Scouting Report: 2013 commit Collin Hartman

  • 11/25/2010 6:39 pm in

Joe Eberhardt is a high school sports blogger and regular contributor to Inside the Hall. You can follow him on twitter at @IndyHSHoops and read his blog, IndyHSHoops.com.

Indianapolis Cathedral forward Collin Hartman joined classmate Devin Davis Jr. of Warren Central as the first two members of IU’s 2013 recruiting class when he made an oral commitment on November 21. Here’s an in-depth look at the rising sophomore:

Most Impressive: The first two things that jump out about Hartman are his skill level and versatility. Hartman has great ball handling and shooting for a player his size. At 6’7, he poses a matchup problem for most defenders. He’ll blow by slower players off the bounce or bring smaller defenders into the paint and finish down low. He does a great job of drawing fouls near the basket and is a great shooter from the charity stripe. He has good length (6’11 wingspan) which helps him both as a rebounder and a defender. He’s also a gifted passer that possesses the ability to find teammates on the fly and take advantage of opponents trying to double team him. Hartman plays with poise and confidence every time he steps on the court and you probably won’t believe he’s just a sophomore after watching him play.

Needs Improvement: Hartman isn’t the strongest or most explosive player on the court, but he’s also only 16 years old. As he continues to mature physically and grow, adding strength will help him on the defensive end and on the glass. Offensively, there’s not really a glaring hole in his game, but he could work on improving his shooting consistency. He’s got great form on his jump shot, but can be streaky at times. Again, he’s just beginning his sophomore season and most players his age have room to improve.

Conclusion: Hartman will arrive in Bloomington as a versatile player ready to make a multitude of contributions. In college he’ll likely play the three, but could likely slide up to the four if necessary. Hartman can impact the game in so many ways, that even if he’s not having a great scoring game he’ll find teammates or crash the boards. He’ll need to get a little stronger for the rigors of Big Ten play, but he has plenty of time to work on that area of his game. He has a great work ethic and will continue to improve as a player as he gets more experience.

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  • WMR

    I’ve heard a lot of people compare Hartman to Robbie Hummel (who, if he played for IU, would probably be one of my favorite players… and that takes a lot for me to admit.) Can someone who knows more than I tell me how close they compare.

  • ArtistFormerlyKnownAs_Aceman07

    Sounds like an in between “glue guy” and “star”. That’s not a bad thing to have on the upcoming teams with all the talent and athleticism. IU is going to need those “glue” guys who can help hold it together and do all the little things on nights where things aren’t clicking as they normally do.

    On a side note . . . I miss the days of Kitchell and Laz doing the games on Channel 29/4!!! How the he** can we be in INDIANA and the BTN choose to put Iowa and PUke games on instead of the IU game. We don’t live in Purdue and we certainly don’t live in Iowa! I miss the good old days when every game was televised and the announcers were pro-IU!!!

  • Anonymous

    i remember when joe made a list of the top 10 2013 prospects in the state. this was a few weeks/months ago. i remember collin hartman was #1………..even though we all thought he was a purdue lean. GOOD STUFF

  • Here’s the link to the rankings Azur is referring to:

    http://www.insidethehall.com/2010/08/18/indiana-class-of-2013-rankings/

  • ArtistFormerlyKnownAs_Aceman07

    There was an interesting article in my local paper today about CTC and the recruiting job he’s done at IU. I think the writer must be PUke grad or fan because he mentioned Donnie Hale and some other guy that Painter had coming in next year and how he could return serve to Crean and IU if he could land PUke targets Basil Smotherman and Gary Harris. Only problem with that is that I feel, as probably most IU fans do, that Harris is an IU lean and Smotherman is a friend of Hartman and Davis so it’s likely that if CTC wants Smotherman he could sign him too. It’s highly unlikely that PUke lands Harris so even with one commit from Smotherman it doesn’t mean that PUke and Painter have returned serve when IU and CTC have landed like 9 straight Indiana studs including two so-called PUke leans.

    Screw PUke!!! They’ll soon be back to the “other program” in the state!!!

  • Luke72

    Grear Crean type player. A guard /forward combo that already shows a very high BB IQ. At 16 he is really a diamond in the ruff. He can run the floor. Maybe much like Hummel in that his best position would be a point forward which in Crean’s system seems to be the 3. Hope to catch some of his games this winter.

  • HoosierFromCT

    Joe,
    How often does ESPN, Rivals, Scouts, etc update the rankings?

  • Anonymous

    you guys work too hard… thanks for that.

  • Anonymous

    Although I haven’t read all that much, he sounds as if he is a smart and all around solid player. It seems as if he has plenty of room to grow and mature as a basketball player to reach his full potential with plenty of time to do so. Nice work Coach Crean, can’t wait to see him as well as others in Candy Stripes.

