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Consistency in “spirit” key for Hoosiers moving forward

by in Commentary | December 31st, 2010

BLOOMINGTON –- Watching Indiana basketball develop over the last two-plus years has been something akin to watching a college freshman trying to take an 400-level test while also trying to study the material.

Friday night certainly seemed like another such example, given the giant disparity in sheer talent between No. 2 Ohio State and IU, now 9-6 and 0-2 in the Big Ten.

But perhaps it’s a credit to Indiana that these games — where the gulf between the two teams is so easily recognized – have begun to serve an even more important purpose.

First of all, to be fair, they’re becoming harder to find. No longer are the Hoosiers as outmatched as they once were in either talent or depth.

Christian Watford, one game lost to back spasms aside, continues to put forth All-Big Ten performances. The more aggressiveness Tom Crean can coax out of Jordan Hulls offensively – and the more room Hulls can find on offense – the more dangerous he’ll become. Victor Oladipo continues to emerge offensively as well.

But by Crean’s own admission, Friday night served to highlight a problem in need of rapid correction as Big Ten play enters January. Seeking to compare his team’s effort Friday, when the Hoosiers struggled mightily on defense but never truly let the game slip away or their hustle wane until the end, to the loss last Monday to Penn State, Indiana’s coach was frank.

“If we’d have played with the same spirit and energy on Monday night that we had tonight – it’s not an excuse, we lost by 18 – but we’d have won the game,” he said of Penn State. “We would have won the game. We’d be 1-1, going to Minnesota.

“But we’re not.”

Indiana is not Ohio State. The Buckeyes, at least as 2010 turns into 2011, look like the best team in the country, with Duke simply warming their seat as conference play begins.

But Indiana is finally a team capable of competing with most – if not all – of its opponents in Big Ten play. There are obviously weaknesses, some that are imminently fixable and some that can only be corrected through time and in certain cases reinforcements.

Monday night against Penn State was hard for fans to swallow because it seemed so winnable, and not just because Indiana has historically owned the Nittany Lions.

Friday night supported that theory, even given the disparity in the final score.

Outmatched at essentially every starting position and probably three players deep into their bench, the Hoosiers never backed down. They still struggled with 3-point defense, they still turned the ball over 14 times (although that’s not actually awful) and they still lost by 18, but they certainly played with a kind of determination that said they refused to be intimidated by one of the country’s best teams.

That kind of attitude keeps you moving through mistakes, keeps your confidence up no matter the score or situation.

Following the 69-60 loss to Penn State, Crean expressed the concern that he felt his team did not believe it could win late in that game. It was a feeling he said was not replicated Friday night.

Indiana might not be able to cut away all its turnovers. It might not be able to communicate as well defensively as Crean would like. The Hoosiers are still an imperfect team.

Moving forward, however, the “spirit,” as Crean put it, that they brought Friday night, consistently, possession after possession, will be their greatest ally.

It must be reproduced for the rest of the season, as much as is humanly possible. Because not everyone is Ohio State, and the Big Ten schedule is still only two games old.

  • Anonymous

    “But Indiana is finally a team capable of competing with most – if not all – of its opponents in Big Ten play. ”

    I think I’m gonna need to see more before I can agree with anything like that.

    An 18 point loss at home is an 18 point loss at home, and I’d say it roughly translates to losing by 30 in Columbus. That seems a lot like the bad old days when we all though Pritchard had some skill and were happy with Eric Suhr and “At least hey are trying hard”.

    I think, frankly, that this team pretty much sucks. The only games where we can say they legitimately outperformed expectations are tonight, an 18 point loss (I’d say it’s debatable) and the KY game, which we lost by 19.

    On the other hand, we’ve lost 4 games we could/should have won (BC, NIU, Colorado, and PSU).

    I’d say a team needs to win at least one game they weren’t a huge favorite in before I say they are capable of competing in the Big ten. That sounds like one of those things we all thought would be true by now, but frankly, I don’t think it is.

    We have no guard that can score, defend, and not commit stupid turnovers. That is table stakes in a real basketball conference, and we are sure as hell part of one of those this year. There’s a lot of Jordy love around here, but he is a total liability on defense. And Rivers can defend, but you don’t even need to guard him. And Verdell is so careless with the ball, I cannot speak reasonably WRT him.

    These kids need to defend the three, and their repeated failure to do so is distressing in the extreme. It’s making me doubt whether Crean can get them to do what he tells them.

