NCAA rules Guy-Marc Michel ineligible

  • 11/30/2010 7:48 pm in

The details, per a release from IU Media Relations:

The NCAA Division I Student-Athlete Reinstatement Committee has denied Indiana University’s appeal on behalf of Guy-Marc Michel. As a result, he is not eligible to participate on the men’s basketball team.

According to the facts agreed to by the university and the NCAA, Guy enrolled in a French university in 2006, which started his five-year clock for Division I participation.

Guy played basketball for a French sports club from 2005 to the 2007-08 season. Although he competed the majority of the time on club teams not considered professional, he practiced and competed in five games with the club’s top-level team in 2007-08. Since the top-level team is considered a professional team per NCAA guidelines, his participation triggered NCAA amateurism violations.

Guy’s participation occurred before the new NCAA rule allowing prospective student-athletes to compete on teams with professionals while maintaining their amateur status.

The NCAA reinstatement committee and staff agreed Guy’s eligibility should not be reinstated because he does not have enough time left in his five-year window to complete the withholding conditions normally associated with this type of amateurism violations.

The reinstatement staff and committee consider a number of factors when deciding each case. These include the nature and seriousness of the violation; the student-athlete’s level of responsibility; any mitigating factors presented by the university; applicable NCAA guidelines; and any relevant case precedent.

During this process, the NCAA Eligibility Center and reinstatement staffs worked with our institution to bring this case to resolution. Even as we faced significant delays while dealing with French authorities, the NCAA staff was responsive and efficient in processing our initial case and the subsequent appeal.

As is permissible by NCAA rules, we will continue to honor Guy’s scholarship as he remains on track to graduate from Indiana University.

Statement from Tom Crean regarding Guy-Marc Michel:

“We are disappointed by this decision because everyone involved in this process agrees that Guy did not intentionally do anything that would have jeopardized his ability to play here or at any of the number of institutions that also recruited him. We will regroup, assess all our options and do whatever we can for Guy, who has demonstrated to us that he deserves to be part of the IU program.”

We’ll have more reaction on this soon.

(Photo credit: James Brosher)

Filed to:

  • Anonymous

    I am very disappointed.

  • Anonymous

    So his mere participation in pro-level events was enough to trigger violations? Does it matter if he was compensated? I feel like all of this is deliberately vague and honestly, between the way the Reggie Bush situation was handled, and then the recent Bruce Pearl situation in relation to how IU was treated because of Kelvin Sampson, I am completely disgusted with the NCAA right now.

  • the college thing is news to me. this sucks, but we must continue on and watford you need to have your back to the basket in the big ten.

  • the college thing is news to me. this sucks, but we must continue on and watford you need to have your back to the basket in the big ten.

  • Anonymous

    major bummer. That being said, if you want to talk about this or any basketball going on tonight I’ll be at Crimson Quarry taking advantage of the SB Nation commenting system.

    http://www.crimsonquarry.com/2010/11/30/1847590/big-ten-acc-challenge

    (Sorry for the spam you guys, but I’m bored. I won’t be offended if this comment is deleted)

  • Marsh21

    wow, this is a big blow to this years team. i understand their ruling but certainly don’t like it. it appears this was all about a timing trigger and not money. we really needed Guy. i know crean wants to honor his scholarship this year but we need a big body down low in the worst way.

    the big 10 season is going to be little rough but hopefully capo, prich and elston can give us more than last year.

    crap…….

  • BaseballBuc

    ugh………………

  • Anonymous

    So can Guy continue to practice with the team this year? I would think that it makes a difference for our other bigs to go against him in practice. Not trying to find loopholes or anything…we’ve got to be compliant first and foremost…just curious.

  • Anonymous

    The NCAA has a vendetta against IU

  • Anonymous

    The NCAA has a vendetta against IU

  • Anonymous

    This is stupid. I don’t understand how the 5-year rule is applicable. Kevin Bush, the IU football player who served in the military, enrolled at Toledo in 2004…I’m sure there are numerous other cases similar.

