The latest on Moses Abraham

  • 03/24/2010 12:31 pm in

We considered a TMZ-style coverage approach to the Moses Abraham official visit, with live updates from outside the shrubbery of Assembly Hall, Cook Hall, Dunn Meadow and Yogi’s.

(Not really, but based on the interest in the Abraham recruitment, it certainly would have boosted page views.)

Here’s what we know: Abraham is on day two of his official visit to Bloomington. Joe Boncore, Abraham’s guardian, told Evan Daniels of Scout.com that Abraham is down to IU and Georgetown and that a decision could come soon:

“It’s definitely down to Georgetown and Indiana. He should be making his mind up when he gets back. Hopefully not the second he gets off the plane, but we do need to get this over with. I think he’ll decide this weekend. I know we keep saying that, but we just wanted to give Indiana the chance at least show him the University and stuff like that.”

Beyond that, Terry Hutchens of The Indianapolis Star wrote in a blog post this morning that the visit is going well. (Our sources also tell us the visit is going well.)

By all accounts that I have heard, Abraham had a good first day. He spent a lot of time touring the campus, Assembly Hall and the new practice facility. Along with coach Tom Crean, assistant Tim Buckley and Maurice Creek, he walked along the West sideline of Memorial Stadium in the afternoon during Indiana’s first Spring Football practice. Later, he had dinner with Crean and in the evening was entertained by Creek and a few other IU basketball players.

So that, for those of you clamoring for an update, is the latest on the Moses Abraham visit. Nothing ground breaking to report, but it sounds like a decision could come soon. But then again, we’ve heard that before.

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  • USMCsoldier

    From all accounts we are getting here in the DC area. He's healed and ready to go.

  • USMCsoldier

    From all accounts we are getting here in the DC area. He's healed and ready to go.

  • USMCsoldier

    From all accounts we are getting here in the DC area. He's healed and ready to go.

  • USMCsoldier

    From all accounts we are getting here in the DC area. He's healed and ready to go.

  • USMCsoldier

    Agreed. It never occurred to me that Moses was coming to IU. First, it was a battle between GU and Maryland. then GU and IU. The constant was GU. Boncore was just throwing Crean a bone and maybe one day it will pan out for another (smaller) recruit.

  • USMCsoldier

    Agreed. It never occurred to me that Moses was coming to IU. First, it was a battle between GU and Maryland. then GU and IU. The constant was GU. Boncore was just throwing Crean a bone and maybe one day it will pan out for another (smaller) recruit.

  • USMCsoldier

    Agreed. It never occurred to me that Moses was coming to IU. First, it was a battle between GU and Maryland. then GU and IU. The constant was GU. Boncore was just throwing Crean a bone and maybe one day it will pan out for another (smaller) recruit.

  • USMCsoldier

    Agreed. It never occurred to me that Moses was coming to IU. First, it was a battle between GU and Maryland. then GU and IU. The constant was GU. Boncore was just throwing Crean a bone and maybe one day it will pan out for another (smaller) recruit.

  • USMCsoldier

    Agreed. It never occurred to me that Moses was coming to IU. First, it was a battle between GU and Maryland. then GU and IU. The constant was GU. Boncore was just throwing Crean a bone and maybe one day it will pan out for another (smaller) recruit.

  • USMCsoldier

    Agreed. It never occurred to me that Moses was coming to IU. First, it was a battle between GU and Maryland. then GU and IU. The constant was GU. Boncore was just throwing Crean a bone and maybe one day it will pan out for another (smaller) recruit.

  • USMCsoldier

    You're rationalizing a decision and never looked at GU's extensive history of producing NBA caliber pivots who come back to GU to teach new, young centers. Your post also tells me you are NOT familiar at all with GU or its players, how they play or what their strengths are. GU plans to use Monroe out on the perimeter to setup the offense…a point center if you will…like they did with Jeff Green (point forward). With Monroe out of the paint (and taking the opposing team's pivot with him), GU COULD use Abraham in the pivot for easy baskets and rebounding…one of his specialties. On defense, IF Monroe works on his lateral movement and becomes a better perimeter defender, then Moses can sit in the paint and block shots and we could have a 7-0 center out on the wing. It would (hopefully) be a matchup nightmare for other teams.

