore years you would see that Elston’s are better. Btw Zoubek was 7’1/250.

due to the lazy eye?

Is that sourced?

Internet rumors are great…first internet fans start questioning PJ because he’s been injured. Then it turned into questions of whether he should go to prep school for a year. Now “he might even reclassify”. Did I miss something?

Marsh, this is more like doing your due diligence. CTC will leave no rock unturned when it comes to recruiting.

I prefer to call it a strabismus

Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for adding an ’11, although I think CTC has to be positive he’d contribute next season. We can’t afford to waste a scholly on someone that can’t see the court next season. Not necessarily a stud, but a contributor.

Had to Google that one and it’s actually a real thing. You’re in with that for the 2011 class assuming you can rebound, block shots, have a knife collection, and like to kick dogs & cats that are either gold or black.

His name really is “God’s Gift!” It’s a sign!

Rakeem Christmas came on campus for a visit a LONG time ago. So I don’t think the gameplan was to wait til the last minute.

Your previous posts all seem to assume that there are a decent amount of legit big men out there that aren’t projects. Unfortunately there aren’t many 6’8+ kids with developed skills (that’s why Sullenger/Zeller were coveted)…so projects are what you’re going to get

That is really surprising given your namesake. As a freshman Ube (sp) Blab was a gangly, weak, red-headed, string-bean with no shot, except for a lay up over 6’5 high school guys. His last two years, he developed into a guy with a terrific half-hook shot and very good footwork, who could guard premier players like Sam Perkins. Most Bigs take 5 full years and totally change their game after high school. Zeller will be an exception because he is so skilled now, but his brother, Tyler at NC, has dramatically improved his game. I do give Crean credit for teaching Jordy how to dribble into traffic and not lose control from year 1 to year 2. You have to have Big men that you give the time to develop over 5 full years as well as the McDonalds All-American who can play right away.