Comments on: When There’s Nothing On The Horizon You’ve Got Nothing Left To Prove: Saying farewell to the 2008-09 Indiana Hoosiers http://www.insidethehall.com/2009/03/16/when-theres-nothing-on-the-horizon-youve-got-nothing-left-to-prove-saying-farewell-to-the-2008-09-indiana-hoosiers/ Sun, 21 Mar 2010 08:19:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: gregmquinn http://www.insidethehall.com/2009/03/16/when-theres-nothing-on-the-horizon-youve-got-nothing-left-to-prove-saying-farewell-to-the-2008-09-indiana-hoosiers/comment-page-1/#comment-37219 gregmquinn Wed, 18 Mar 2009 05:35:19 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=2544#comment-37219 I was surprised by Story's lack of minutes all season long. While he certainly made a lot of dumb mistakes, he is a legitimate D-1 athlete and should have been in the game during crunch time vs. Penn State etc. ahead of Fink and Moore. It felt like he was in Crean's doghouse a lot this year. Hard to know how Crean's relationship is with Dumes, but I would bet Story and Dumes are most likely to leave before next year. We have plenty of depth in our back court and neither seem to be in our long term plans. <br><br>My starting 5 for next year:<br><br>PG: Hulls<br>SG: Jones<br>SF: Watford<br>PF: Elston<br>C: Pritchard<br><br>This might not be Crean's starting 5, but I would like to see more size on the floor and we need some toughness at PG. I think Rivers, Creek and Williams will be first off the bench. I expect Roth to redshirt. While Roth's shooting was really fun to watch this year, I just can't see him getting minutes ahead of any of our other guards. His transfer would be no big surprise. I was surprised by Story's lack of minutes all season long. While he certainly made a lot of dumb mistakes, he is a legitimate D-1 athlete and should have been in the game during crunch time vs. Penn State etc. ahead of Fink and Moore. It felt like he was in Crean's doghouse a lot this year. Hard to know how Crean's relationship is with Dumes, but I would bet Story and Dumes are most likely to leave before next year. We have plenty of depth in our back court and neither seem to be in our long term plans.

My starting 5 for next year:

PG: Hulls
SG: Jones
SF: Watford
PF: Elston
C: Pritchard

This might not be Crean's starting 5, but I would like to see more size on the floor and we need some toughness at PG. I think Rivers, Creek and Williams will be first off the bench. I expect Roth to redshirt. While Roth's shooting was really fun to watch this year, I just can't see him getting minutes ahead of any of our other guards. His transfer would be no big surprise.

]]> By: MillaRed http://www.insidethehall.com/2009/03/16/when-theres-nothing-on-the-horizon-youve-got-nothing-left-to-prove-saying-farewell-to-the-2008-09-indiana-hoosiers/comment-page-1/#comment-37216 MillaRed Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:15:34 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=2544#comment-37216 Good call on Rivers. I have wondered if that was thier ace in the hole since his dad was loaded. Good call on Rivers. I have wondered if that was thier ace in the hole since his dad was loaded.

]]> By: gregmquinn http://www.insidethehall.com/2009/03/16/when-theres-nothing-on-the-horizon-youve-got-nothing-left-to-prove-saying-farewell-to-the-2008-09-indiana-hoosiers/comment-page-1/#comment-24018 gregmquinn Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:35:19 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=2544#comment-24018 I was surprised by Story's lack of minutes all season long. While he certainly made a lot of dumb mistakes, he is a legitimate D-1 athlete and should have been in the game during crunch time vs. Penn State etc. ahead of Fink and Moore. It felt like he was in Crean's doghouse a lot this year. Hard to know how Crean's relationship is with Dumes, but I would bet Story and Dumes are most likely to leave before next year. We have plenty of depth in our back court and neither seem to be in our long term plans. <br><br>My starting 5 for next year:<br><br>PG: Hulls<br>SG: Jones<br>SF: Watford<br>PF: Elston<br>C: Pritchard<br><br>This might not be Crean's starting 5, but I would like to see more size on the floor and we need some toughness at PG. I think Rivers, Creek and Williams will be first off the bench. I expect Roth to redshirt. I was surprised by Story's lack of minutes all season long. While he certainly made a lot of dumb mistakes, he is a legitimate D-1 athlete and should have been in the game during crunch time vs. Penn State etc. ahead of Fink and Moore. It felt like he was in Crean's doghouse a lot this year. Hard to know how Crean's relationship is with Dumes, but I would bet Story and Dumes are most likely to leave before next year. We have plenty of depth in our back court and neither seem to be in our long term plans.