  • USMCsoldier

    You're rationalizing a decision and never looked at GU's extensive history of producing NBA caliber pivots who come back to GU to teach new, young centers. Your post also tells me you are NOT familiar at all with GU or its players, how they play or what their strengths are. GU plans to use Monroe out on the perimeter to setup the offense…a point center if you will…like they did with Jeff Green (point forward). With Monroe out of the paint (and taking the opposing team's pivot with him), GU COULD use Abraham in the pivot for easy baskets and rebounding…one of his specialties. On defense, IF Monroe works on his lateral movement and becomes a better perimeter defender, then Moses can sit in the paint and block shots and we could have a 7-0 center out on the wing. It would (hopefully) be a matchup nightmare for other teams.

  • USMCsoldier

    You're rationalizing a decision and never looked at GU's extensive history of producing NBA caliber pivots who come back to GU to teach new, young centers. Your post also tells me you are NOT familiar at all with GU or its players, how they play or what their strengths are. GU plans to use Monroe out on the perimeter to setup the offense…a point center if you will…like they did with Jeff Green (point forward). With Monroe out of the paint (and taking the opposing team's pivot with him), GU COULD use Abraham in the pivot for easy baskets and rebounding…one of his specialties. On defense, IF Monroe works on his lateral movement and becomes a better perimeter defender, then Moses can sit in the paint and block shots and we could have a 7-0 center out on the wing. It would (hopefully) be a matchup nightmare for other teams.

  • USMCsoldier

    You're rationalizing a decision and never looked at GU's extensive history of producing NBA caliber pivots who come back to GU to teach new, young centers. Your post also tells me you are NOT familiar at all with GU or its players, how they play or what their strengths are. GU plans to use Monroe out on the perimeter to setup the offense…a point center if you will…like they did with Jeff Green (point forward). With Monroe out of the paint (and taking the opposing team's pivot with him), GU COULD use Abraham in the pivot for easy baskets and rebounding…one of his specialties. On defense, IF Monroe works on his lateral movement and becomes a better perimeter defender, then Moses can sit in the paint and block shots and we could have a 7-0 center out on the wing. It would (hopefully) be a matchup nightmare for other teams.

  • USMCsoldier

    You're rationalizing a decision and never looked at GU's extensive history of producing NBA caliber pivots who come back to GU to teach new, young centers. Your post also tells me you are NOT familiar at all with GU or its players, how they play or what their strengths are. GU plans to use Monroe out on the perimeter to setup the offense…a point center if you will…like they did with Jeff Green (point forward). With Monroe out of the paint (and taking the opposing team's pivot with him), GU COULD use Abraham in the pivot for easy baskets and rebounding…one of his specialties. On defense, IF Monroe works on his lateral movement and becomes a better perimeter defender, then Moses can sit in the paint and block shots and we could have a 7-0 center out on the wing. It would (hopefully) be a matchup nightmare for other teams.

  • USMCsoldier

    You're rationalizing a decision and never looked at GU's extensive history of producing NBA caliber pivots who come back to GU to teach new, young centers. Your post also tells me you are NOT familiar at all with GU or its players, how they play or what their strengths are. GU plans to use Monroe out on the perimeter to setup the offense…a point center if you will…like they did with Jeff Green (point forward). With Monroe out of the paint (and taking the opposing team's pivot with him), GU COULD use Abraham in the pivot for easy baskets and rebounding…one of his specialties. On defense, IF Monroe works on his lateral movement and becomes a better perimeter defender, then Moses can sit in the paint and block shots and we could have a 7-0 center out on the wing. It would (hopefully) be a matchup nightmare for other teams.

