Comments on: Good, Bad and Ugly: Lipscomb http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/12/28/good-bad-and-ugly-lipscomb/ Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:27:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: NC Fat Boy http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/12/28/good-bad-and-ugly-lipscomb/comment-page-1/#comment-37387 NC Fat Boy Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:51:48 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1782#comment-37387 If I recall... they certainly competed against Gonzaga.... They may not have won... but they competed. If I recall… they certainly competed against Gonzaga…. They may not have won… but they competed.

]]> By: silkyslim http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/12/28/good-bad-and-ugly-lipscomb/comment-page-1/#comment-37388 silkyslim Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:39:19 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1782#comment-37388 If the first half was any indication of future success then IU will be fun to watch!<br> If the 2nd half is any indication (of a young inexperienced team) this year will be a roller coaster ride to watch.<br> IMO, any game that we are in at the end & a chance to win is a GOOD game with this young group.<br> I still enjoyed the game as I see progress & effort, ( AND a program with integrity!) If the first half was any indication of future success then IU will be fun to watch!
If the 2nd half is any indication (of a young inexperienced team) this year will be a roller coaster ride to watch.
IMO, any game that we are in at the end & a chance to win is a GOOD game with this young group.
I still enjoyed the game as I see progress & effort, ( AND a program with integrity!)

]]> By: NC Fat Boy http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/12/28/good-bad-and-ugly-lipscomb/comment-page-1/#comment-21906 NC Fat Boy Wed, 31 Dec 2008 02:51:48 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1782#comment-21906 If I recall... they certainly competed against Gonzaga.... They may not have won... but they competed. If I recall… they certainly competed against Gonzaga…. They may not have won… but they competed.

]]> By: silkyslim http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/12/28/good-bad-and-ugly-lipscomb/comment-page-1/#comment-21905 silkyslim Wed, 31 Dec 2008 02:39:19 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1782#comment-21905 If the first half was any indication of future success then IU will be fun to watch!<br> If the 2nd half is any indication (of a young inexperienced team) this year will be a roller coaster ride to watch.<br> IMO, any game that we are in at the end & a chance to win is a GOOD game with this young group.<br> I still enjoyed the game as I see progress & effort, ( AND a program with integrity!) If the first half was any indication of future success then IU will be fun to watch!
If the 2nd half is any indication (of a young inexperienced team) this year will be a roller coaster ride to watch.
IMO, any game that we are in at the end & a chance to win is a GOOD game with this young group.
I still enjoyed the game as I see progress & effort, ( AND a program with integrity!)

]]> By: Drode http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/12/28/good-bad-and-ugly-lipscomb/comment-page-1/#comment-67202 Drode Tue, 30 Dec 2008 14:40:00 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1782#comment-67202 Couldn't have said it better myself. Couldn’t have said it better myself.

]]> By: ChicagoHoosier http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/12/28/good-bad-and-ugly-lipscomb/comment-page-1/#comment-21898 ChicagoHoosier Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:37:56 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1782#comment-21898 I am somewhat confused as to why people believe that IU should beat Lipscomb "this year or any year"... "on the road or at home"... or whatever stipulations that were put out there. The fact of the matter is that Lipscomb has played together longer, has more experience and was the better team for 40 minutes. I believe that is what wins games, not the name of school being worn on the jersey... To echo some of the sentiment above, its time to walk the walk. Let’s take our lumps with a stiff upper lip I am somewhat confused as to why people believe that IU should beat Lipscomb “this year or any year”… “on the road or at home”… or whatever stipulations that were put out there. The fact of the matter is that Lipscomb has played together longer, has more experience and was the better team for 40 minutes. I believe that is what wins games, not the name of school being worn on the jersey… To echo some of the sentiment above, its time to walk the walk. Let’s take our lumps with a stiff upper lip

]]> By: cooper http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/12/28/good-bad-and-ugly-lipscomb/comment-page-1/#comment-21897 cooper Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:39:30 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1782#comment-21897 You can still support a team and criticize them. The issue is its still a D1 school at at major college. Losing to Lipscomb at home after losing to NU at home is not acceptable no matter what year. Because both of those teams sucked. I honestly don't believe IU could compete or win in any D1 conference. It is what it is and there is nothing wrong with saying it You can still support a team and criticize them. The issue is its still a D1 school at at major college. Losing to Lipscomb at home after losing to NU at home is not acceptable no matter what year. Because both of those teams sucked. I honestly don't believe IU could compete or win in any D1 conference. It is what it is and there is nothing wrong with saying it

]]> By: Alex http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/12/28/good-bad-and-ugly-lipscomb/comment-page-1/#comment-21896 Alex Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:25:28 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1782#comment-21896 Agree with you that things need to stay as positive as possible, but its also hard to justify losing at home to Lipscomb. I think we've been more than fair with our commentary of the season to-date. Agree with you that things need to stay as positive as possible, but its also hard to justify losing at home to Lipscomb. I think we've been more than fair with our commentary of the season to-date.

