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July evaluation period: 2011 class

by in Recruiting | July 13th, 2010

Inside the Hall hit the recruiting trail for the start of the July evaluation period and made stops at the adidas Invitational in Indianapolis and the Kentucky Hoopfest in Louisville. Here are our notes on prospects in the 2011 class with IU recruiting ties:

+ Cody Zeller, Washington (IN), Indiana Elite: If this wasn’t best Zeller has played to-date in an AAU event, it would have to be a close second. In the first high-profile game of the adidas Invitational against Dream Vision, Zeller came out firing on all cylinders. He knocked down shots from the perimeter. He found open teammates for easy buckets. He dunked. He finished with contact in the lane. He showed excellent footwork and agility for his size. If there was any doubt that Zeller is a five-star talent, it was erased. One interesting observation from Zeller’s interview that hasn’t been publicized much was his answer to the question of what’s changed since his brothers went through the recruiting process. He made a point to mention that certain schools have built new facilities in recent years, which is a good indication that Cook Hall is at least on his mind.

+ Austin Etherington, Hamilton Heights (IN), Indiana Elite: Etherington struggled in his first game at the adidas Invitational, but picked up the pace in his second game Tuesday and first game on Wednesday. Although he’s declared himself 100 percent publicly, he’s still wearing a brace on his back when he plays and said on Wednesday that he’ll likely continue wearing the brace for the foreseeable future. He struggled with his outside shot, but found other ways to stand out as a valuable contributor. In a game against the Dallas Mustangs and five-star power forward Le’Bryan Nash, Etherington stood his ground and played gritty defense against one of the nation’s best players. His ball handling still needs work, but he’s an underrated passer and probably doesn’t get enough credit for how well he defends.

+ Jeremiah Davis, Muncie Central (IN), Indiana Elite: Davis has taken a tumble in the national rankings and his play in Indianapolis probably won’t help the cause. One observation that stood out: Many of the strengths Davis previously used to separate himself from opponents no longer appear to exist. Defenders don’t allow him to bully his way to the basket by using his strength. His first step is adequate, but it’s not a sure thing he’ll get past his defender. He’s still a very good prospect that excels in transition, is a solid passer and a great kid. Michigan State, once considered the school to beat, was noticeably absent from both of his games on Tuesday.

+ Naadir Tharpe, Brewster Academy (NH), NE Playaz: Playing alongside Kaleb Tarczewski and Alex Murphy, Tharpe gets the chance to embrace the role of a pure point guard. He took a couple of ill-advised shots from the perimeter, but he’s quick with the ball and reeled off several nice passes. He also seemed to excel using the pick and roll. It’s sometimes tough to gauge defense in the up-and-down nature of an AAU event, but Tharpe showed nothing to suggest that he would be unable to keep up in the Big Ten in terms of quickness. His size (5-10), however, makes him relatively easy to shoot over. Indiana continues to evaluate Tharpe and will decide, presumably by the end of the summer, whether to extend a scholarship offer.

+ Chane Behanan, Bowling Green (KY), Ohio Basketball Club: Behanan didn’t play particularly well on Tuesday, but it’s easy to see why he’s a hot commodity. His listed height is 6-6 or 6-7, but he’s actually closer to 6-5 which makes him a bit undersized for a power forward. His post game is very polished, his body (at least 250 pounds and mostly lean) is college ready and he showed an ability to finish with either hand. He seemed to get a bit frustrated in his first game on Tuesday as his teammates either forgot about him or just refused to feed him the ball. After his meeting with the media, it was obvious that Louisville and West Virginia are in the best shape and he sounded as if he’d be thrilled with an offer from Kentucky. He did, however, say he hopes to visit Bloomington.

  • Bucky

    Can anyone give more information on AE’s back injury?

    Is it disk related? Something else?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/SPGOT33W43BNOXGO6SFWIU2FWU Jason

    ESPN.com Insider is reporting North Carolina has officially offered Zeller. They even quote him as saying “I don't feel like they're behind at all. I said from Day One, I would wait until later to decide. I was pretty happy to get the offer.” Guys….Zeller ain't coming to IU. He's going to North Carolina.