  • USMCsoldier

    You're rationalizing a decision and never looked at GU's extensive history of producing NBA caliber pivots who come back to GU to teach new, young centers. Your post also tells me you are NOT familiar at all with GU or its players, how they play or what their strengths are. GU plans to use Monroe out on the perimeter to setup the offense…a point center if you will…like they did with Jeff Green (point forward). With Monroe out of the paint (and taking the opposing team's pivot with him), GU COULD use Abraham in the pivot for easy baskets and rebounding…one of his specialties. On defense, IF Monroe works on his lateral movement and becomes a better perimeter defender, then Moses can sit in the paint and block shots and we could have a 7-0 center out on the wing. It would (hopefully) be a matchup nightmare for other teams.

  • USMCsoldier

    You're rationalizing a decision and never looked at GU's extensive history of producing NBA caliber pivots who come back to GU to teach new, young centers. Your post also tells me you are NOT familiar at all with GU or its players, how they play or what their strengths are. GU plans to use Monroe out on the perimeter to setup the offense…a point center if you will…like they did with Jeff Green (point forward). With Monroe out of the paint (and taking the opposing team's pivot with him), GU COULD use Abraham in the pivot for easy baskets and rebounding…one of his specialties. On defense, IF Monroe works on his lateral movement and becomes a better perimeter defender, then Moses can sit in the paint and block shots and we could have a 7-0 center out on the wing. It would (hopefully) be a matchup nightmare for other teams.

  • USMCsoldier

    I'm going to take this as a joke, but maybe it was real. The fact that you would consider a former player possibly slandering another is inappropriate, for the sake of getting a team and program changing athlete.

  • USMCsoldier

    I'm going to take this as a joke, but maybe it was real. The fact that you would consider a former player possibly slandering another is inappropriate, for the sake of getting a team and program changing athlete.

  • USMCsoldier

    I'm going to take this as a joke, but maybe it was real. The fact that you would consider a former player possibly slandering another is inappropriate, for the sake of getting a team and program changing athlete.

  • USMCsoldier

    I'm going to take this as a joke, but maybe it was real. The fact that you would consider a former player possibly slandering another is inappropriate, for the sake of getting a team and program changing athlete.

  • USMCsoldier

    I'm going to take this as a joke, but maybe it was real. The fact that you would consider a former player possibly slandering another is inappropriate, for the sake of getting a team and program changing athlete.

  • USMCsoldier

    I'm going to take this as a joke, but maybe it was real. The fact that you would consider a former player possibly slandering another is inappropriate, for the sake of getting a team and program changing athlete.

  • USMCsoldier

    I'm going to take this as a joke, but maybe it was real. The fact that you would consider a former player possibly slandering another is inappropriate, for the sake of getting a team and program changing athlete.

  • USMCsoldier

    Agreed! IU was never in Abraham's mind. This was about Boncore trying to be nice to Crean. That's all.

  • USMCsoldier

    Agreed! IU was never in Abraham's mind. This was about Boncore trying to be nice to Crean. That's all.

  • USMCsoldier

    Agreed! IU was never in Abraham's mind. This was about Boncore trying to be nice to Crean. That's all.

  • USMCsoldier

    Agreed! IU was never in Abraham's mind. This was about Boncore trying to be nice to Crean. That's all.

  • USMCsoldier

    Agreed! IU was never in Abraham's mind. This was about Boncore trying to be nice to Crean. That's all.

  • USMCsoldier

    Agreed! IU was never in Abraham's mind. This was about Boncore trying to be nice to Crean. That's all.

  • USMCsoldier

    Rivers was a guard at GU. Moses will play in the pivot. Big, HUGE difference between what Rivers could say to slander GU…not GT (that's Georgia Tech). GU is the better school. Better academics. Better history with big men. I could go on. But Moses made the best decision for him. NOT Rivers..aka the spoiled rich brat of NBA coach Doc Rivers. There is a HUGE difference between the two.

  • USMCsoldier

    He will backup Greg Monroe or he will be paired with Monroe, who is coming back, to form a two-headed shotblocking monster in the post for us.

  • USMCsoldier

    Hopefully he'll create a lot of “HOLY MOSES” headlines in the Big East for us.