  • Anonymous

    call it what you will; a moral victory, a huge loss, a game we shouldn’t be close in, whatever you want. the fact is this, our hoosiers played hard tonight and never once did i see them “quit”. this team showed heart and at this point in the rebuilding process that is all you can ask. i think we fail repeatedly as fans to realize two things.
    1. we are still in a rebuilding mode and we do lack the talent that we should have at IU year in and year out. this talent, along with the rest of the hoosier nation, is feeling pretty good after sipping on what the coach has been dishing out. (as far as recruiting goes) this should not stop these players from giving it all they have like they did tonight.
    2. this team is still young, very young. yes osu had some freshman that can play but they are supported by upperclassman. can you imagine what must go on at the practices in columbus? when you have top talent practicing against top talent you are only going to get better. we have this coming in the next few years. be patient! we will all look back on this rough stretch and laugh as we hang the 6th in assembly hall.

    keep fighting hoosiers!

  • Anonymous

    I think it’s really dangerous to play the “help is on the way” game. We’ve been down that road before, and it hasn’t always led to success. I generally think lots of us internet fans focus way more on recruiting than is warranted. Anybody remember how Delray Brooks was going to shake up the world (if you do, you are old like me)?

    This team, this year, needs to win more games in the big ten than last year’s team. All I’m saying is that I hope they do so. To be fair, I think they will. Patience is one thing, but I expect improvement.

    I guess they get a pass playing against the Buckeyes, who are so clearly superior, but that display against PSU was regression. We beat PSU by 6 in their gym last January.

  • Anonymous

    not disagreeing that we need to win more conference games this season. but this team is still young, help on the way or not these guys will get better. in time creek with get his legs back under him and his confidence back, watford will start to dominate more, and we will figure out a lineup and strategy that will get us wins. i am saying these guys are still young, our core is composed of sophmores. the more they play together the better they will get. maybe we can start shooting the 3s like we should be, we have shooters we just need some plays to get them open looks.

  • Anonymous

    NTRSE:

    I was watching the game with three of my buddies–we were IU freshmen back in ’67. I made the same comment that Delray Brooks was supposed to be the second coming. We also talked about Bracey Wright.

    I think the difference with the “help is coming” argument at this time, assuming all commitments come through, is that the sheer quantity of quality recruits over a period of three to four years has more potential for impacting the program than just one or two players in a given year.

    I would suggest impact of the classes that included Calbert Chaney, Greg Graham, Pat Graham, Chris Reynolds and Matt Nover followed by Damon Bailey and Alan Henderson is a more realistic comparison to what we can expect 2011-2014. Coming in as freshmen these recruits also had upperclass leadership in people like Eric Anderson and Jamaal Meeks.

    I really hope my evaluation of the current situation comes across as something other than an excuse. I am as frustrated as the next fan with opponents getting wide-open 3s and little or no consistent interior offense. I just don’t think we have the horses to succeed in the Big Ten at this time. We seem to have the heart but that will only go so far.

  • Kelin Oladipo

    I know we joke about the “help is on the way’ statement by our good friend Mike Davis but I heard a radio guy make a great point about that. He mentioned until a coach gets ‘his guys’ or ‘that one class’ in you can’t really see the success you are hoping for. He mentioned Coach K, Knight, and Painter all needed their guys in to begin to build that success and sustain it……and it has worked. He also mentioned ……none of those other guys were coming into a program like Crean did which was totally a drained swamp……..

    Having said that I can live with help is on the way. I look at a team like OSU last night with 4-5 NBA or professional prospects then I see…IU in a couple of years with the same….Zeller, Perea, Ferrell, Oladipo, Jurkin, Lyles, ….maybe Harris etc. And yes I said Oladipo…improve his ball handling, consistency on his shot…yep.

  • Luke72

    Beyond the stats, it’s gut check time for the Hoosiers. Don’t think it was a lack of effort but now it falls as much on the coaching staff as the players to go on the road and turn this around. Being able to recruit is great, but can you inspire a team to continue with an all out effort with the chances for post season play already slipping away. Let’s see if you got more than talk and can take this team in the direction that will lay a foundation to build on.

  • Anonymous

    Interestingly, IUPUI played OSU at Value City Arena and lost by 11 pts while Sullinger scored 40 points and shot 23 FT’s. They gave up 5 three point FG’s (5 for 11) to OSU.