]]> By: cookcmc http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/12/28/good-bad-and-ugly-lipscomb/comment-page-1/#comment-21895 cookcmc Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:10:31 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1782#comment-21895 Amen brother Amen brother

]]> By: woodpecker http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/12/28/good-bad-and-ugly-lipscomb/comment-page-1/#comment-21894 woodpecker Tue, 30 Dec 2008 04:09:21 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1782#comment-21894 Oh lordy, I am finished reading this site for a while......... I understand everyone has a right to their opinion, but if everyone would veiw things with a realistic poin of view then there would be nothing to bitch about. This team has what 10 true freshmen on it? All of whom were recruited well after May? C'mon folks.... Good God be gratefull we have a full roster, and some brave young men who took the challlenge to play here. And it is a challenge, and I respect these "young' men big time for it!<br><br>Jesus beating up on this team is easy, we all knew it was going to be a really rough year yet some expect it to happen NOW! I would bet everyone bitching has never played a minute or down of college athletics ever. Rome was not buult in a day and I guarantee all of you, IU will take at least 3 years to be a legitimate top 3 Big Ten type squad........... It WILL TAKE TIME.<br><br>This entire team is dealing with a new home, class, practice, and an IU basketball schedule. This team has no leader, J Rivers would do wonders for this team right now I think but........<br><br>Everyone please be patient, better times are on the horizon. This team needs encouragement ... not a bunch of fair weather fans. Oh lordy, I am finished reading this site for a while……… I understand everyone has a right to their opinion, but if everyone would veiw things with a realistic poin of view then there would be nothing to bitch about. This team has what 10 true freshmen on it? All of whom were recruited well after May? C'mon folks…. Good God be gratefull we have a full roster, and some brave young men who took the challlenge to play here. And it is a challenge, and I respect these “young' men big time for it!

Jesus beating up on this team is easy, we all knew it was going to be a really rough year yet some expect it to happen NOW! I would bet everyone bitching has never played a minute or down of college athletics ever. Rome was not buult in a day and I guarantee all of you, IU will take at least 3 years to be a legitimate top 3 Big Ten type squad……….. It WILL TAKE TIME.

This entire team is dealing with a new home, class, practice, and an IU basketball schedule. This team has no leader, J Rivers would do wonders for this team right now I think but……..

Everyone please be patient, better times are on the horizon. This team needs encouragement … not a bunch of fair weather fans.

]]> By: 05hoosier http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/12/28/good-bad-and-ugly-lipscomb/comment-page-1/#comment-67201 05hoosier Tue, 30 Dec 2008 00:08:00 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1782#comment-67201 I don't disagree with your point, however, think Jones has a much higher upside than more, therefore he should get the majority of the minutes at that position. Sadly, the outcome of the season will be the same whether Moore or Verdell plays the point. Why not try to develop Jones instead of playing Moore who simply will never be able to play at the level we need to contend in the Big Ten. On a side note, I live in Bloomington, and have been to all Bloomington South home games this season and Moore would be sitting the bench behind Hulls right now. If anyone has a chance to watch the kid play take it, he is something special on the floor and will make an immediate impact next year. I don’t disagree with your point, however, think Jones has a much higher upside than more, therefore he should get the majority of the minutes at that position. Sadly, the outcome of the season will be the same whether Moore or Verdell plays the point. Why not try to develop Jones instead of playing Moore who simply will never be able to play at the level we need to contend in the Big Ten.

On a side note, I live in Bloomington, and have been to all Bloomington South home games this season and Moore would be sitting the bench behind Hulls right now. If anyone has a chance to watch the kid play take it, he is something special on the floor and will make an immediate impact next year.

]]> By: SteveEyl http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/12/28/good-bad-and-ugly-lipscomb/comment-page-1/#comment-21893 SteveEyl Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:12:41 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1782#comment-21893 whoever said this year is about getting better is right.<br><br>Problem is, this team is not getting better.<br><br>We are allowed to criticize this team. They should beat Lipscomb at home. This year or any year. Period. whoever said this year is about getting better is right.

Problem is, this team is not getting better.

We are allowed to criticize this team. They should beat Lipscomb at home. This year or any year. Period.

]]> By: MPmike http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/12/28/good-bad-and-ugly-lipscomb/comment-page-1/#comment-21892 MPmike Mon, 29 Dec 2008 22:28:28 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1782#comment-21892 I agree. Jones just doesn't have a point guard savy and toughness. He needs to improve during the course of this season and the rest of the off season, if he wants to play. I don't see him playing next year. Hopefully, he can turn his play around. I agree. Jones just doesn't have a point guard savy and toughness. He needs to improve during the course of this season and the rest of the off season, if he wants to play. I don't see him playing next year. Hopefully, he can turn his play around.

