IU-Wisconsin: Postgame Open Thread

  • 03/08/2009 8:53 pm in

FINAL SCORE: Wisconsin 85, Indiana 61

There’s not a lot to write about this game that hasn’t been written already this season. The regular season is over. IU finishes up the Big Ten season with a 1-17 record.

The Hoosiers shot relatively well from the field in Madison (54 percent), but committed 16 turnovers, missed nine free throws and were out-rebounded 28-19. That’s not exactly a recipe for winning basketball games.

The Badgers, on the other hand, hit 52 percent from the field, hit 7 of 14 from 3-point range and knocked down 26 of 32 free throws.

Verdell Jones set a career high with 23 points as did Nick Williams with 19 points.

With that, we’ll leave it in your hands. Thoughts about this game, the regular season as a whole and your predictions heading into a 5PM ET matchup on Thursday with Penn State in the Big Ten Tournament are welcome in the comments.

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  • memphisHoosier

    well let me start this off by saying thank you to all of the guys on this team who put in their blood and sweat all year. I am impressed with how hard everyone played till the end. however, lets be honest here we've seen the last of a lot of these guys. Tijan won't be on the team next year. Moore may only because he doesn't use up a scholorship. Anhy of those who think Jones will start next year are forgetting about who all is gonna be on this team next year. I believe Rivers starts the point with watford and Creek at the two and three. The four and five spots will rotate somewhat between Tom, Capo, Elston, and Bawa. They might go small and put another guard like Dumes in there but I don't see Many if any of these guys starting next season except maybe Dumes or Pritchard. They'll be a strong bench and I think Jones might start some depending on how much weight he can put on and how much he can cut down on turnovers but if he doesn't learn to get in front of the guy with the ball on defense he'll see a lot of pine.

  • JerryCT

    As usual people “breath their own exhaust” when it comes to freshmen.

    The players and why:

    Rivers – PG at 24+ min pg, we get 6 fewer TO's pg and shut down perimeter D, exactly what we have missed this year. He is worth a net 6-8pts
    Jones – SG for 18min and 8 min at PG, displaces Dumes because he passes and is more consistent scorer, can play w/o the ball
    Pritchard – C/FW for 24 min pg, we have no other inside experience
    Watford – 20+ min pg becasue he can score and rebound and we donot have to have 6'3″ players defending 6'8+”
    Williams- aggressive and scores ,when we go small , 18 min pg
    Capo – 20minpg because he bangs and picks doing Taber's dirty work

    Elston plays to relieve Capo & Pritchard,
    Dumes plays to relieve Jones and help Hulls when he is on the floor
    Story relieves Williams

    No room for a skinny Creek to replace Dumes or Jones and cannot beat out Williams or Watford unless his defense is dynamite, No room for Roth either unless he becomes automatic from 3pt land and much easier to get open.

    These are not criticisms but more like realities of the work ahead for these guys.

  • JerryCT

    As usual people “breath their own exhaust” when it comes to freshmen.

    The players and why:

    Rivers – PG at 24+ min pg, we get 6 fewer TO's pg and shut down perimeter D, exactly what we have missed this year. He is worth a net 6-8pts
    Jones – SG for 18min and 8 min at PG, displaces Dumes because he passes and is more consistent scorer, can play w/o the ball
    Pritchard – C/FW for 24 min pg, we have no other inside experience
    Watford – 20+ min pg becasue he can score and rebound and we donot have to have 6'3″ players defending 6'8+”
    Williams- aggressive and scores ,when we go small , 18 min pg
    Capo – 20minpg because he bangs and picks doing Taber's dirty work

    Elston plays to relieve Capo & Pritchard,
    Dumes plays to relieve Jones and help Hulls when he is on the floor
    Story relieves Williams

    No room for a skinny Creek to replace Dumes or Jones and cannot beat out Williams or Watford unless his defense is dynamite, No room for Roth either unless he becomes automatic from 3pt land and much easier to get open.

    These are not criticisms but more like realities of the work ahead for these guys.