    I am not sure that IU’s strategy of playing a zone with the shooters that OSU has and then staying with it on two occasions (first half letting lead extend to 12 pts and second half letting it get to more than 20 pts) was a great idea- due to the record number of 13 three pt FG’s that were allowed (13 of 19).

    This seems to be a frequent occurrence during the current losing streak- staying with a defense until the game is out of reach and then changing and clawing back alittle- fouling extensively down the stretch and sending the opponents to the FT line repeatedly. (OSU shot 38 FT’s last nite to IU’s 14)

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    Man, how bad has it when I’m reading your comment and I think to myself, “Man, it would be nice to have a couple players like Anderson and Meeks!”?

    They weren’t even in the top 100 of IU players of the past and I’d take them in a heartbeat!

    Is there anyone who has a machine that can splice JR Rivers and Jordan Hulls together? That would be great! Then we’d have a guard who was a great defensive player, had good size, and who could shoot!

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    Yeah, for some reason the deficiencies of this team are being highlighted this year even more than last:

    1) Opponents are shooting and making WAY more FT’s than we are
    2) Opponents are shooting a very high percentage against us
    3) We’re giving up a high number and percentage of 3-point FG’s this year
    4) We’re getting outscored in the paint even worse than last year
    5) Opponents’ big men are having field days against us like they’re playing against 8th graders

    The fact that our turnovers are actually decreasing a little is about the only improvement over last year that I see. It almost looks like good teams are beating us easier than they did last year and average teams are handling us too.

  • http://www.vccm.net/ iubase

    Happy new year….2011 – can’t wait till next november!

    OSU game was better than I thought it would be. Once IU got down by 15 it could have gotten ugly but they basically played even the last 3 quarters…..still think the only way we win games in BT is to have CW, Mo, and JR out there as our core for 25-30 minutes. VO should be there as well – the way he squeezed through screens and his quickness and hops are amazing. Don’t understand why these 4 are not out there together more. I would play them together so that they can develop confidence and chemistry – and they should have the talent and athleticism to win – not just make it close. Pretty clear to me that they are the horses we need to ride at this point…..please remember Mo is still 75% of what he should be – but he is getting better and all he needs is to hit 3-4 shots in a row and get his confidence back.

    Post play is a concern…My hope for the new year is for Chandler to go to class, listen, work hard – and be a good teammate and convince CTC he will help to build our future final four team – not a bad new years hope – otherwise, I hope we play like juniors and seniors….. but unfortunately reality (inconsistency) rears its ugly head (i.e PSU)…..

  • Anonymous

    Sometimes gene splices are disasters–you could end up with a smaller guy who can’t shoot or guard

  • Anonymous

    You mean David Lighty finally graduates? I know that SOB played at OSU with Clark Kellogg—he’s been there forever!

  • Anonymous

    I think I’ve figured out who Victor’s game reminds me of—Vic doesn’t shoot nearly as well, (but his attitude is a lot better) but the athleticism is reminiscent of John Starks.

  • Anonymous

    I believe “DOC” has already done that and his name is Austin Rivers.

  • N71

    Chandler is visiting Central Florida this weekend. Any word on why or how it went…is going? Can’t imagine much is going on New Years Day there. Weather and low hurdle grades/test wise I would be the main appeal I would think. I can’t figure out what he wants, flash/sleeze at Louisville, small nice school in Xavier, other. I’m confused, Chandler must be also.

  • http://www.insidethehall.com/ Alex Bozich

    He committed to Central Florida.

  • Garble

    Chandler committed to UCF last night. Next…Walter Pitchford?

  • Kelin Oladipo

    Pick Click….

    Chandler decommitts………..
    + By Tomorrow
    + Late January
    + By the end of the day

    I would be stunned if he actually went to Central Florida

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    Is Neon Boudreux still available? Oh, nevermind, if he was Cali”payoff” would have already sent him a Lexus.

  • Anonymous

    Not to nitpick, but the Bryce Jordan Center isn’t exactly a hostile environment. I was at that game last year and probably 1/5 of the couple thousand people there were IU fans. It was more of a neutral site win if anything.

  • BaseballBuc

    This is the time of year where Crean needs to get Jim Harbaugh out to talk to the team again. We beat Pitt after he talked to the team last year.

  • Anonymous

    what about a pick click on how many schools he commits to and then decommits from before he actually steps foot onto a college campus to play basketball?