My starting 5 for next year:

PG: Hulls
SG: Jones
SF: Watford
PF: Elston
C: Pritchard

This might not be Crean's starting 5, but I would like to see more size on the floor and we need some toughness at PG. I think Rivers, Creek and Williams will be first off the bench. I expect Roth to redshirt.

]]> By: MillaRed http://www.insidethehall.com/2009/03/16/when-theres-nothing-on-the-horizon-youve-got-nothing-left-to-prove-saying-farewell-to-the-2008-09-indiana-hoosiers/comment-page-1/#comment-24016 MillaRed Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:15:34 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=2544#comment-24016 Good call on Rivers. I have wondered if that was thier ace in the hole since his dad was loaded. Good call on Rivers. I have wondered if that was thier ace in the hole since his dad was loaded.

]]> By: IUfanGary28 http://www.insidethehall.com/2009/03/16/when-theres-nothing-on-the-horizon-youve-got-nothing-left-to-prove-saying-farewell-to-the-2008-09-indiana-hoosiers/comment-page-1/#comment-24015 IUfanGary28 Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:39:58 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=2544#comment-24015 I think next year could be better than most are thinking. <br><br>PG: Rivers<br>SG: Dumes<br>G/F: Jones<br>F: Waterford<br>C: Pritchard<br><br>I think we the above lineup we can compete at a pretty high level. Rivers may not be the most talented player but he has 2 years at a big time program and also a year to basically be a coach on the sideline. He will take control and run this team and you will see some of the silly mistakes made by VJIII and Moore at the point go away. Jones was impressive at the end of the year and with him not having to bring the ball up all the time I could seem him blossoming into a really good player. Plus we have depth next year. <br><br>We might not win the Big Ten but I could see us being a Middle of the pack team and competing for a NCAA berth. Lets hope Rivers pays his own way and we don't lose anyone! I think next year could be better than most are thinking.

PG: Rivers
SG: Dumes
G/F: Jones
F: Waterford
C: Pritchard

I think we the above lineup we can compete at a pretty high level. Rivers may not be the most talented player but he has 2 years at a big time program and also a year to basically be a coach on the sideline. He will take control and run this team and you will see some of the silly mistakes made by VJIII and Moore at the point go away. Jones was impressive at the end of the year and with him not having to bring the ball up all the time I could seem him blossoming into a really good player. Plus we have depth next year.

We might not win the Big Ten but I could see us being a Middle of the pack team and competing for a NCAA berth. Lets hope Rivers pays his own way and we don't lose anyone!

]]> By: tacojohn http://www.insidethehall.com/2009/03/16/when-theres-nothing-on-the-horizon-youve-got-nothing-left-to-prove-saying-farewell-to-the-2008-09-indiana-hoosiers/comment-page-1/#comment-24014 tacojohn Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:44:29 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=2544#comment-24014 We learned that Crean could coach up and make competitive a team composed of players playing out of their roles and at a level some never expected. That's a lot different than taking a talent laden team and taking it to a title, which is the true measure of on-court success at IU. And while the returns from Marquette are good on that front, it might be a while before we learned whether he can really coach. We learned that Crean could coach up and make competitive a team composed of players playing out of their roles and at a level some never expected. That's a lot different than taking a talent laden team and taking it to a title, which is the true measure of on-court success at IU. And while the returns from Marquette are good on that front, it might be a while before we learned whether he can really coach.