    Cam Newton is still playing.

    This is just sickening. What a backwards organization.

  • Anonymous

    This is stupid. I don’t understand how the 5-year rule is applicable. Kevin Bush, the IU football player who served in the military, enrolled at Toledo in 2004…I’m sure there are numerous other cases similar.

    Cam Newton is still playing.

    This is just sickening. What a backwards organization.

  • at least god took out miles brand

  • at least god took out miles brand

  • Anonymous

    This is extremely disappointing to everyone. I think it is good to still honor Guy’s scholarship because it just would not be fair to take free college away from someone. Anyways, Pritchard, Capo, and Elston need to really step up and make up for this. We have played pretty well without Guy and our rebounding has been great. Our three big guys need to establish a post presence so we are not a completely outside team.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t like Myles Brand, but that was pretty low

  • Bryan

    – How does enrolling (not playing) at a educational facility in no way affiliated with the NCAA start your eligibility clock for NCAA sports participation?
    – Even so, would that not make this season the final year of the 4-in-5 rule?
    – How many amateur violations did Guy accrue that would have essentially disqualify him from a 30 game NCAA season? Since he played 5 games at the pro level overseas, that seems to indicate that the NCAA is penalizing Guy roughly 6-7 NCAA games per each pro game.
    – I know eligibility cases for international players is a bit in flux, but at this point, it just feels random.

  • Clinton Mills

    It’s a shame but I think it was something the staff was expecting. I don’t look at this as a total loss though, I think the physical presence that Michel brought to practice has really paid dividends for this team.

  • Anonymous

    Well the fans were in the dark about a number of these details: 1) the NCAA declared Guy ineligible at some time this fall; 2) this most recent decision was on the IU appeal of that decision; 3) the facts were not in dispute; 4) Guy fell into a time warp trap where his 5 year period of eligibility started in 2006-07 and would end on 2010-11, this year; 5) under the new NCAA rules Guy would not have been punished for his playing with some pro players; 6) under the old rules he would be punished by having to not play during a “withholding period”; 7) this withholding period will not run out until after the 5 year eligibility period expires. What a let down! IU does have room for one more scholarship player for 2011. What are our options for a talented “Big”?

  • Anonymous

    I am with you on that!

  • Anonymous

    Michael Chandler?

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for breaking this down for us. Some of it follows logically, but not all of it. As mentioned by Bryan above, I’m still not sure how enrolling at a university in another country that is in no way connected to the NCAA can start your eligibility clock. Further, why was the new rule the NCAA promulgated on playing professionally overseas not retroactive? If anything it should have been made as such on a “just in case” basis. I’d really like to get a look at the language of the rule.

  • Anonymous

    The worst loss of the season this sucks. .

  • Anonymous

    Why would you even put something like that? Not many people were fans of him but that is just completely wrong to say.

  • BaseballBuc

    So Josh Selby still eligible, Cam Newton still eligible. I see where the NCAA is coming from but is this justice?

  • Totally inappropriate comment.

  • Anonymous

    Time for Elston, Capo and especially Pritchard to step it up.

  • 11th and Done (Dunn)

    So this was why Mitch McGary was at the last game?
    What do they mean by honer his scholarship until he graduates? When does he graduate and does this free-up a scholarship for 2011?
    I guess he will be good practice for Ralph Sampson III.
    Bawa, wanna come back?

  • Kelin OlaHarrispo

    Just got home and this is not what I wanted to see. One of the most anticipated recruits, will never see the floor. Kid has worked hard and this is what happens…..don’t understand it….Capo, Elston, and Pritch….it is on U

  • Anonymous

    Guy accepted the scholarship way after Bawa transferred. Sorry, but get your facts straight.

  • 11th and Done (Dunn)

    It’s our bad karma for making fun of Enes Kantplay.

  • Bryan

    There are plenty of other similar situations. For example, the NCAA allows Mormon students to suspend their eligibility to leave school for missionary work, return a couple semesters later, and pick right back up.

