Comments on: Good, Bad and Ugly: Northwestern http://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/28/good-bad-and-ugly-northwestern/ Sun, 21 Mar 2010 00:58:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: elling2008 http://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/28/good-bad-and-ugly-northwestern/comment-page-1/#comment-36505 elling2008 Sun, 01 Feb 2009 01:22:22 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=2108#comment-36505 We are getting there...just wait. We are getting there…just wait.

]]> By: elling2008 http://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/28/good-bad-and-ugly-northwestern/comment-page-1/#comment-22500 elling2008 Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:22:22 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=2108#comment-22500 We are getting there...just wait. We are getting there…just wait.

]]> By: MillaRed http://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/28/good-bad-and-ugly-northwestern/comment-page-1/#comment-22490 MillaRed Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:37:28 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=2108#comment-22490 Well said JerryCT I won't disagree. I have high hopes for Story. He just seems to be a comfortable scorer doesn't he? Hope he sticks it out he could go for 20 ppg as a senior.<br><br>The jury is still out on Williams too isn't it? I think Nick will also benefit from more talent on the floor. He's automatic from 12 feet in and can get tough rebounds at the 3 spot.<br><br>We'll see about Verdell. Ask me again after a game that he doesn't have 7 turnovers! I agree though he has talent.<br><br>I think the problem in the future we will face is we have all these kids getting playing time as FR when honestly they should be getting stronger and honing their skills. So when the talent pool immediately doubles, will they have the patience to wait their turn after getting the minutes as underclassmen?<br><br>Hey, it's a nice problem to have. But it's still a potential problem. Well said JerryCT I won't disagree. I have high hopes for Story. He just seems to be a comfortable scorer doesn't he? Hope he sticks it out he could go for 20 ppg as a senior.

The jury is still out on Williams too isn't it? I think Nick will also benefit from more talent on the floor. He's automatic from 12 feet in and can get tough rebounds at the 3 spot.

We'll see about Verdell. Ask me again after a game that he doesn't have 7 turnovers! I agree though he has talent.

I think the problem in the future we will face is we have all these kids getting playing time as FR when honestly they should be getting stronger and honing their skills. So when the talent pool immediately doubles, will they have the patience to wait their turn after getting the minutes as underclassmen?

Hey, it's a nice problem to have. But it's still a potential problem.

]]> By: JerryCT http://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/28/good-bad-and-ugly-northwestern/comment-page-1/#comment-22475 JerryCT Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:37:30 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=2108#comment-22475 Millared- My thoughts almost completely. <br><br>The only modifications I would offer is that the most competitve kids today on the roster, based on who is getting better and more consistent, are VJIII and Story. It will be fun to see how they come in next year ready to compete. I imagine VJ as the next Devin Harris....we cannot lose him. I think he can replace Dumes by next year sometime.<br><br>I fear Roth, Williams have the most work to do. Is Williams a shooter, a rebounder, a ball handler, a defender or is he all of these or none of these ? Same with Story . It is hard to fit either into a lineup role next year but yet they do many things partially well. <br><br>Story being from Ca may be ready to go home but I hope not.<br><br>With increased scoring ability next year I think defense will separate who plays who does not. This is why Hulls, Moore, Roth, Creek may be limited in PT even if they can hit 3's. They will need to show they are not a liability on D. Same for Muniru Millared- My thoughts almost completely.

The only modifications I would offer is that the most competitve kids today on the roster, based on who is getting better and more consistent, are VJIII and Story. It will be fun to see how they come in next year ready to compete. I imagine VJ as the next Devin Harris….we cannot lose him. I think he can replace Dumes by next year sometime.

I fear Roth, Williams have the most work to do. Is Williams a shooter, a rebounder, a ball handler, a defender or is he all of these or none of these ? Same with Story . It is hard to fit either into a lineup role next year but yet they do many things partially well.

Story being from Ca may be ready to go home but I hope not.

With increased scoring ability next year I think defense will separate who plays who does not. This is why Hulls, Moore, Roth, Creek may be limited in PT even if they can hit 3's. They will need to show they are not a liability on D. Same for Muniru

]]> By: MillaRed http://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/28/good-bad-and-ugly-northwestern/comment-page-1/#comment-22474 MillaRed Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:23:00 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=2108#comment-22474 Gary, I think we'll look more like this to start 09. The depth really looks good. As a matter of fact, I would expect a transfer ot two over the next few seasons unfortunately.<br><br>PG Rivers<br>SG Dumes<br>SF Watford<br>PF Pritchard<br>C Capobianco<br><br>Rivers has been waiting to lead a team for three years. To say he is mentally ready is an understatement. Dumes gets talent around him that can give him more space to create. Watford is a match-up nightmare at the SF position. Pritchard gets a lot of garbage points on the weak side. The C position is the question mark. Capobianco fits the mold. Maniru is a project at best much like Jobe.<br><br>PG - Jones or Hulls (expect this to be a 2 year battle behind Rivers. Jones very well could transfer at some point. Is he patient enough behind Rivers for two years?)<br>SG - Creek with Roth busting those zones when needed<br>SF - Nick Williams<br>PF - Malik Story<br>C - Elston (Either Pritchard or Capo will always be on the floor, and Elston gives them a 3rd option in the paint) I think Maniru is at least 2 years away. I hope I'm wrong.<br><br>Sorry guys but I don't see Moore getting anything but garbage time after this season unless he can start hitting threes. Gary, I think we'll look more like this to start 09. The depth really looks good. As a matter of fact, I would expect a transfer ot two over the next few seasons unfortunately.