  • Anonymous

    Still just having a hard time disgesting the fact that he has committed and devin on the same day. it just takes time to process these things :)’

  • Bleeding Crimson

    Are you kidding me…the game will not be televised?

  • Anonymous

    Donnie Hale? I hope the NCAA grants him an 5th year for medical redshirt—even if he’s not hurt during his career

  • Anonymous

    There is no way Harris goes to PUke, zero chance, Nada. If he goes anywhere besides IU, I would guess MSU at this point. PUke?? no way

  • Bravo, Bros! keep going like this, more good info again.

  • Q95

    6′ 11′ span…nice.

  • Anonymous

    Check out the BTN on Saturday at 8:30 AM for the televised replay. The BTN is STUPID! The rating for non-IU basketball games is probably 1/2 of the IU games. Let’s protest with an economic boycott, for 30 days no one in Indiana buys Rotel, until the BTN announces it’s new policy of LIVE TV coverage of every IU game! (this is only PARTIALLY A JOKE!)

  • Anonymous

    Check out the BTN on Saturday at 8:30 AM for the televised replay. The BTN is STUPID! The rating for non-IU basketball games is probably 1/2 of the IU games. Let’s protest with an economic boycott, for 30 days no one in Indiana buys Rotel, until the BTN announces it’s new policy of LIVE TV coverage of every IU game! (this is only PARTIALLY A JOKE!)

  • Diesel

    Brian Evans type?

  • Diesel

    Saw a video of all the incoming recruits linked on a previous thread. Was this your work, or a copycat? Regardless, it was nice. It deserves it’s own thread. Alex?

  • BigTenNetwork.com

  • Anonymous

    no, definitely not my mix at all. and i do know what video you are referring to.

  • Wasn’t all that impressed with it. Guess that’s just my reaction after seeing what Azur is capable of.

  • Anonymous

    hahah thanks Alex! It was a nice mix but I hope IU admin doesn’t confuse the two of us. I actually plan on updating the 2012 recruits mix, but I just figured, (given the pace of recruiting), why not wait till we get Gary Harris? 🙂

  • Anonymous

    Agree it was not ” Azur ” type quality.

  • Anonymous

    Azur do you have a site that has your creations ? I know you can go on youtube and watch them but I would rather watch them at a place that belonged to you rather than someplace like youtube.

  • Diesel

    My bad Azur, you have my allegiences. Love overlooks a lot of flaws, no?

    A lot has gone on since the BC days of IU……(Before Cody), perhaps a new mix is in order.

  • Diesel

    Agreed. Azur actually translates as “bad ass”.

    I described it as “nice” and suggested a copycat, but it was kind of cool to see all the recruits on one video.

  • Anonymous

    i hope to have one really soon! (fingers crossed). i realize that mix wasn’t the best thing ever, but I liked the idea and the screen shots and thought the mixer did a nice job, and I’m flattered he’d use my catchphrase, fear your own future.

  • Anonymous

    lol @ BC. i appreciate the allegience idea haha. the mix really wasn’t bad at all, just don’t want people thinking it’s me that did that one, seeing as I’m waiting for the GH commit and we have different styles, and the mixer should take credit for his work.

  • Anonymous

    I thought I would throw this out there, but Nick Williams and Malik Story are having great starts this year. Nick is averaging 14pts 5reb a game at Ole Miss, and Malik is averaging 11pts 4reb and 2ast per game at Nevada. the point of all this is that Tom Crean found these guys that weren’t recruited like some of the studs we have coming to Bloomington and look at them playing well at solid universities. the man can find talent and now that he has brought these studs to IU things are going to be awesome. and even these 3-4 star players like VO, Sheehey, and Etherington will all be fan favorites and solid contributors for 4 years. IN CREAN WE TRUST!!! GO HOOSIERS!!!

  • Anonymous

    haha thanks man.

  • JerryCT

    Not trying to diminish any recruit here but I believe Yogi is the most important recruit of all in the incredible list.

    Why ?

    + On the Floor: The other players cannot play their best unless someone creates/gets them the ball when and where they need it ………… that’s Yogi

    + Recruiting: Recruits know this and will want to play where they know the PG will get them the ball

    + Media Attention: He seems to have tons pf personality to build around ….. easy to chant

    + Brand: All of the players will help build the national Indiana brand but I feel Yogi will naturally become its “face” ….. unless VO beats him to it

    Since I favor defense I am going now with Patterson & Jurkin as my new favorite players to watch

  • Corey Dunigan

    you took the words right outta my mouth!