    Now, one could argue that being called to defend one’s country or serve one’s personal religious beliefs are more significant extenuating circumstances than simply moving around a lot and starting and stopping your education in the interim. You’d get no argument from me there.

    However, the other thought I had is that if the NCAA claims that any college enrollment starts your 5 year clock, does this include taking early college credits while still in high school? You’re technically “registered” at the higher institution offering the credits, since you have to enroll just like any other college student.

  • Anonymous

    Expletive deleted.

  • Anonymous

    Expletive deleted.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, I definitely wasn’t saying that Bush shouldn’t be allowed to play, just that the NCAA has so many inconsistencies yet is unwilling to recognize that and show some discretion when it’s due.

    IU specifically offers high school kids in Indiana different programs (I took an English course) that was definitely an IU program, for dual-credit.

  • ArtistFormerlyKnownAs_Aceman07

    The whole overseas University thing is stupid. So, a kid who’s never picked up a basketball in Africa takes some college courses there. Then, five years later a scout in Africa hands him a basketball and all of the sudden this kid has the opportunity of a lifetime to come to the US so he does and he can’t enroll to play D1 basketball because he didn’t have a prayer of coming to the US five years before that.

    Seems like a pretty stupid rule to me!

  • ArtistFormerlyKnownAs_Aceman07

    Don’t worry about the scholarship. He’ll finish the semester and possibly the year at IU then he’ll be off to play where he can make some money for it overseas.

  • ArtistFormerlyKnownAs_Aceman07

    Amen man! I walked in the door fully expecting a ruling today because it’s 45 days from the first day of practice so they NCAA had to either file an extension or make a ruling and this isn’t the one I was expecting.

    I’m going out on a limb here but I still feel there is NCAA bias towards IU and I think it’s because of RMK. Recently, he bashed the NCAA and their “speedy” decision making and, I’m sorry, but those NCAA shirts still see him in his red sweater and I think it will be a long time before all is forgiven and the program is seen as Tom Crean’s program!

    This is a rant, but I hate the freaking NCAA! This is not a knew thing. If you go back to the denim shirt era I made comments then about Reggie Bush, USC, Coach Cal, etc. suggesting that the NCAA is a “Mickey Mouse” organization. They take forever when it comes to allowing Pete Carroll to quietly exit before they rule on USC, but then they stick it to other coaches who don’t have anything to do with previous violations!

    It’s all very, very confusing!

  • Anonymous

    I really don’t think this ruling has anything to do with our past history with the NCAA or RMK. I think this is a case of the NCAA sticking exactly to the rules as they were written without considering things like Guy being a good student, not ever intentionally breaking the rules or doing anything to jeopardize his eligibility, or even thinking about the fact that they have changed the rule but won’t apply it to previous examples.

    This is heartbreaking for this year’s team, truly disappointing.

  • kentuckyhoosier

    I cant stand the ncaa . Maybe he is ineligible , but they really need to get these things straight before they allow a kid to get to a school . Its so unfreakn fair to the student athelete . I feel for the kid . I hope he can still get a good education for himself .

  • Anonymous

    In this particular case there is not much blame. Coaches would not have a clue about these three rules that impacted the NCAA decision. The compliance staff should know the rules, but the facts had to be sorted out first: was 2006-07 the first year of college, thus starting the 5 year clock, or was it the last year of HS. Then the decision to appeal with the “Hail Mary” that the new rule would allow him to play without a “withholding” period, so let’s cut the kid a break, was worth the effort. In sum, the timing was horrible. No one to blame!

  • Anonymous

    Under the old rule the signing of a professional contract triggers an automatic 1 year “withholding” period, plus a 2games out for each game played as a professional additional “withholding” period. Under the new rule it does not. Guy’s case was under the old rule. Someone starting college now comes under the new rule.

  • Anonymous

    No he was not paid.

  • Anonymous

    No he was not paid.