Alright, so he can shoot 3′s……. that much we know.

I go with the (+) as an veteran teacher move…make it easy for the kiddies to read…no one wants to read a massive glob of paragraphic thoughts….

Wow can’t believe no one saw what I saw yet….Sherron is a VJ3 clone! Long, wiry, same height, solid shooters.+ I like how Crean never stops recruiting+ I don’t think he is insurance, as you don’t take the ‘staff’ to see one kid unless you really like him and want him.+ I think Jordy and Yogi, are two rare occasions we will see Crean pursue pure point guards, otherwise get use to seeing alot of 6’3-6’5 guards…hence Blackmon, Buss Patterson, and the pursuit of Dorsey, DSR, etc. Yogi and Jordy are special players to me, but I think Crean likes guards similar to this size and ability.

Good song choice by the way….

I’m a[n] historian, so I can blab on and on and on and on. And on.

They’re still recruiting Harris heavily. They would likely have to over-sign if he commits, though.

yeah I little quicker, not by much, but VJ is up to 190 now so he will lose some quickness with the amount of beef he put on….VJ if you have a problem gaining weight, do three things, get married, your first two years of marriage enjoy it, in year 3 have a kid, then go look in the mirror! An ez 15 pounds

It’s a bit strange too because at Marquette CTC had a number of 6 foot 6’1″ type guys in the mold of Dominick James to go with the shooting guards but he never seemed to lack that small, quick point guard who could score. Here’s what I think (YKZ style):

+ Yes I love the fact that CTC never stops recruiting. His work ethic is amazing.
+ I think he’ll always try to have that point guard like Yogi, Hulls, or James to get the ball up the court.
+ I think we’ll see CTC recruit bigger, stronger players to IU than he did at Marquette because he can. I don’t think he was going to land guys like Zeller and Jurkin there, but that just may be my uneducated opinion.
+ I think we’ll never see him stop trying to load up on wings and small forwards. It’s possible for this team in 2012 to have a number of them on the roster (Mo, AE, Sheehey, VO, Harris, Hollowell, maybe one from 2011 still, this SD-W kid, etc.) And Hanner Perea if he chooses IU is only 6’7″ so he’s not much bigger than a SF even though he’ll likely play the 4.

So I’m confused. We’ve already got commits from Jurkin and Patterson. We’re heavily involved with Hanner Perea, Yogi, Gary Harris, DS-R, Jeremy Hollowell and Marrero and have very good shots at landing at least 2 of these 6 kids. A lot depends on Zeller and the momentum he might give us.

– So why get in with this kid so late?
– Are we definitely going with a 5 man class?
– Are we giving up on DS-R and/or Marrero?
– Does Crean just want a spot-up shooter to go with bangers, slashers and Yogi?
– Is this just to keep other kids aware that they’re not the only game in town?

-Because this kid doesn’t have a lot of major schools that have offered him, therefore IU sits pretty well.
-Everything that I’ve heard points towards Crean wanting to take in as much talent as possible for 2012, whether that be 5 or more.
-No, why do you think that?
-You can’t really tell from one 2 minute clip of a kid if he’s only a spot-up shooter (even though this highlight reel really doesn’t showcase anything else).
-Can’t hurt to have other top notch talent in case plans fall through (K. Irving?)

I remember Knight describing an IU player the way I see Sherron in this video: while everyone else is playing basketball, he just hangs around the 3-point line like a bass in the weeds.

And I think he meant it in a good way.

Hollowell mentioned in recent interviews Crean talking about how IU’s 2012 class could be #1 in the nation.

Does anyone know if there is footage of this? I really would like to watch it.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=5590602

VJ3 isn’t a “solid shooter.” He shot 39% from the field and 27% from 3PT range. Those are poor numbers. (Also, as I looked at the stats, I realized that although Devan Dumes played 400 or so fewer minutes, he put up 40 more three pointers than VJ3. Which tells me first of all, that Dumes was a black hole, and second that Jones was playing to his strengths, which to me are getting into the lane, getting to the line, and hitting free throws. (He shot 190 free throws, easily the most on the team, and shot 75% from the line, which is a low number for my tastes, and another example of his lack of shooting, but he still made the most on the team as well, 144 to Watford’s 116, although Jones shot 45 more than Watford.)VJ3 isn’t a good shooter, by any means, and I think that’s been kind of a misconception of IU fans.

On the contrary, I think the real misconception is that his numbers are an accurate reflection of his shooting ability.