  • Kelin Blab

    + For once when one of the big dogs coming into play I don't feel like…we lost another one. I think Cody Zeller is coming to IU. UNC has no clear advantage over IU at this point. Considering what Tyler went through with IU and Cody's recruitment going the polar opposite I think we are in good shape. Dakich said last week, Tyler had a horrible visit and he felt bad that he did.

    Cody has proven to me why he is getting so much attention and it is well deserved.

    + I hope soon Austin gets past all of these injuries so we can see what he would do at 100%. I think he is going to be a steal for IU.

    + Jeremiah Jeremiah Jeremiah…..what has happened. I think Alex hit the nail on the head, your peers have caught up with you. The concern is, has he gotten better and is there more upside? Would love him at IU for 4 years, but to be honest now, if he chose anywhere else it would not bother me very much. For his position at 2Guard, PG, or Combo…I can name quite a few players in 2011-12 that I would want more…or Moore!

    +Speaking of…Alex I am trying to get over my Nic Moore crush, but this will IU offer Tharpe deal doesn't help. If IU offers him and not Nic Moore I will be pissed. Tharpe is a very good player and would work well at IU…but you can't tell me he is that much better if at all than Nic Moore.

    + Chane Behanan, IMO…is not interested in Indiana. I know it is early but I don't get that he even knows IU has a team.

  • HoosierDavey

    I hope you are right about Zeller, but ESPN has their own take on him- http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/features/rumors#…. I wish the kid would see that he could be a legend at IU, while he will just be another Zeller at NC.

  • BaseballBuc

    I still believe IU is in good not great shape. Cody just seems like a low key humble kid. I'm not sure deep down if he wants to be at UNC because of the pressure and always being in the spotlight. I know he was thrilled to get the offer but he doesn't strike me as someone who is going to lead a team. He will probably end up being a great #2 option for a team (unless he goes to Butler). This is a very important recruit for CTC, and he knows it. Even though UNC did far far greater than IU last year, keep in mind that they had 8 Mcdonalds all – Americans on their team. EIGHT! I mean how many does it take to win? Give IU or PU 8 all Americans and they probably win it all. They lost Ed davis to the draft, their best player. Deon Thompson to graduation. Marcus Ginyard to graduation, best defender and captain. The Wear brothers transferred. The addition of Harrison Barnes will help but UNC may not sniff the NCAA tournament this year. We very well may be looking at this page down the road and only one guy came to IU, and thats Austin Etherington. But who knows, I very well may be wrong.

  • hoosierfan2

    If Zeller is concerned about playing time as a freshman he should come to IU. At UNC he'll be behind his brother, Henson (if he doesn't go pro, since he has what the NBA covets above all else, upside), and McAdoo. He'll be the second big man off the BENCH for the Tar Heels, at the very best.

    If he came to IU he would almost assuredly start from day one. A starting front court of Watford at the 3, and Elston/Zeller at the 4/5 would be a devastating lineup. All three of them can stretch the floor, but Zeller and Elston could also bang down low. Add in a senior Verdell and a junior Mo Creek and that is a top 25 starting five.

  • eph521

    The ESPN article has been out there for a few days and I think most knew the offer was coming, just surprised it took so long. I would suggest that Cody's comments about UNC not being “behind at all” are accurate, but not an indication he's going to UNC. Cody has said all along that he's going to wait and decide, so a late offer from UNC doesn't put them behind the 8-ball in any way. None of us know where he's going for sure, but I think you're reading too much into his comments to say he's a lock for UNC. There's other comments that suggest he's coming to IU.

  • Kelin Blab

    Great point, I am all but sure he will start at IU. Him starting at the PF with those upperclassmen would be a solid NCAA tourney lineup.

  • IUfanPurduePhD

    I would be very surprised if AE was 2011's only IU recruit. As loaded as the 2012 class is, I don't think Crean wants another six-recruit class (see: 2009). I would've said if we didn't get Zeller, we'd get McGary, but now that McG has reclassified for 2012, that's not going to happen. I think Crean would take AT & AE — minimum. And we're in good shape with BJ Young too. With all the pressure on Crean right now, I don't think there's any way he takes a one-person class.