  • Anonymous

    OH St looks great right now, but Thad played only 7 guys more than 7 minutes in the game against Indiana when they led by 12 or more virtually the whole game. He will wear out his super 6 players (the 7th is Lauderdale), and lose before the Elite Eight in the NCAA Tourney, just like last year. If Sullinger continues to get all of the fouls called his way he will be fine. But he had 4 fouls against IU, and IU had no one to force real post defense from him. When he sits OH St is not a dominant team, but they are still a good team. The referees continue to screw IU at home. How much longer will this last? We get zero calls at home and the rest of the Big 10 sees much better treatment. Fred Glass, you MUST raise Hell with the Big 10 front office discretely! You said in the article “and probably three players deep into their bench”, which is wrong. They only played 7 in a game with a big lead early. Sibert may be good at some point in his career, but his coach does not trust him in the game. OH St had two guys with 4 fouls and two guys with 3 fouls and he only got 7 minutes on the floor. We now have a set team: Watford and Oladipo, Elston, Hulls and Jones as starters; then Pritchard and Capo for Elston; then Rivers and Creek for the guards; then Sheehey for Victor and Watford. If IU really works hard with speed and emphasizes teamwork on offense and defense, then we will win some games, especially at home. Against the weaker teams, IU should play small with Watford down low, Oladipo on the crashing wing, and Hulls, Roth and Creek on the 3-point line.

  • Anonymous

    OH St will lose Lighty, Sullinger and Buford to the NBA next year. IL will lose McCamey, Tisdale and Davis to graduation. MN may lose 2-4 players to suspensions, graduation, etc. MI St will lose a number of quality players. Purdue loses Moore and Johnson and Hummel will be limited. IU loses Jeremiah Rivers. The worm HAS turned.

  • Anonymous

    I still say he reminds me of Jim Thomas.

  • Anonymous

    They must have near zero academic standards.

  • Anonymous

    Can you imagine Pitchford going up against Sullinger and Thomas? Not a pretty thought.

  • Devout Hoosier

    Why? Why? Why?
    Play Zone against Ohio St., especially Diebler. You can hustle, have decent defense, and have a great offense and you’re still guaranteed to loose by double digits. Guaranteed. It was a total concession of the game. Dakish tried to rationalize it and said the zone has to move quickly. Besides the fact that our zone is slow and horrible, no zone is quick enough to cover catch and shoot Diebler. He immediately hit a three pointer every time we transitioned to zone.

    I love Crean. He loves to play some zone to mix it up. He wants to play a lot of zone to cover our otherwise poor interior. But against some teams it simply is less than wise. It’s borderline too much caffeine when your brain tells you it’s a good game plan against Ohio St. Diebler will be the B10 ALL TIME LEADER. Surely Coach didn’t miss that in the scouting report.

  • BaseballBuc

    Vic = More athletic Jordan Crawford

  • Kelin Oladipo

    I gave this some thought today and tried to identify has this team improved from last year and here is what I have come up with:

    + We have added more quality depth. Sheehey and Victor are two guys last night that looked like they were as athletic as OSU.

    + This team competes longer: Last year this team got down early and quit early

    + The added strength has helped Hulls, Watford, and even Creek. After sitting out last year, Mo does look a little bigger, and just needs to regain his explosiveness

    + We finish better at the rim better. Remember all the block shots last year? Christian could not convert over people at all, big difference this year.

    + Our man to man, crazy as it sounds is better. I thought that was our better defense yesterday but we must sustain it longer. It is alot better when JR, Will, Victor, and Pritch are on the floor.

  • BaseballBuc

    Interested to hear your thoughts on VJIII. Has he improved from last year, or was it a byproduct of stepping up after Creek’s injury? In my mind, he has taken a step back. He has a real chance to just take this team over but he hasn’t done it. Not to say he can’t start playing really well and I hope he does but I expected a little more from him than what I’m seeing so far this year.

  • Anonymous

    I was at the game Monday, and I was at Assembly Hall. They lost. at home. to Penn State.

  • Anonymous

    I understand that, but you’re missing the point. This IU team essentially won a neutral site game (at Bryce Jordan) last year, and lost another one (at AH) this year. Assembly Hall isn’t the same raucous, hostile away venue it’s revered as without the students there. I get that the opponent is penn state, and there’s a stigma with that team, but the assertion that a team that beat them at BJC must beat them at AH during winter break doesn’t show an understanding of the foundation of a home-court advantage. Further, Penn State is noticeably improved this year, upgrading from “bad” last year to “mildly inconsistent.” So i’m not ready to call a close loss in a quiet AH “regression.” Save the doom and gloom for a 30 point loss at Iowa or something. This IU team is still quite young, and Penn State starts four seniors. You can slice it anyway you want, there’s no reason the line on that game should’ve favored IU. Come back next year if you want games like that to be a given win.