  • IU Marine

    I did not expect VJ to get much playing time next season, but I have been impressed with his improvement in the last 6 or so games. I am not ready to write off William's playing time yet. He was one of our most consistent rebounders/effort guys. A little time in the weight room in the off season and a lot of us may be impressed. I vote that we recover our “missing” scholarship from Dumes. I noticed some undesireable attitude from him even before it blew up at Northwestern and Michigan state.

    I'll have to see about the incoming recruits next year based on their work ethics over the summer, but from what I have read, I have high hopes for Creek. The team should be way ahead next year with the number of players that have a feel for the Coach Crean system.

    Go IU beat Penn State!

  • IU Marine

    I did not expect VJ to get much playing time next season, but I have been impressed with his improvement in the last 6 or so games. I am not ready to write off William's playing time yet. He was one of our most consistent rebounders/effort guys. A little time in the weight room in the off season and a lot of us may be impressed. I vote that we recover our “missing” scholarship from Dumes. I noticed some undesireable attitude from him even before it blew up at Northwestern and Michigan state.

    I'll have to see about the incoming recruits next year based on their work ethics over the summer, but from what I have read, I have high hopes for Creek. The team should be way ahead next year with the number of players that have a feel for the Coach Crean system.

    Go IU beat Penn State!

  • MillaRed

    Where did this Maurice Creek “skinny” deal come from? I'm hearing he's up to 205 pounds and is the same height as VIII who is 175 soaking wet. He is the leading scorer on a Hargrave team with 4 high major scholly commits. He will lead the Hoosiers in scoring someday (yes I love to dream big). Regardless, this guy plays next season and contributes.

    I like the entries for next year's top 10. I never really thought about redshirting a sophomore so thanks for that possibility. I was wondering what we were gonna do and that sounds like the best option. It's tough because we only lose Dumes and Jobe and have zero commits in 2010. Sure would love to have a beer with Coach Crean to discuss.

    First Unit:
    PG Rivers
    SG VIII
    SF Watford
    PF Pritchard
    C Capo

    That's a starting five at 6'4″, 6'4″, 6'8″, 6'8″, 6'8″ – Thank the Lord

    Second unit:

    PG Hulls
    SG Dumes or Roth as a zone breaker
    SF Williams or Creek as we go small
    PF Elston or Story
    C Maniru only if the other 3 are in foul trouble

    Realit ycheck….no way all of these players return in 2010. The guys that show the most ability stay on and 2 or 3 bolt or redshirt during the season or before 2010. We are going for high profile 2010 recruits. Why wouldn't we with this foundation? The fact someone has to go is no different than the fact we had walk-ons playing major minutes this year. It's just inevitbale. I don't see any way around it.

  • MillaRed

    Where did this Maurice Creek “skinny” deal come from? I'm hearing he's up to 205 pounds and is the same height as VIII who is 175 soaking wet. He is the leading scorer on a Hargrave team with 4 high major scholly commits. He will lead the Hoosiers in scoring someday (yes I love to dream big). Regardless, this guy plays next season and contributes.

    I like the entries for next year's top 10. I never really thought about redshirting a sophomore so thanks for that possibility. I was wondering what we were gonna do and that sounds like the best option. It's tough because we only lose Dumes and Jobe and have zero commits in 2010. Sure would love to have a beer with Coach Crean to discuss.

    First Unit:
    PG Rivers
    SG VIII
    SF Watford
    PF Pritchard
    C Capo

    That's a starting five at 6'4″, 6'4″, 6'8″, 6'8″, 6'8″ – Thank the Lord

    Second unit:

    PG Hulls
    SG Dumes or Roth as a zone breaker
    SF Williams or Creek as we go small
    PF Elston or Story
    C Maniru only if the other 3 are in foul trouble

    Realit ycheck….no way all of these players return in 2010. The guys that show the most ability stay on and 2 or 3 bolt or redshirt during the season or before 2010. We are going for high profile 2010 recruits. Why wouldn't we with this foundation? The fact someone has to go is no different than the fact we had walk-ons playing major minutes this year. It's just inevitbale. I don't see any way around it.