  • USMCsoldier

    GU didn't have senior leadership this year. They will have 3 seniors next year. And Moses will learn a lot under the tutelage of Monroe and past Hoya centers….that, along with his uncle's desire for him to play at GU is the reason why he chose GU. IU doesn't have any history of teaching the pivot like GU does. The lineage is epic and historic. GU has the longest tradition of producing big men than any other NCAA team. Ewing, Mourning, Mutombo, Harrington, Sweetney, Hibbert, Monroe. All have played or are still playing in the NBA. Those that are no longer playing, go back to GU to coachteach the up-and-coming centers. Neither IU, nor any other school has that connection.

  • USMCsoldier

    They did? Hmmm….

  • USMCsoldier

    From all accounts we are getting here in the DC area. He's healed and ready to go.

  • USMCsoldier

    Agreed. It never occurred to me that Moses was coming to IU. First, it was a battle between GU and Maryland. then GU and IU. The constant was GU. Boncore was just throwing Crean a bone and maybe one day it will pan out for another (smaller) recruit.

  • USMCsoldier

    Another comment I'd like to make, is that a lot of you guys forget about the competition. A lot of kids, will pick a team based on the conference as well. It's no secret that the Big 10 — as a whole — has been down. It's not anywhere near the strength of the Big East. Hate and get angry all you want, but there were reasons why his uncle wanted him to go to GU over Maryland and IU and a lot of factors go into making that decision. Sure, he would the pre-eminent pivot in the Big 10…but the lure of playing against Syracuse at the Carrier Dome and in the Big East Tourney at world famous Madison Square Garden…is hard to beat. I am trying to get you all to look at the bigger picture…not just him coming to IU. There are other considerations as well: learning from Ewing, who is constanly on GU's campus. Mourning is always here. Mutombo is here all the time. Learning from Monroe. Being in Washington DC around all the monuments and the Nation's Capitol. Remember, the kid is from Nigeria. That is appealing to a lot of kids from foreign countries. The father. Big John STILL is involved in the recruiting and there is simply no way in hell Crean can compete with the legendary John Thompson — the father, was played a HUGE part in his recruitment. Then there's the long lineage of NBA pivots for GU. The Final Four in 2007. The back-to-back Big East Titles in 2006 and 2007. In all honesty, IU never had a chance. I'm sure you all will take issue with this post, but there were reasons why he chose GU over IU. I am merely pointing out some of the possibilities.

  • vslice

    Are you trying to say Moses will be used as the 5 and Monroe at the 4? Kinda sounds like it too me and if indeed this is what your trying to say then I dont follow you. Actually I could care less what Georgetown is doing or what offense they are running. The way they handled the entire process is sad and embarrassing for college basketball and anyone who recruits with dignity toward the kid's. John Boncore already stated that the Thompson Twins were calling him and yelling at him for even letting MA go to visit Indiana. Said they were extremely upset with him cause they thought he was going to Indiana. Pretty weak, I didnt care either for or against the Thompson Twins up until this happened. Now I can say I have very little respect for them, but who cares….who am I??? No one, or just a guy who cant stand JT3 & JT2. Georgetown, everyone knows them as the big man school, right? I'd rather be known for the school that wins national championships. Sounds like they have their expectations in the wrong place. Everyone knows GTown is the school where big guys go and everyone knows that GTown is the school that never wins national championships. How many good teams have they had over the years??? How many national championships??? ONE — and that was like 1984 or something, sad really. As bad of shape as IU is in right now we can at least say we have been to a final game and won a national championship since GTown has. At the end of the day winning national championships is the goal, not winning recruiting battles of big men. So it doesnt matter what kind of offense they run, doesnt matter how many big men come to their school, all that matters is how many national championships they have won and how many they are going to win in the next ten years. So when you look at it like that, IU isn't very far behind at all.

  • marcusgresham

    I was joking in the way that I worded it, but there was a grain of reality in the fact that maybe there were some things that weren't so great in Rivers' eyes that he might have have mentioned. Slander is only when it's a presentation of inaccuracies given as fact, and I wouldn't want him to have done that at all.