The Minute After: Purdue

Thoughts on a 67-53 loss to Purdue:

Tonight’s performance reminded us a bit of the Hoosiers of old.

Missed shots — 22-of-62 from the field for 35.5 percent, 2-of-13 from three for 15.4 percent.

Blocked shots — eight swats for Purdue with JaJuan Johnson notching four of those.

Credit is due to Matt Painter’s kids, who entered the game at fourth in the Big Ten in allowing 1.05 points per possession to their opponents. Purdue’s defense — which held the Hoosiers to a season low 24 first-half points and a season low points total in a loss  – was perhaps the best these Hoosiers have seen all season. They were physical. They took away the three-point shot. They protected the paint and the rim. They got after an Indiana team that hadn’t played a road contest in over a week, that had been bolstered by a home crowd of late and that is without Christian Watford and Maurice Creek.

The Hoosiers simply struggled all night to establish anything on the offensive end.

Still, Indiana never lacked for effort and kept fighting — and that’s sometimes all you can ask for in a road bout like this against the No. 12 team in the country.

Though the Hoosiers never grabbed a lead or tie in the second half, they were within striking distance (4-10 points) until the clock became its enemy and there just wasn’t any time left to mount a run. Of course, only scoring four points in the last 4:54 of the game — a rough 1-of-10 stretch with two made Will Sheehey free throws — didn’t help matters.

But that was the story of the night for Indiana. Nothing doing on offense, as Purdue’s defense was just too much for them to overcome.

Other thoughts:

+ Another impressive performance for Sheehey tonight, save for that fast break he tried to lead in the first half that led to a charge call on him. He scored a career-high 14 points (5-of-12 from the field, 1-of-3 from three, 3-of-3 from the line) and had some strong takes to the hole. He also chipped in three boards, two assists a steal and a block.

+ As has happened on many occasions this season, the Hoosiers got dominated at the line. Purdue went there with frequency (23-of-28, 82.1 percent), while Indiana managed only seven trips — though they hit them all.

+ All and all, Indiana did a pretty solid job on JaJuan Johnson, who only went 4-of-10 from the field. Though, seven free throws allowed him to score 15 points in total and he did notch seven boards as well. The same can’t be said for the defensive job on the struggling-of-late E’Twuan Moore, who pumped in 25 points (7-of-15 from the field, 3-of-6 from three, 8-of-10 from the line). At one point the second half, Moore burned Jeremiah Rivers around the rim on successive Purdue possessions, and Crean pulled Rivers in favor of Daniel Moore.

You know it was a big night for E’Twuan if it comes to something like that.

  • Anonymous

    I have to be honest, I found Dakich to be extremely irritating last night.Of course, he wasn’t of the Stephen Bardo level but I think Dakich has let his 2nd 15 minutes of fame give him the big head.

  • NC Fat Boy

    The turnovers in this game by IU were disappointing and resulted in IU’s inability to generate offensive momentum, especially in the first half.

    Someone posted about Johnson not getting called for fouls, and I think he was right, those that are known for blocking shots don’t get called as much. The block under the basket on Oladipo, was a clean block, but that was only after he hit Vic’s forearm on the way up.

    Pritchard has shown vast improvement, but he still tends to flail at the shooter. As long as he does that, he’s gonna get called for it, even if he doesn’t touch the shooter.

    When Sheehy turns it on, he’s awesome. The problem is he gets excited and then loses control… He’ll only get better….

    I don’t believe the return of Christian Watford will be good for this team right now. The problem in the first half of the season was that everyone on the IU team was looking for Christian to score. With him out, they’ve all had to step up. What will happen when he comes back? I would like to see Christian come back and play in the post. Leave the dribbling and driving to the guards and be the recipient near the basket of the excellent passing of Hulls. We have no inside game and need a presence. I’m not saying he should never shoot a 3, but we need him in the paint.

    This team is growing with Watford on the bench, and I’m afraid that will cease when he returns…

    J

  • Anonymous

    Speedway:

    I concur with your assessment. I religiously read both sites. Over here someone may disagree with my opinion but it always remains civil. I have never posted on the other site but I do like to see what rumors–well-founded or far-fetched–seem to be making the rounds.

    ITH Rocks With Class!

  • Anonymous

    Jerry:

    I think a lot of what Will or Vic become next year has to do with what happens in the weight room in the offseason. I especially think Vic with an extra 10-12 lbs of muscle and an even more intense attitude, if that’s possible, could be a real defensive and rebounding star–Jimmy Thomas type.

  • Anonymous

    This is another example of why I hope we clean up our act at AH. I still hesitate to take my grandkids to a game for fear of having an experience similar to yours.