Look at the context of those admittedly low shooting percentages:

After Creek’s season-ending injury, the offensive load was placed on our team’s “veteran” players — the term being laughable in this case because of the fact that our veterans were sophomores. Pritchard and Jones were the only two members of the team who had proven they could score with some sort of consistency the season before. However, Pritchard seemingly regressed last season, and thus wasn’t taken seriously as an offensive threat by opposing teams. Add in Roth’s injury, which officially killed IU’s prospects at being a team who could stretch the floor with quality perimeter shooters, Rivers propensity for driving to the rim without plan or purpose, and Dumes’ desire to play selfish, unintelligent basketball, and who’s left to score for us?

Verdell Jones.

Yes, he missed a lot of shots — but how many of those were forced? How many were taken because there simply weren’t other options? How many were taken with two seconds left on the shot clock because our offense failed to generate opportunities? Most likely a lot.

Picture Jones being allowed to flourish in a system stocked with quality perimeter shooters (Creek, Roth, Hulls), stronger wings and low post presences (Watford, Elston, Pritchard, Michel, Capobianco) and some playmaking athletes (Oladipo, Sheehy), and suddenly you have SPACE on the floor — a luxury Jones didn’t have last season.

I’m not saying Jones is Reggie Miller, but judging his shooting ability based solely on his numbers, without regard for the circumstances, is the same as judging Crean’s coaching ability based on his win-loss record at IU thus far, in my book.

I agree. That helps explain why IU is not yet a winning team. Its best players are still not very good. And, yes, I am an IU fan.

I heard this young man’s father was Luke S. Walker and his grandfather was A.S. Walker. Perhaps the force is with us…………….bazinga.

VJ3 is a number two option that was forced to be a number one option. Would love to see him become a number three option this year behind Creek and Watford. As the rest of the team gets better VJ3 will get better because defenses will pay less attention to him. He is a better shooter than his numbers suggest.

Yes.

The only assumption that I would make is that Coach Crean WILL NOT be left out in the cold! IU has made it clear that we want Yogi and Hanner at the top of the list for 2012. We have Ron and Peter already. We will take a class of 5 at least. We want Hollowell, Harris and DSR. But there are more very good recruits like Marrero and Dorsey-Walker who can play and are interested in IU. So some of these players will miss the bus-in honor of Ron Patterson who will be great!- to Bloomington and Indiana’s next National Championship if they do not commit SOON! Yogi and Hanner, do you love Indiana and it’s basketball history and tradition or not? Get on board now!

I think that the quote is that you need “5 guys on the floor that can score the ball”. So you have “shooters” like Creek, Hulls and Roth, and you have “scorers” like Jones, Creek, Watford, Elston, Vic and Will. Actually, Watford, Elston, Jones and Sheehey (and maybe Vic) all could emerge as “shooters” as well. Then you have the “Bigs who score down low” like Guy, Capo (is Capo really a “shooter” as well?), Watford, Elston and Pritchard who also have to be scorers. Then you have “athletes” like Rivers, Creek, Watford, Elston, Vic and Will who also have to find a way to score effeciently. As you can see the best players like Creek fill multiple roles. If Watford and Elston can really play to their potential, they will fill every scoring role-offensively. However, you still need assists and running the offense for movement, screens etc. plus offensive rebounding. Then you have the whole defensive side-rebounding, steals, blocks, team defense, taking charges, etc. IU is getting there. You can see that Etherington immediately adds a shooter, scorer, athlete to the mix and Cody adds every role! The AAU circuit makes it easy to focus on the offensive skills, but hides the defensive and team skills.

Then why not Aaron Thomas?

kinda surprised we offered this kid….aau team played his team twice….won by 15 and 40 in both games….he can definitly shoot the ball, but once that was found out he was basically shut down…..i think he would get minutes at schools he already has offers from, but not much for IU besides a 7-8 man that can stretch a zone…..could be a late sleeper though….would take him if only he commits late after others have made their choice

I think that you are right. That is why you have a quality Strength and Conditioning Coach!

Quick release, nice stroke, 6’4″ and growing – probably will get bigger and stronger – and he must have an inside game if CTC offered…..nice to have more options on the board. Time for Harris and Yogi and Perea to step up and sign up… JH and you have a top class – hope CTC is right about that…add CZ (glue guy IMHO) then you have Mich state depth and you can press all game and run the other teams into the ground..

How are they not similar players?