My only problem with your scenario is one of those guys (esp. Perea or Hollowell) could leave early and go pro, thus severely hurting our chances of a championship. CZ is a four year guy.

I love that thought … we are going to be insanely athletic if we get Perea, BJY, Hollowell, etc.

With the jumping ability of Oladipo, Sheehey, Patterson, and [possibly] Perea, to go along with the sheer height of Jurkin, I don’t see any reason why we wouldn’t get 2-3 oops per game; in fact, no game should go by without an oop.

I agree with the need to balance the classes. Even if we sign Zeller and Etherington, I would still like to see 1 more player added. Maybe an energy/competitor type player like Kaminski would have been. Of course that depends on how the 2012 group rounds out.

you make a VERY valid point about early entry. but i don’t necessarily buy the CZ being a 4 year guy. anyone who plays well enough is leaving early….

Anthony I am going to have to agree with you on this one…I would not be upset with Etherington and Young, followed by Perea, Buss, Yogi, Jurkin, and Harris or Hollowell. I really really like BJ Young with this team and what he could bring. Having said that Cody, young, and Zeller…followed by Buss, Yogi, Jurkin, and (Harris, Hollowell, or Perea) would be another tradeoff……

I guess I want it all

I’ve only seen several highlights and films of games but he looks good. He’s got a real nice high shot and seems to play very instinctively. I mean that he shoots gaps, makes hard cuts to the basket, and grabs rebounds because he seems to see the floor well and read the game well. He’s also pretty athletic. I wouldn’t put him on a Patterson or Perea level because he’s not a great leaper but a good one and gets up pretty quick.

“No Rod, no Rod, don’t shoot it from there Rod…..yes Rod!” Hopefully that’s not what I remember about Buss after 4 years as a Hoosier.

Yeah Rod got hot from time to time and played hard, but rarely played smart and it was until his senior year that he was much of a contributer. I’m going to go with Chitown on this one.

I’m with you, I loved Wilmont. No, he wasn’t the greatest player ever, but he played hard, he had fun, and he was a hellacious athlete.

I was about to type this myself when I saw your post.

I’m seeing Sheehey, Oladipo, Patterson, Jurkin, and maybe Perea along with the other guys and envisioning a potential 40 Minutes of Hell 2.0 (minus the Cowboy boots and gun-toting sons.)

Yep. It’s ok to have cross-racial comparisons too. I’m hoping AE resembles Jay Edwards.

So glad we are no longer talking about Greg Echenique, Cody Larson, and Moses Abraham. Bring on more Indiana kids for ’11 (BJ being the exception) and ’12.

Getting BJY would definitely “ease” the pain; and, you know what I am talking about. Young is that good.

If we get the players we are all thinking that we are and he doesn’t press full court and do some half court trapping and so forth, at least part of the time, then this IU fan thinks he is missing an killer chance to instill some real fear in future oppenents plus it gives the opposing team in the next game on the schedule just one more thing to have to prepare for. That was always one of the problems that I had with BK, too predictable and when it got late in the game and we needed the ball and we tried to press they just could not normally excel at it since they never praciticed it or done it in an actual game other than at the end when we needed it to work more than at any other part of the game.

See nail head, see hammer hit nail on head. Shape it, frame it, discuss it, scream it any way you want cause when it’s all said and done getting back to the top and STAYING there boil down to one thing and that is like you said the W’s and the L’s. Now don’t get me wrong it does matter how you get to the W’s but thankfully I don’t think we have to worry about that any more.

We have to face the facts about some of these kids that have given their hearts and souls the past couple of years to IU. They got the opportunity to play for IU only because IU was down and out. They would most likely be at Ball State or Miami of OH or somewhere other than IU. I hate to have to get rid of any of them either but Mr. Crean is making millions to put a winner on the court as soon as he possibly can so he must do whatever is necessary within the rules ofcourse.

And to get someone like Patterson from Indianapolis which has just been a dead spot for IU over the years. That place is a haven for hoopers and we have to continue to grab these kids from that area.

RP is a completely different player than Creek or Jones. It’s just a dumb comparison. Sometimes I just don’t know about that guy.

I hope you guys are even half right. If he’s anything resembling Gordon we are in for a treat. His ranking doesn’t really suggest it but rankings are so subjective.

Although I think Gordon was right up there with OJ Mayo as the number one and two for that class.

I hate to say this believe me I really do but does Young really fit with what Tom Crean is trying to do image wise? Poor grades? Possibly a one and done or two and done? He looked great on the video I saw on the court but the whole grade situation and listening to his interview made me think this guy might not be a good fit for the type of program Crean is trying to build.

I hope I’m wrong and he hits the books and it isn’t a question but look at Calipari and all the kids he recruits who always have problems with grades.

It isn’t like the grades are easier to come by once you get to college either. If he’s having problems in HS what happens in college?

Sometimes I think he is bitter from the way things ended and he takes it out by giving IU as little credit as possible.

He is right now. Hopefully he can sustain it and stay in the rankings for 2 years. We saw what happened when JD fell all the way down and AE fell out the rankings.

Thanks Ace.

I agree that Zeller is the guy for the class of 2011. But I was stating the case for Patterson to be a Quinn Buckner type of leader at IU for 3-4 years starting in 2012-13. He has the leadership skills to bring other great players together into a championship team. He will score when we need it, but he will do everything each and every game.

From the reports that I read, J Davis just did not perform very well this summer. From those same reports Austin Etherington was great this summer, one of the very best wing shooters around and with an improved overall game. He is a solid #80-100 no matter what the rankers say. Just as Will and Vic’s play last year during the HS season last year did not justify dropping them from the 130′s to the 140′s. I smell a skunk slighting Coach Crean and IU. Ron Patterson is a top 50 player and he is a Hoosier now! Who cares what the ranking services say from here on in?