  • IUfanPurduePhD

    Don't despair yet, man. Check out Zeller's comments from a few weeks back when he said that playing with Tyler at UNC wasn't that big of a draw because he did it in high school and it would only be for one year. CZ is becoming good friends with Etherington (and possibly other IU commits, like Yogi or JDavis), so don't underestimate the power of playing with your buddies–which would obviously be for more than just one year. And don't underestimate the proximity of family/home.

    And don't forget that UNC is bringing in McAdoo next year, who is also a power forward (and even more highly touted than CZ) … he'd get more PT at IU because we don't really have somebody at the 4/5 like him (he's taller than everybody except Guy).

    Is UNC in his top three? Undoubtedly. Is IU? Definitely. We'll just have to wait and see, but I think we've got a decent shot.

  • Outoftheloop

    I agree with your points. I hope Cody does as well.

  • Outoftheloop

    I agree.

  • http://www.insidethehall.com/ Alex Bozich

    I think the ESPN “article” was taken from comments made in the Indy Star shortly after the offer was received.

  • eph521

    exactly…

  • GFDave

    I remember back to when Tyler was being recruited and how intense it was from an IU point of view. But that's nothing compared to this Cody watch. This thing is really boiling now and we've got maybe 3 or 4 months to go before Cody decides and creates jubilation or abject depression among the faithful.

  • eph521

    Agree with you… and I still think playing at Assembly Hall several times this summer like he has, that has to be mean something to the kid.

    Too bad about McAdoo – I would loved to have rooted for a kid named McAdoo… or yelled at the TV “what the heck McAdoo!”?

  • Kelin Blab

    I cannot imagine the depression if he chooses elsewhere, the only saving grace a solid season by IU, a BJ Young committ, or both….however I am not worried.

  • http://www.insidethehall.com/ Alex Bozich

    I wonder if it will surpass the apprehension for the Moses decision.

  • MillaRed

    A very, very, very uneventful off-season thus far.

    Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

  • stonaroni

    Not disk related, just a stress fracture, very common injury that heals quickly

  • Kelin Blab

    That was bigger than the lebron “Decision”.

  • Kelin Blab

    I think there will be tears if Cody picks IU and if Cody does not pick IU.

  • GFDave

    For some relief from the Cody Watch, I went searching for BJ Young info. Below are links to a couple vids. The kid sure does smile a lot.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTRDwZ04fYs
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q338xuDMlQM

  • GFDave

    What? What? Did somebody say something? vbg

  • http://www.prinsportsblog.com BGleas

    I think the hype surrounding the commitment won't reach Moses, as far as people sitting up all night waiting for word, but the despair afterwards will be worse. It kind of seemed like people moved on from Moses fairly quickly, even considering the hype around the commitment.

  • GFDave

    Tornado Moses was a fast moving storm of significant ferocity, but limited duration. Hurricane Cody is a slower moving storm, cutting a much broader swath for a longer period of time.

  • BaseballBuc

    I agree with you, but I was talking in reference to the list above. Out of those 5 guys we may only be left with AE. We should be able to land Thomas and hopefully Young.

  • BaseballBuc

    How come the football team gets to have all the fun? They had like 10 commits in a span of like 2 days.

  • IUfanPurduePhD

    Ah, ok, gotcha… and I agree with your assessment. Crean may bring in Tharpe any way, but if we don't get Zeller, getting Tharpe would give us a great shot at Kaleb Tarczewski (who impressed the guys over at the Scoop during Adidas in Indy last week).

  • Bryan

    Not to mention the poor condition of the IU basketball levees, given years of neglect by people who were responsible for maintaining them. Could sink a large part of the fan base if things turn sour…

  • marcusgresham

    Which is more embarrassing? 1.) Not winning with eight All-Americans or, 2.) Not winning with five first-round draft picks?