  • Anonymous

    Should have gone ahead and voiced the same concerns that you guys have about VJ3 instead of being concerned about people thinking that I’m just hating on him. I feel like he is an important part of this team and can be a big help to this team but necessarily the way that he is currently trying to help the team. Thought maybe it was just me when I was thinking about what was different from the games that he sat out versus the games since he has been back. I don’t think he will come off of the bench next year, but IMHO, that would probably be the best thing for the team as a whole. The last possession of the Iowa game was a perfect example of maybe the biggest thing that he does that drives me crazy. Last shot of the game with only a few seconds left and when the ball is inbounded to him he casually dribbles it into the front court and pretty much takes time to pound out a few more dribbles. Damn it, show some urgency in a situation like that, hit another gear or give it to someone that will and doesn’t just wave others off.

    I think Crean should take the talk he had with JR after last season, modify it to fit VJ3′s situation and laid it out there to him. We all see how much that helped this team when JR ” got it ” and I think we could have similar results, if not better, if Crean could get VJ3 to, ” get it “, so to speak.

  • Anonymous

    Should have gone ahead and voiced the same concerns that you guys have about VJ3 instead of being concerned about people thinking that I’m just hating on him. I feel like he is an important part of this team and can be a big help to this team but necessarily the way that he is currently trying to help the team. Thought maybe it was just me when I was thinking about what was different from the games that he sat out versus the games since he has been back. I don’t think he will come off of the bench next year, but IMHO, that would probably be the best thing for the team as a whole. The last possession of the Iowa game was a perfect example of maybe the biggest thing that he does that drives me crazy. Last shot of the game with only a few seconds left and when the ball is inbounded to him he casually dribbles it into the front court and pretty much takes time to pound out a few more dribbles. Damn it, show some urgency in a situation like that, hit another gear or give it to someone that will and doesn’t just wave others off.

    I think Crean should take the talk he had with JR after last season, modify it to fit VJ3′s situation and laid it out there to him. We all see how much that helped this team when JR ” got it ” and I think we could have similar results, if not better, if Crean could get VJ3 to, ” get it “, so to speak.

  • HoosierSmitty

    Quick takes after reading some comments:

    Ugly game, good fight.
    Tough loss, but expected result.
    Gotta hit a 3 when you’re open, boys.
    Sheehey is a stud in the making.
    Pritchard didn’t throw down a dunk, but still impressed me.
    Foul disparity was troublesome, but not convinced it’s as bad as it looked.
    Crean still needs to go off on a ref soon, though, preferably at a home game.
    Moore stepped up for Purdue and Johnson did just enough.
    Barlow is a punk.
    Purdue’s fans continue to be pathetic.
    PU, we’ll smell, er, see you in Bloomington.
    Oh, and we’ll send the Boilers back nursing a loss.

  • Kelin Blab

    Can someone explain to me why I should be upset about PU’s IU sucks chant.
    Isn’t that what they are supposed to say if not worse?

    Last year a Purdue fan and his IU girlfriend were sitting in front of me at AH and and for 94% of the game the comments were centered around multiple fans love and passion for his women if you know what I mean! The guy laughed it off ….my point is.. Another buddy of mine said if Purdue played the Taliban he would cheer for the Taliban.

    IU and Purdue hate each other with a passion….IU sucks is mild!

    What do you think IU fans are going to say and do when PU comes to AH and take an asswhuppin in two weeks….it will be BRUTAL.

  • Kelin Blab

    Runelord….in my perfect world I would have Dakich and Gus Johnson do every game. I think he is funny, insightful, and knows what is going on….disagree on this one brother….

  • JerryCT

    Not sure he comes out after missed shots. I believe his shot selection is actually pretty good. He seems to take more open ones than Hulls or Jones for example ( even CW for that matter ).

    I think he comes out for having made a defensive error . He is getting better at everything but too slowly for me to have the same excitement about next year as I originally had for this year ……………. really hope I am wrong

    1957 ?? Nice year , SB Central won the HS State Championship over Crispus Attucks

  • since1957

    correct………..SB Central was lead by John and Sylvester Coleman and Herbie Lee. John was Mr. B. that year. 1957 was the 1st year I remember cheering for IU.

  • since1957

    correct………..SB Central was lead by John and Sylvester Coleman and Herbie Lee. John was Mr. B. that year. 1957 was the 1st year I remember cheering for IU.

  • Hoosier in Ohio

    I agree, the officials were one way, for PU all night, sure Johnson blocked TP 4 times maybe 5. Each time there was body contact and a bit of the arm at least twice. Purdue pushed, shoved and had hand hand contact all night with IU players, not one call. Almost every time Purdue would drive for the basket a foul was called, always on IU, a couple of times obvious charges. Every time an IU player would drive and get hit it was either a blocked shot or no call. Either the Refs are protecting the home team or they become blind when it comes to PU. I never saw TC get on the Refs, he did get in O’s face and yank him out of the game. This emotion would have been better spent on the REF’s. I am still waiting for one good called play from the bench after a time out, either the players don’t listen or TC doesn’t get his play across. The out of bounds and last minute plays should be automatic for the players, they should have been practiced many times.
    Our defense has came a long way. It is much better than 6 games ago but we still
    don’t know when to help and when not to. When we should be helping we either don’t or we get there too late. When we shouldn’t be helping we do. This again comes down to coaching and recognizing who we are guarding and who our teammates are guarding. This should be discussed in practice and reminded before the game and at timeouts. Pretty basic but TC doesn’t seem to prepare for either these offense or defensive plays. I still believe TC is a really good re-cruiter but he has along way to go to be a good college bench coach. Let’ hope he improves for next year.