  • Bleeding Crimson

    Thanks guys…just hadn’t went there yet. Still a joke. I know that they have to split up the time IU should not finish in the last three spots…Iowa over IU esp now with the recruiting.

    I understand the PUke game it’s after IU but Iowa over IU????? Should have made a schedule change. Plus I know that BTN has three other channels to offer, wonder why they don’t…money?

  • Bleeding Crimson

    Thanks, always like the idea due to the fact the only reason I added BTN to my DirecTV bill was for IU. I guess we could email our frustations to them. I’ll do it regardless.

  • Anonymous

    He may very well be but I think only time will tell us for sure who will carry that honor but man isn’t it really fun to discuss and think about ? Hard to label one of them as the most important since each one seems to bring something to the table that they probably do better than any of the others. Your point about other highly rated players being able to look at IU and see a PG that can and will get them the ball is a great point and gives Crean still yet another excellent selling point, I’m looking straight at you Garry Harris. As with Yogi and others CZ signing on made Crean’s job of getting some of these other guys a whole lot easier. That’s not to say that he would not have gotten them or at the very least some of them whether CZ signs or not but it most definitely helped and in a big way, maybe more so with Yogi than any of the others.

    No one can doubt that Yogi brings a lot of intangibles to the table though.

    + A true pass first PG
    + A true PG that has his quickness and handle
    + A true PG that can shoot AND hit from a decent distance from the basket
    + A true PG that will already know all the little things about most of his teammates right off the bat instead of needing the time to learn those things.
    + A true PG that gives us not only some depth at the position where we needed it the most but high quality depth at that..
    + A true PG with all of those attributes and who we didn’t have to go out of state to get !!

    Rare to find all of those positive factors all rolled into one recruit.

  • Kelin OlaHarrispo

    I would be stunned if Harris went to PU. I just see this thing continue to trend in IU’s favor and they have not lost a ‘big name’ or ‘recruiting’ battle to PU yet,nor Butler I might add. Collin was off my radar because I thought he was Purdue’s to lose…..

  • Anonymous

    Quite honestly, have we lost a recruit to ANYONE since Moses signed with Georgetown?

  • Kelin OlaHarrispo

    Jerry I agree ….Yogi is as important if not more important than Cody from at ‘helps’ the team stand point. Without Yogi IU has a ton of talent but still in need of a floor leader on the court. I will also say….if harris commits he is the most talented recruit IU will have landed, since Eric Gordon….he is that good.

  • JerryCT

    good points all of them. Yes I did not mean to single any one player out.

  • ArtistFormerlyKnownAs_Aceman07

    BJ Young but I think IU questioned his eligibility and hadn’t really offered yet.

    That’s it!

  • Diesel

    Do guys like Matt Costello count?

  • Or Kenny Kaminski?

  • ArtistFormerlyKnownAs_Aceman07

    I think they did a couple months ago but now wouldn’t they have been down on the list compared to who’s committed?

    BTW Alex, I watched the game on the BTN and I personally thought this was by far Indiana’s best effort of the season. What did the brain trust at the game think?

  • Anonymous

    I knew if there were answers they’d pop up. Forgot about Young and Kaminski.

  • Anonymous

    Too cheap to pay to watch inferior video online (and I shouldn’t have to anyway, dammit,) but a few things stand out from the boxscore:
    + Love the 56.3% to 35.1% disparity in shooting percentages, as well as the massive rebounding advantage

    + VO’s stat line is ridiculous for 15 minutes of PT!

    + Glad to see 7 assists and 24 points from Verdell, and the 10-11 from the free throw line is a beautiful sight given his struggles from there thus far

    – 5 TOs is still too many for Verdell

    – How did Rivers foul out in 11 minutes?

    – Is the 24 from Baker a sign of an ongoing problem stopping quick guards? (Didn’t see him, so I could be totally wrong here)

    – Was TP in the doghouse (only 13 minutes) or was Elston just solid?

  • Was not there tonight, but I did watch the stream.

    Looked a bit shaky earlier, but once they got rolling, it was the best performance of the season, IMO. Balanced offensive attack coupled with solid D. Will be interested to see how they play on Wednesday. Think we’ll learn a lot in that game.

  • Everyone take note, Joe Fagan needs to be highly recruited for 2013 along with Colin Hartman. He is an unselfish, highly skilled sophomore at Bishop Chatard in Indy. He was the MVP over Colin in Vegas for the Indiana Elite tourney he was in there (yes he is Indiana Elite). He is getting calls right now from Matt Painter, who just might get him – but guess what – Joe Fagan is a huge IU fan. He will be a good NCAA player somewhere, he isn’t fully developed yet, but this dude is legit – mark my words.