• Anonymous

    It is the end of the first half. I am totally disgusted in Coach Crean’s substitutions! Sheehey played great and after starting, but sat almost the rest of the half. Danny Moore, Matt Roth (1/4 on 3 pointers and countless bad defensive plays) and Capo just are not good enough to play in the Big 10! So play the guys that can play: Watford, Hulls, Sheehey, Oladipo, Rivers, Elston and Pritchard. Actually try to WIN the game! If those guys foul out THEN and only THEN play someone else!

  • Anonymous

    I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO DISGUSTED WITH A TEAM AND IT’S COACH IN MY ENTIRE LIFE. Every time I think they’re improving they come back with a total lack of effort. This is ridiculous, this kind of apathy CANNOT be tolerated by Fred Glass.

  • LTTelamon

    I don’t see lack of effort. Maybe you’re watching a different game?

  • Anonymous

    Tom Crean is a very poor game coach. But even more important, he is very poor at season strategy. You have to gear the team to maximum energy and effort for the games that you can win, not for the games that you basically cannot win-like at WI. The four worst efforts for this team came in the two games in Las Vegas, at home against PSU and at Iowa. Those are the games Indiana had to win to have a decent season. But those were the games where we did not show up to play. That is 100% on the coaches. The two losses at WI and MN were encouraging because we did play well but the home team was never worried about getting the W. But how can you ever explain the total failures to show up and to play at home against PSU and on the road at Iowa?

  • Anonymous

    I am watching the 19 point deficit against a very very poor Iowa team as we speak. I see a total lack of effort, lack of physical competitiveness and understanding on defense, and on rebounding. Indiana did not come prepared to play! What do you see?

  • LTTelamon

    What I see is you overreacting to us playing poorly. Hate on the coach all you want. In a year or two, when this team is in the NCAA Tournament at the completion of the rebuilding process, you can jump back on the bandwagon with the rest of us.

    We had a poor shooting night. I don’t know how you can attribute that to poor coaching. Sheehey, who you claim should have gotten more minutes, hasn’t been any better than anyone else. Even our upperclassmen are making mistakes. However, even right now, with the team down 15 (or even 20), I haven’t seen them give up or stop hustling yet. It’s ridiculous for you to claim there’s a lack of effort on the floor. There are guys diving for balls in a game that’s all but lost. Lack of execution? Sure. Lack of talent? Undeniably, we’re lacking guys who can score with Hulls misfiring, Creek out for the year, and Jones out indefinitely. Your bombastic, overblown rhetoric is likely born of frustration, but it’s still absurd.

  • LTTelamon

    Results-oriented thinking. If you were expecting any better than a .500 season from this squad, your expectations were too high. If you’re not going to appreciate an excellent performance from this team at Wisconsin, where virtually no one wins, there is no making you happy. We can resume this discussion in a couple years.

  • Anonymous

    Diving for balls does not equal a physical, competitive effort on defense and rebounding. I do not see that. I don’t “hate” on anyone. I hate the quality of basketball that Indiana is playing. Running from behind and making a foul when you are beaten off of the dribble or out of position, diving for the ball that you lost and being called for the foul, being a step slow for the loose ball and fouling the opponent needlessly, etc. is not effort, it is poor play.

  • defendtherock

    Outoftheloop,
    You are pissing me off even more. We are all frustrated, but shut up already! In reply to your message at halftime, Sheehey did not play that weill and he was in foul trouble, which is the reason for him being on the bench. C’mon man, think before speaking.
    The team is fragile, and there is no debating it. VJIII being out put us on our heels. I will say that our defense has regressed from what it was the last few games, but that couldve had something to do with TP and sheehey getting 2 fouls at the beginning of the game. At that point a short handed team got WAY worse. Danny Moore came in and played pretty much awful. If Jordy shot like he did today at Wisconsin, we probably lose by 30. Its tough to win when only one player can score, and that is what we have today. Blame the coach all you want, but I am going to let it slide today. This team has dealt with a lot. Im as pissed as anybody, but injuries and general piss poor luck is out of everyones hands.

  • LTTelamon

    That is not lack of effort, that is lack of execution. I would not have argued that point. We are below the standard level of talent in the league, particularly with Jones and to a lesser extent Creek out. Hulls shooting poorly means there was no reliable second option, and the poor defense has been an ongoing theme this year because most guys aren’t quick enough to move their feet instead of blocking and the freshmen are still prone to freshman mistakes.

  • Anonymous

    Tough luck!

  • Anonymous

    We have some games this year and some good players. This is NOT 2008-09! Of course you can expect good play now!

  • LTTelamon

    No. You can’t. The rebuilding process was and is still a 5 year process. This team was utterly decimated.

  • defendtherock

    Just asking….who are our good players, in your opinion? Also, who played well today, in your opinion?

  • defendtherock

    SS9821,
    How do you put this all on the coach? Who are the good players on this team? Who played well today?

  • Anonymous

    Sorry piss poor luck has nothing to do with piss poor defense. No way does VJIII not playing have anything to do with giving up 90+ points

  • defendtherock

    I disagree. They whole mindset of the team was shaky from the jump. Verdell had taken over as a leader on this team lately, and did a nice job. We had nothing in that regard today. Jordy was broke, Watford did nothing until we were down by double digits. We got nothing but mistakes out of the freshmen. Tom Pritchard played a step slow today and that couldve been because of foul trouble limiting him in the first half. The whole balance of the team was off and I think a lot of it had to do with missing Verdell.

  • Anonymous

    well from post game comments CW is in the doghouse bigtime and well deserve. And before CW fans come back with his 30 point effort, review the film and see how many he gave up on the defensive end. all around effort points go to MR .. no effort points to our bigs (and I use bigs lightly). As for JH, the guy has the flu and he is puking in the locker room before the game. VO more concern in trying to make the ESPN highlight films instead of simply making a play. JR’s defensive effort took a step back today. Totally a piss poor effort by the team as a whole

  • Anonymous

    defendtherock, disagree with what?

  • Hoosier in Ohio

    I must totally agree, again we are playing a team that has about the same or less talent, On the floor you see lots of hustle, but not much execution on offense or defense. In the first half Iowa had to many easy shots because IU played poor man to man defense, the players still don’t know the basics of man to man. This is not the players fault but teribble coaching. Anyone that doens’t blame Coach Crean is just sticking his head the sand. The only players who show signs of any defense are the freshman and JR.
    It is obvious that this coach is not a teacher but just a re-cruiter. I suspect the other coaches at Marquete must have carried Crean. You judge a coach on how his players improve, in the Crean system most players seem to go the other way. If Crean and company don’t start teaching and get some results you may just start seeing the new re-cruits jumping ship, and can you blame them?

  • Anonymous

    Must be no VJ and 90+ points given up .. the game is a mindset and there was not a mindset today .. VJ not playing is only a part of it. Like any sport it is the next guy up. No one stepped up

  • Anonymous

    Not when I posted at the end of the first half, buddy.