  • memphisHoosier

    well let me start this off by saying thank you to all of the guys on this team who put in their blood and sweat all year. I am impressed with how hard everyone played till the end. however, lets be honest here we've seen the last of a lot of these guys. Tijan won't be on the team next year. Moore may only because he doesn't use up a scholorship. Anhy of those who think Jones will start next year are forgetting about who all is gonna be on this team next year. I believe Rivers starts the point with watford and Creek at the two and three. The four and five spots will rotate somewhat between Tom, Capo, Elston, and Bawa. They might go small and put another guard like Dumes in there but I don't see Many if any of these guys starting next season except maybe Dumes or Pritchard. They'll be a strong bench and I think Jones might start some depending on how much weight he can put on and how much he can cut down on turnovers but if he doesn't learn to get in front of the guy with the ball on defense he'll see a lot of pine.

  • JerryCT

    As usual people “breath their own exhaust” when it comes to freshmen.

    The players and why:

    Rivers – PG at 24+ min pg, we get 6 fewer TO's pg and shut down perimeter D, exactly what we have missed this year. He is worth a net 6-8pts
    Jones – SG for 18min and 8 min at PG, displaces Dumes because he passes and is more consistent scorer, can play w/o the ball
    Pritchard – C/FW for 24 min pg, we have no other inside experience
    Watford – 20+ min pg becasue he can score and rebound and we donot have to have 6'3″ players defending 6'8+”
    Williams- aggressive and scores ,when we go small , 18 min pg
    Capo – 20minpg because he bangs and picks doing Taber's dirty work

    Elston plays to relieve Capo & Pritchard,
    Dumes plays to relieve Jones and help Hulls when he is on the floor
    Story relieves Williams

    No room for a skinny Creek to replace Dumes or Jones and cannot beat out Williams or Watford unless his defense is dynamite, No room for Roth either unless he becomes automatic from 3pt land and much easier to get open.

    These are not criticisms but more like realities of the work ahead for these guys.

  • IU Marine

    I did not expect VJ to get much playing time next season, but I have been impressed with his improvement in the last 6 or so games. I am not ready to write off William's playing time yet. He was one of our most consistent rebounders/effort guys. A little time in the weight room in the off season and a lot of us may be impressed. I vote that we recover our “missing” scholarship from Dumes. I noticed some undesireable attitude from him even before it blew up at Northwestern and Michigan state.

    I'll have to see about the incoming recruits next year based on their work ethics over the summer, but from what I have read, I have high hopes for Creek. The team should be way ahead next year with the number of players that have a feel for the Coach Crean system.

    Go IU beat Penn State!

  • MillaRed

    Where did this Maurice Creek “skinny” deal come from? I'm hearing he's up to 205 pounds and is the same height as VIII who is 175 soaking wet. He is the leading scorer on a Hargrave team with 4 high major scholly commits. He will lead the Hoosiers in scoring someday (yes I love to dream big). Regardless, this guy plays next season and contributes.

    I like the entries for next year's top 10. I never really thought about redshirting a sophomore so thanks for that possibility. I was wondering what we were gonna do and that sounds like the best option. It's tough because we only lose Dumes and Jobe and have zero commits in 2010. Sure would love to have a beer with Coach Crean to discuss.

    First Unit:
    PG Rivers
    SG VIII
    SF Watford
    PF Pritchard
    C Capo

    That's a starting five at 6'4″, 6'4″, 6'8″, 6'8″, 6'8″ – Thank the Lord

    Second unit:

    PG Hulls
    SG Dumes or Roth as a zone breaker
    SF Williams or Creek as we go small
    PF Elston or Story
    C Maniru only if the other 3 are in foul trouble

    Realit ycheck….no way all of these players return in 2010. The guys that show the most ability stay on and 2 or 3 bolt or redshirt during the season or before 2010. We are going for high profile 2010 recruits. Why wouldn't we with this foundation? The fact someone has to go is no different than the fact we had walk-ons playing major minutes this year. It's just inevitbale. I don't see any way around it.