  • MillaRed

    It will be very interesting to see him after he hits the weight room in the off-season. We’ll bring out the best in him and Will. I think they both could start next season.

  • Anonymous

    I mentioned this to BaseballBuc on the TMA thread…I liken Vic to Rod Wilmont. Similar size/build, athleticism and skill set as a freshman. Rod had spot minutes/mop up duty because we had more talent back then, but the potential was there and really came to fruition as a senior. No doubt in mind the same will happen with VO, likely with a higher ceiling too.

    And I agree Kelin, Oladipo is a professional prospect. But I think we have to define what it means to be one. We touched on this a while ago re: Guy’s future prospects. What I’m getting at is that a professional in its basic definition is someone who is paid to play the game, whether that be in the NBA, NBDL or any foreign country for that matter.

    That said, being a pro prospect is not exactly tough to do these days considering the globalization of the sport. Watford will certainly get paid to play, as will VJ3 and Creek. Maybe not in the NBA or top-tier Euroleague teams like Olympiakos, CSKA, Maccabi Tel-Aviv. But somewhere these guys will make a living shooting a basketball for a few years.

  • MillaRed

    Buc I don’t see any difference in VJs game at all. He is not better or worse. He is the exact same player. Great mid range game, decent slasher that takes bad shots and has the worst unforced turnovers I have seen in the game.

    I think we know what we have in VJ, we have seen it for 2 years running and he looks like he has reached his ceiling to me.

  • MillaRed

    Watched the game this morning since we started NYE way too early.

    I have a very simple question for all of you, “Why in God’s name is Hightower on a basketball court at any level in this universe?” This guy is one word, “Embarrassing.”

    We just got blasted by another officiating crew. I knew we would lose the game but WTH is going on out there? Why is this happening to us? It seems like it is really inflated when we play top teams (see Kentucky). Sorry but that is frustrating to watch. We need a little help out there.

  • BaseballBuc

    Agreed. Would have liked to see him sure up his free throw shooting and 3 pt. shooting. If Jordy Hulls can develop a mid-range game, then VJIII should be able to hit free throws and threes.

  • Anonymous

    What is your point? That happy valley last year provided the same level of support as Assembly Hall does until the students come back?

    I don’t really buy any of that. We lost, at home, to a team we shouldn’t have lost to. Neither facility is a neutral site. They just aren’t. Crowd support is one part of home court advantgage, and I would contend it’s not the major one.

    Either way, how does the fact that there were more people cheering for IU in happy valley last year than there were Monday at AH (there weren’t, but whatever) support the post’s contention that we are more competitive than we were last year in the big ten? For that matter, how does the fact that we have good recruits coming in the next few years?

    I miss the days when there were no moral victories, let alone losses at home to teams that are no good that I’m told to forget because “they’re trying hard”. Frankly, I’m tired of that.

    Losing to Penn State at home, particulary the way we did it, is IMO a great reason for what you are calling “doom and gloom” (I’d call it a reality check).

    I’m just trying to be honest with myself and try to find evidence to support our conclusions. Remember earlier in the season when we had a great D because we held East Butthole state under 40″% from the field? I just have a feeling that saying we are competitive in the big ten is the same sort of thing.

    I wish they were better, really I do. And I think they are. But I’m not seeing a lot since the Vegas trip that suppports that conclusion.

  • Anonymous

    Couldn’t disagree with you more re: Creek as a core guy that should be getting 25-30 a game. What about Hulls?

    Mo’s confidence is shot…that wide open 3-pointer hitting the far side of the glass in the 1st half as well as the ball going through his hands on a pass from VJ is a microcosm of his struggles. On top of that, he’s not a strong defender. Unless he’s shooting lights out like Jordy, I just don’t think Crean can have him on the floor (hence the fact that he’s no longer starting).

    I don’t want to see Mo attempting another 3 to be frank. They are huge momentum killers. Some of his shots from beyond the arc aren’t even close.

    He had a nice runner in the lane, showing his soft touch and athleticism. If he sticks to that and plays within his skill set, he’ll be an effective option off the bench (~15 minutes). Next year we can unleash the Creek.

  • Anonymous

    Couldn’t disagree with you more re: Creek as a core guy that should be getting 25-30 a game. What about Hulls?