  • Hoosier in Ohio

    Rivers did a terrible job on Etwaun, and had no offense in his game, seemed he was running the clock down all night. Why can Rivers play so poor a defense, shoot air balls and miss point blank layup and stay in the game while Victor gets yanked for missing a difficult dunk?? Occasionally I see TC playing favorites like this and it is never going to win games. Where would we be without the two freshman. They both are really good athletes and can create shots. Both should be playing ahead of Rivers and let Rivers should be coming in and sub from time to time. IU would then be a much better ball club.

  • Anonymous

    That was a good hustle play, but I would have liked to see him keep the ball in bounds by catching it and saving it to an Indiana player. Freshman mistake. VO and Sheehey are definitely something special in the makings.

  • Anonymous

    The fact that the ball is in Pritchard’s hands 15 feet from the basket with less than 5 seconds on the shot clock is a problem.

  • Anonymous

    It is sad that the worst fans in the conference are rooting for the two best teams in the conference. (Purdue, Ohio State)

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    Actually, his results weren’t all that bad when you consider he should have shot 4-6 FT’s also. He may have only hit 1-2 but at least it would have got Johnson in foul trouble!

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    I believe we did see some creativity and new wrinkles before Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, and Minnesota. I am honestly about ready to concede that the team can’t add anything or do anything that different right now because they are spending too much time trying to get individual guys ready to play right now with the injuries. I think if CWat, Jones, and Mo were still on the floor full time we would still be seeing some different looks. I took a look at the team on the floor against PUke last night and wondered, “Man, how can these guys even practice and get better with what they have right now?”.

    I’m beginning to think it’s a legitimate excuse. At first I thought CTC was just covering himself if they didn’t play well but that hasn’t been the case. These guys are killing themselves. They just don’t have the skill. Think about it. Roth, Sheehey, and VO are getting substantially more minutes and they are probably the three guys on the team (Roth due to lack of time and injuries) that have the lowest grasp of the system.

    I don’t want to make excuses for them but it makes sense.

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    He dunked one pretty thunderously!

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    Nah, I expected it and hope we can return the favor with the “Overrated” or “Early Exit” chants on the 23rd!

  • Diesel

    Agreed Mike. It also hurts that you can pretty much narrow it down to one of two guys who are going to take the shot. Our team is just not to the point where most of the guys on the floor are a threat to score the basketball.

  • Andrew

    Respectfully, I couldn’t disagree more. Sheehey, as a true freshman, is already playing at a much higher level than Hornsby did as a 5th-year senior. He can do many things well. Hornsby was the ultimate specialist, the player who shot 20 free throws a season b/c all he did was shoot 3s. Hornsby was a taller, more athletic Roth (but not as good a shooter IMO).

  • Diesel

    Yeah, I see what you are saying. My take is that CTC believes in his players. He values his guys, he values experience, and for as good as Rivers ad been playing CTC believed he would come through. I’m not saying this is right, just what I see. I do think early in the year he did this to a fault which is why the Northwestern game changed things, he finally said enough is enough and yanked guys and went off.

  • defendtherock

    I’m telling you….chanting Lit-tle Bro-ther is the best thing we could do to them. They hate that we have been brutal, and yet we still matter more than they do.

  • Diesel

    I get the point of your post, but I take issue with “kept their hands up” – reaching, grabbing, slapping, holding. Just what I saw. When Moore swatted Verdell, there were two fouls on the way to the hole and he clobbered his arm on the block -out of bounds to IU. Hell, I counted three fouls. That’s a disparity in my book.

    Our defense has been improved, unless you count that closeout by Roth. Ugly.

  • Diesel

    Both were ranked in the 140′s I believe.

  • Diesel

    Good 2 cents. Welcome to the ITH community.

  • Diesel

    Just off memory, they have Donnie Hale and some other guy from North Caroline next year who recently tore his ACL. Then also have Rapheal Davis, Jay Simpson, and Kyl Molock (one of the latter two tore his ACL as well recently). Just got Bryson Scott in the 13 class.

  • Anonymous

    I went to high school with him. Couldn’t stand him then and can’t stand him now.

  • Anonymous

    They hand check more than any team in the country, and never get called for it.

  • KFDCHEV

    Jim Burr was the lead official when Coach Knight threw the chair in the PU GAME IN 85′.

  • Anonymous

    If those fouls are called it possibly puts someone on the other team in foul trouble, and maybe more importantly, it also puts us in the bonus a lot quicker and with us shooting the % we do as a team that would make quite a difference.

  • Anonymous

    Agree, plus he makes it fun for an IU fan to listen to without him sounding like a homer while doing it.

  • millzy32

    I do like “Little Brother”. I guess “Red Headed Step-Child” is a little harder to get everyone chanting.

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