  • marcusgresham

    Or, if there are defections, this could open the door for Zeller AND McGary. Nice low post combo there.

  • BaseballBuc

    Are the draft picks all in their rookie seasons? Or is this 5 years down the road?

  • BaseballBuc

    I think the countdown to “NO MORE TIJAN” was on at that point and people were already sad and planning their last words to him before they had to say goodbye.

  • HoosierFutbal

    What's the deal with Chasson Randle? He's a highly-rated point guard who apparently is highly interested in IU, but we don't hear much about him.

    Any reason that IU doesn't seem to be focusing on him as much?

  • RC

    If he comes to IU he plays day one. If he goes to NC he sits. I don't think he will go to NC.

  • RC

    If he comes to IU he plays day one. If he goes to NC he sits. I don't think he will go to NC.

  • OldTimer

    The one thing IU really has going for it is that as of right now, Cody Zeller would be starting by his soph. year. I could easily see him getting double digit minutes his freshmen year, if not starting if Pritchard doesn't get his act together, and Guy doesn't pan out. UNC? Wouldn't look for him to start until junior year at earliest, and be buried on the bench his freshmen year.
    I think IU has a 50/50 shot are better at this kid!

  • Lancepringle20

    Because he has been recruited by Purdue for 3 years and lists them as his favorite!!! Do some research…

  • Lancepringle20

    Because he has been recruited by Purdue for 3 years and lists them as his favorite!!! Do some research…

  • jgongora86

    The fan asked a simple question on a IU basketball blog. This is the research.

  • Outoftheloop

    I think that Coach Cal was quoted on NBA Draft night saying that having 5 first round draft picks “was better than winning an NCAA Championship”. My question was “how do you know?”. Since he has NEVER won the NCAA and in fact HAS NEVER even competed officially in the Final Four!

  • Outoftheloop

    I think that you are right about that.

  • Wheatgerm

    To return to an earlier point, there was no correlation this year between 1st round draft picks and success in the NCAA tournament. Texas had 3 and didn’t win a game. How many 1st round picks made the Final Four? Only one. And he didn’t play for the champions.

    It really shouldn’t be surprising. Look what the NBA draft has become. A high-stakes gamble on the potential of 19-year-olds, kids one year out of high school. Kids who haven’t stayed with a program long enough to meld into a unit that plays extremely well together under a variety of conditions. So don’t inflate the significance of going in the 1st round. Daniel Orton is a great example. 3 pts, 3 rebs a game. Someone took a bet on him in the 1st round, but that doesn’t mean he was a significant factor in college.

    You guys are chastising UK for not winning with so much young talent. But there are plenty more who argue UK will never succeed with so much young talent. Time will tell. If it’s a embarrassment to go 35-3, win both the regular season and tournament conference championships, make it to the Elite Eight with a bunch of freshmen, spend the entire season ranked top 5 in the country under a coach in his very first year, put kids in the NBA and garner even more impressive recruiting classes because of it, then I’m guessing most schools, IU included, would kill for that kind of embarrassment.

  • Hardwood83

    I would like to believe that- but history has shown otherwise. Whether it's 7-8 blue-chip tailbacks at USC (granted they were likely getting paid nicely) or UNC basketball stockpiling talent at every position. Immediate playing time is A factor in general, and maybe THE factor with any given kid, but overall it's not a given.

  • Kelin Blab

    McGary is 2012 now…

  • http://www.insidethehall.com/ Alex Bozich

    Will have to update this when the recruiting boards are updated. In fact, I have to wonder if he'll even be included on the 2012 board.

  • slikyslim222

    Cody Zeller can be a on a long list of talented guys who went thru N.Carol. or DU, that few remember unless they do well in the pros. But to be part of the Indiana Renaissance of IU basketball THAT would be not only a great ride, but legendary in bball history!!!

  • slikyslim222

    Totally agree, a great opportunity for CZ with a great bunch of guys who are ready to break out in Assembly Hall!

  • slikyslim222

    Hard to imagine not winning with FIVE first round picks, ( and throw away your honor & integrity in the process.) True KY fans are blushing.

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