PG Rivers
SG Dumes
SF Watford
PF Pritchard
C Capobianco

Rivers has been waiting to lead a team for three years. To say he is mentally ready is an understatement. Dumes gets talent around him that can give him more space to create. Watford is a match-up nightmare at the SF position. Pritchard gets a lot of garbage points on the weak side. The C position is the question mark. Capobianco fits the mold. Maniru is a project at best much like Jobe.

PG – Jones or Hulls (expect this to be a 2 year battle behind Rivers. Jones very well could transfer at some point. Is he patient enough behind Rivers for two years?)
SG – Creek with Roth busting those zones when needed
SF – Nick Williams
PF – Malik Story
C – Elston (Either Pritchard or Capo will always be on the floor, and Elston gives them a 3rd option in the paint) I think Maniru is at least 2 years away. I hope I'm wrong.

Sorry guys but I don't see Moore getting anything but garbage time after this season unless he can start hitting threes.

]]> By: MikeinNC http://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/28/good-bad-and-ugly-northwestern/comment-page-1/#comment-22471 MikeinNC Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:00:42 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=2108#comment-22471 They are so close now. I think it is now 99% mental and when they get that first win to get them over the threshold we will see rapid improvement going forward....right now there is a pattern consistent with a team that, deep deep down, does is not really sure it can win the game - they can stay close, come back from a deficit and make it close, even get a lead, but in the end they just cannot finish. It's like a salesperson who can do everything right but just can't close the deal at the end because they haven't done it yet and lack the belief - once they close their first deal they start closing more and more...you see signs of this in the variety of ways that they are losing the winnable games - a poor decision with the basketball, poor FT shooting, poor 3 pt shooting, a dumb foul...whatever...it is not the same thing all the time, which tells me they are still finding ways to lose instead of finding ways to win....when they finally break through this (and they will pretty soon) I think we will be surprised at the rapid progress. TC is going to build one he** of a program over time. They are so close now. I think it is now 99% mental and when they get that first win to get them over the threshold we will see rapid improvement going forward….right now there is a pattern consistent with a team that, deep deep down, does is not really sure it can win the game – they can stay close, come back from a deficit and make it close, even get a lead, but in the end they just cannot finish. It's like a salesperson who can do everything right but just can't close the deal at the end because they haven't done it yet and lack the belief – once they close their first deal they start closing more and more…you see signs of this in the variety of ways that they are losing the winnable games – a poor decision with the basketball, poor FT shooting, poor 3 pt shooting, a dumb foul…whatever…it is not the same thing all the time, which tells me they are still finding ways to lose instead of finding ways to win….when they finally break through this (and they will pretty soon) I think we will be surprised at the rapid progress. TC is going to build one he** of a program over time.

]]> By: Kelin Blab http://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/28/good-bad-and-ugly-northwestern/comment-page-1/#comment-22467 Kelin Blab Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:31:12 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=2108#comment-22467 That was nice........Moore is a stud. I can see him next year coming into the game....popping that uniform off throwing on Fish's head...and slapping the floor at midcourt........... That was nice……..Moore is a stud. I can see him next year coming into the game….popping that uniform off throwing on Fish's head…and slapping the floor at midcourt………..

]]> By: Kelin Blab http://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/28/good-bad-and-ugly-northwestern/comment-page-1/#comment-22466 Kelin Blab Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:29:41 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=2108#comment-22466 Creek, watford, or Elston starts next year without a doubt Creek, watford, or Elston starts next year without a doubt

]]> By: Ryan_T http://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/28/good-bad-and-ugly-northwestern/comment-page-1/#comment-22465 Ryan_T Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:28:40 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=2108#comment-22465 Did anyone else laugh their asses off when Moore popped off the bench and threw his tear-away pants on top of the old dude sitting in the announcers section?<br><br>Every time they showed that replay I giggled like a little school girl. Did anyone else laugh their asses off when Moore popped off the bench and threw his tear-away pants on top of the old dude sitting in the announcers section?

Every time they showed that replay I giggled like a little school girl.

]]> By: HoosierSmitty http://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/28/good-bad-and-ugly-northwestern/comment-page-1/#comment-22463 HoosierSmitty Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:45:14 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=2108#comment-22463 I've just become a little numb to the season at this point. I went ballistic when Roth tied it up, but I tempered it quickly with the realization that we would almost surely lose - and by some bonehead play. (It turned out to be two - a foul at the top of the key and trying to inbound from half court)<br><br>It's just so frustrating to see that we've had chances to win four BT games and then lost by a combined total of 17 points - one of those in OT. (I'm not counting Penn State). <br><br>It's encouraging at the same time...but ugh...I just want that DAMN WIN!<br><br>When a team is terrible - as IU supposedly is - they should be getting blown out by like 30 points, not scrapping for these wins. It's surely a testament to these kids' hustle and teamwork, along with Crean's ability to coach and motivate...but we've got to find a W sometime soon or I'm going to lose it! <br><br>Go Hoosiers! I've just become a little numb to the season at this point. I went ballistic when Roth tied it up, but I tempered it quickly with the realization that we would almost surely lose – and by some bonehead play. (It turned out to be two – a foul at the top of the key and trying to inbound from half court)

It's just so frustrating to see that we've had chances to win four BT games and then lost by a combined total of 17 points – one of those in OT. (I'm not counting Penn State).

It's encouraging at the same time…but ugh…I just want that DAMN WIN!

When a team is terrible – as IU supposedly is – they should be getting blown out by like 30 points, not scrapping for these wins. It's surely a testament to these kids' hustle and teamwork, along with Crean's ability to coach and motivate…but we've got to find a W sometime soon or I'm going to lose it!

Go Hoosiers!

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