]]> By: Alex http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/12/28/good-bad-and-ugly-lipscomb/comment-page-1/#comment-21891 Alex Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:07:49 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1782#comment-21891 I'm not sure Jones is the point guard of the future. He needs work on his handle and will need to get stronger to be an impact player. <br><br>Agree with you 100% on the screens for Roth. I'm not sure Jones is the point guard of the future. He needs work on his handle and will need to get stronger to be an impact player.

Agree with you 100% on the screens for Roth.

]]> By: Kelin Blab http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/12/28/good-bad-and-ugly-lipscomb/comment-page-1/#comment-21890 Kelin Blab Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:11:45 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1782#comment-21890 Am I missing something with Verdell Jones.....<br><br>Is D.Moore a better pure point guard...yes, but yes on this team. VJ is an ideal point/guard for the future of this team and I rather he learn now than later. He can get his own shot, and he is not a defensive mismatch for our team. UCONN guards are not 5'9 people, give VJ a chance and call out screens for him.......<br><br>Roth needs screens set for him....helluva shooter but he needs screens. Am I missing something with Verdell Jones…..

Is D.Moore a better pure point guard…yes, but yes on this team. VJ is an ideal point/guard for the future of this team and I rather he learn now than later. He can get his own shot, and he is not a defensive mismatch for our team. UCONN guards are not 5'9 people, give VJ a chance and call out screens for him…….

Roth needs screens set for him….helluva shooter but he needs screens.

]]> By: Alex http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/12/28/good-bad-and-ugly-lipscomb/comment-page-1/#comment-21889 Alex Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:31:27 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1782#comment-21889 Not sure if it's the smallest school, but I'd put it as a top contender for the worst loss ever at Assembly Hall. Not sure if it's the smallest school, but I'd put it as a top contender for the worst loss ever at Assembly Hall.

]]> By: Super Suhr http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/12/28/good-bad-and-ugly-lipscomb/comment-page-1/#comment-21888 Super Suhr Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:34:48 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1782#comment-21888 This has to be the smallest school IU's ever lost to in Assembly Hall...anybody know for sure? This has to be the smallest school IU's ever lost to in Assembly Hall…anybody know for sure?

]]> By: Alex http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/12/28/good-bad-and-ugly-lipscomb/comment-page-1/#comment-21887 Alex Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:35:14 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1782#comment-21887 This was mentioned in the game recap. This was mentioned in the game recap.

]]> By: cooper http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/12/28/good-bad-and-ugly-lipscomb/comment-page-1/#comment-21886 cooper Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:16:02 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1782#comment-21886 I find a number of things troubling regardless of the score or awful performance. They just don't seem to get better or make adjustments. In the game yesterday Roth ran off one screen early in the 1st half and the rest of the game sat in the corner bricking 3's. I don't mind bricking 3's but don't just stand there. For the life of me I don't see why he doesn't stay on the same side of the court as Pritchard so they can run a two man game, it stops the double team or results in Roth shooting open 3's. Pritchard was dominated by that Lipscomb player on offense, and he is going to foul out of a lot of games if he doesn't watch stupid fouls. God help him during Big 10 play. IU cannot dribble to save their life, the team has a number of fast breaks that end up with bad dribbling costing the team a score or scoring in spite of bad dribbling. Too many times IU ran the clock down to 10 secs and then threw the ball to Dumes hoping he would bail them out.<br><br>On the bright side it was nice to see Dumes play well, I think he can be a good player and he is the only player on the team who can create his own shot. You can live with his mistakes as he is the only player who can score on his own.<br><br>But how that performance can be called anything but bad (even for this team) I don't know I find a number of things troubling regardless of the score or awful performance. They just don't seem to get better or make adjustments. In the game yesterday Roth ran off one screen early in the 1st half and the rest of the game sat in the corner bricking 3's. I don't mind bricking 3's but don't just stand there. For the life of me I don't see why he doesn't stay on the same side of the court as Pritchard so they can run a two man game, it stops the double team or results in Roth shooting open 3's. Pritchard was dominated by that Lipscomb player on offense, and he is going to foul out of a lot of games if he doesn't watch stupid fouls. God help him during Big 10 play. IU cannot dribble to save their life, the team has a number of fast breaks that end up with bad dribbling costing the team a score or scoring in spite of bad dribbling. Too many times IU ran the clock down to 10 secs and then threw the ball to Dumes hoping he would bail them out.

On the bright side it was nice to see Dumes play well, I think he can be a good player and he is the only player on the team who can create his own shot. You can live with his mistakes as he is the only player who can score on his own.

But how that performance can be called anything but bad (even for this team) I don't know

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