    Mo’s confidence is shot…that wide open 3-pointer hitting the far side of the glass in the 1st half as well as the ball going through his hands on a pass from VJ is a microcosm of his struggles. On top of that, he’s not a strong defender. Unless he’s shooting lights out like Jordy, I just don’t think Crean can have him on the floor (hence the fact that he’s no longer starting).

    I don’t want to see Mo attempting another 3 to be frank. They are huge momentum killers. Some of his shots from beyond the arc aren’t even close.

    He had a nice runner in the lane, showing his soft touch and athleticism. If he sticks to that and plays within his skill set, he’ll be an effective option off the bench (~15 minutes). Next year we can unleash the Creek.

  • Anonymous

    Couldn’t disagree with you more re: Creek as a core guy that should be getting 25-30 a game. What about Hulls?

    Mo’s confidence is shot…that wide open 3-pointer hitting the far side of the glass in the 1st half as well as the ball going through his hands on a pass from VJ is a microcosm of his struggles. On top of that, he’s not a strong defender. Unless he’s shooting lights out like Jordy, I just don’t think Crean can have him on the floor (hence the fact that he’s no longer starting).

    I don’t want to see Mo attempting another 3 to be frank. They are huge momentum killers. Some of his shots from beyond the arc aren’t even close.

    He had a nice runner in the lane, showing his soft touch and athleticism. If he sticks to that and plays within his skill set, he’ll be an effective option off the bench (~15 minutes). Next year we can unleash the Creek.

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    I think Pitchford is athletic enough to guard a guy like Thomas, but not Sullinger because of the obvious size difference. That’s okay though because he won’t be guarding the 5 anyway. Logic would hopefully say that Zeller would have those type guys and Pitchford would be on a guy like Thomas and I could see that being a successful matchup. He’s an athlete . . . have you seen that video of his reverse dunk in Vegas?

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    Yeah, I’m almost beginning to think that he is hurting himself playing this year because he’s adjusted his shot too much without his leg that he has no consistency. If and when his legs come back (probably next year) he’s going to have to readjust and there’s no telling how long it will take for him to get his stroke back?

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    This game plan was obvious and you can’t blame Crean for this one. Let me set this up for you:

    Sullinger had 40/19 against IUPUI and we’re not any stronger then them down low. If you don’t sag and allow Sullinger to have free reign of the lane then he’s going to go off and his shots are going to be of the much higher percentage variety than three-point FG’s. So, CTC chose to go with the lesser of two evils and hope that OSU has an off shooting night on the road. Unfortunately, they had just the opposite!

    I think that was the game plan and besides, we are the same fans who have been screaming for IU to go to the zone because we suck at M2M and the zone had showed promise against BC, pUKe, and Colorado.

    I don’t think it would have mattered. He was taking a chance and it didn’t pay off but I think it had more to do with our talent level and speed this game versus his coaching. Now, in the past three games I blame coaching along with the talent and speed, but this one is one the guards for being too slow to sag and then recover.

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    I thought the same thing Milla and I have two theories for you guys to review:

    1) We are just so bad that we haven’t (and the coaching staff hasn’t) earned the respect of the officials yet so coaches like Matta/Izzo/Painter and their teams are going to get the calls until their is some stability and tradition back at IU?

    2) Bob Knight roamed the sidelines for 30 years and made life hell for officials and now they feel like they have free reign to screw IU at every opportunity?

    One thing is for sure, gone are the days when IU got most of the questionable/close calls at the Hall! I do not look forward to the trip to Mackey. If we’re getting screwed this bad at home then we won’t have a player left to play there. We better take some ITH fans along to suit up so we have a few extra bodies or it could be a forfeit!

  • Anonymous

    I wouldn’t go that far Ace. I mean, he can’t go what would amount to be nearly 2 full seasons without playing real game minutes and expect to revert back to his Freshman year talent level.

    This season is about practicing hard and getting some his timing/rhythm in spot minutes off the bench. We all envisioned that Creek was a “member” of the 2010 class due to the injury — now it looks as if the real Mo will be coming in with Cody and AE.

    Think of him like a JUCO transfer — we’ll have a core member of our team for 2 seasons instead of 4.

  • Casey B.

    I would be stunned if he’s actually eligible.

  • cooper

    I didn’t see much that makes me believe IU is capable of performing with B10 teams. If a strong effort results in an 18 pt whipping at home we can’t compete.

    This team is still alot closer to the one that almost lost to Ferris State than played well for one half against Kentucky

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