]]> By: Dan Leavitt Jr http://www.insidethehall.com/2009/03/16/when-theres-nothing-on-the-horizon-youve-got-nothing-left-to-prove-saying-farewell-to-the-2008-09-indiana-hoosiers/comment-page-1/#comment-24013 Dan Leavitt Jr Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:07:55 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=2544#comment-24013 I thoroughly enjoyed watching this Hoosier team grow and get better and scare the bejesus out of better, more talented teams in the big ten. I particularly enjoyed watching us come back from down 20 or so against Illinois, at B-town, to cut it to 6 late in the game and have Bruce Weber look down at Crean and know that this was the last time he would dominate an IU team. He knew it, we knew it and if Illinois fans have any idea of how the great game of BBall works (which I have serious doubt), they knew it. <br><br>I enjoyed watching IUs fans get into every game and Crean tackle the band director. I enjoyed watching Crean coach until the very end only to have to literally pick up his players after tough losses like the one at Northwestern. (Which was my favorite game of the season for some reason). <br><br>But most of all I loved watching US come back as a nation of god given birthright basketball fans, united under one front, that of IU basketball. WE are back as a fanbase and I love every minute of it. <br><br>Was this season a terrible catastrophic mess as far as wins and loses are concerned? Yes, but was it the greatest season we have had as a complete fan base since the General left? You bet your sweet ass it was. WE are back IU and I couldnt have been more proud of my heritage as an IU fan. <br><br>Go IU fight fight fight, for the glory of old IU<br><br>Bring on 2009 I thoroughly enjoyed watching this Hoosier team grow and get better and scare the bejesus out of better, more talented teams in the big ten. I particularly enjoyed watching us come back from down 20 or so against Illinois, at B-town, to cut it to 6 late in the game and have Bruce Weber look down at Crean and know that this was the last time he would dominate an IU team. He knew it, we knew it and if Illinois fans have any idea of how the great game of BBall works (which I have serious doubt), they knew it.

I enjoyed watching IUs fans get into every game and Crean tackle the band director. I enjoyed watching Crean coach until the very end only to have to literally pick up his players after tough losses like the one at Northwestern. (Which was my favorite game of the season for some reason).

But most of all I loved watching US come back as a nation of god given birthright basketball fans, united under one front, that of IU basketball. WE are back as a fanbase and I love every minute of it.

Was this season a terrible catastrophic mess as far as wins and loses are concerned? Yes, but was it the greatest season we have had as a complete fan base since the General left? You bet your sweet ass it was. WE are back IU and I couldnt have been more proud of my heritage as an IU fan.

Go IU fight fight fight, for the glory of old IU

Bring on 2009

]]> By: HoosierDavey http://www.insidethehall.com/2009/03/16/when-theres-nothing-on-the-horizon-youve-got-nothing-left-to-prove-saying-farewell-to-the-2008-09-indiana-hoosiers/comment-page-1/#comment-24012 HoosierDavey Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:49:55 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=2544#comment-24012 I would really hate it if Roth left. He has the ability to be an effective zone buster for us no matter how many studs we bring in. Watching that 9 3-pointer game against OSU was the highlight of my year! I would really hate it if Roth left. He has the ability to be an effective zone buster for us no matter how many studs we bring in. Watching that 9 3-pointer game against OSU was the highlight of my year!

]]> By: Mike http://www.insidethehall.com/2009/03/16/when-theres-nothing-on-the-horizon-youve-got-nothing-left-to-prove-saying-farewell-to-the-2008-09-indiana-hoosiers/comment-page-1/#comment-24011 Mike Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:19:49 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=2544#comment-24011 We should adopt the phoenix as our mascot for next year, because we've went through the fire this year and came out reborn. I think this is one of the most memorable teams in IU history. Obviously not because of the basketball, but because of the way the coaches, players, students, and fans all pulled together, despite the terrible play. It proved that at IU, winning isn't everything, and it certainly isn't the only thing, but one part of what makes IU Basketball so great (although it is a rather large and important part). We should adopt the phoenix as our mascot for next year, because we've went through the fire this year and came out reborn. I think this is one of the most memorable teams in IU history. Obviously not because of the basketball, but because of the way the coaches, players, students, and fans all pulled together, despite the terrible play. It proved that at IU, winning isn't everything, and it certainly isn't the only thing, but one part of what makes IU Basketball so great (although it is a rather large and important part).

]]> By: Beth P http://www.insidethehall.com/2009/03/16/when-theres-nothing-on-the-horizon-youve-got-nothing-left-to-prove-saying-farewell-to-the-2008-09-indiana-hoosiers/comment-page-1/#comment-24009 Beth P Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:05:48 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=2544#comment-24009 I would like to thank the vast majority of wonderful IU fans for their support of a young and inexperienced team. They had to make their way through a season where every other team had a full roster of scholarship players. They are not horrible or lacking in talent. The Big Ten is not a weak conference with 7 teams picked to go to the NCAA tournament. I am very proud of the Coaches and the team for staying positive and never giving up! I would like to thank the vast majority of wonderful IU fans for their support of a young and inexperienced team. They had to make their way through a season where every other team had a full roster of scholarship players. They are not horrible or lacking in talent. The Big Ten is not a weak conference with 7 teams picked to go to the NCAA tournament. I am very proud of the Coaches and the team for staying positive and never giving up!

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