Comments on: Good, Bad and Ugly: Cornell http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/11/30/good-bad-and-ugly-cornell/ Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:51:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: BGleas http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/11/30/good-bad-and-ugly-cornell/comment-page-1/#comment-39981 BGleas Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:58:53 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1554#comment-39981 Pritchard has definitely been the "star" up to this point, but the best thing that could happen for this team would be for Williams to pass him by, which would mean we'd have two consistent performers. <br><br>I have to say that Dumes has been most disappointing to me so far. We could have a nice little team if Pritchard keeps his play up, Williams develops and Dumes becomes the calming steady influence we all expected. Of course it would also be nice if Roth would find his jumper, I'm sure he will he's just adjusting to the speed of the game. Pritchard has definitely been the “star” up to this point, but the best thing that could happen for this team would be for Williams to pass him by, which would mean we'd have two consistent performers.

I have to say that Dumes has been most disappointing to me so far. We could have a nice little team if Pritchard keeps his play up, Williams develops and Dumes becomes the calming steady influence we all expected. Of course it would also be nice if Roth would find his jumper, I'm sure he will he's just adjusting to the speed of the game.

]]> By: cooper http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/11/30/good-bad-and-ugly-cornell/comment-page-1/#comment-39980 cooper Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:24:13 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1554#comment-39980 The difference is called upside, you know projecting what will happen at the end of the season....Prichard can barely jump above the rim. Do you really see Pritchard getting that much better or more athletic beause I don't. Williams is a guard and a freshman, he ofcourse is going to have a lot of turnovers he handles the ball more in on the perimeter, not to mention not having a great point guard to get them into the offense. Not to mention playing against more athletic players. However, he plays tough defense, doesn't appear to be intimidated by other teams players and does not force shots ala Dumes. Now if Pritchard can come out against Wake and guard Aminu and score on their front line then I'll happly say I'm wrong. But when I see a guy consistently outrebounded on the offense and defensive end against no one great (haragandy is not all that athletic) that makes me worry. Wake got 62 rebounds against Baylor, so we'll see what we can do on the boards The difference is called upside, you know projecting what will happen at the end of the season….Prichard can barely jump above the rim. Do you really see Pritchard getting that much better or more athletic beause I don't. Williams is a guard and a freshman, he ofcourse is going to have a lot of turnovers he handles the ball more in on the perimeter, not to mention not having a great point guard to get them into the offense. Not to mention playing against more athletic players. However, he plays tough defense, doesn't appear to be intimidated by other teams players and does not force shots ala Dumes. Now if Pritchard can come out against Wake and guard Aminu and score on their front line then I'll happly say I'm wrong. But when I see a guy consistently outrebounded on the offense and defensive end against no one great (haragandy is not all that athletic) that makes me worry. Wake got 62 rebounds against Baylor, so we'll see what we can do on the boards

]]> By: JerryCT http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/11/30/good-bad-and-ugly-cornell/comment-page-1/#comment-39979 JerryCT Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:41:05 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1554#comment-39979 Assuming that people base their conclusions on the first 6 games then excuse me if I share with everyone the facts . Mr "doesn't force it" Williams leads the team in turnovers for the season and has led in 3 games including your favorite game Cornell. He seems consistent in the TO department and in erratic elsewhere with the lowest A/TO ratio on the team.<br><br>Contrast with Pritchard and you will see he has led in scoring 4 of 6 games and is way better than Williams in every category but one for the season and in every game. Those are the facts and strangely enough also what I see in every game.<br><br>I hope you are right about Williams and I too am pulling for him but for the time being there is no case for the Hyperbole Assuming that people base their conclusions on the first 6 games then excuse me if I share with everyone the facts . Mr “doesn't force it” Williams leads the team in turnovers for the season and has led in 3 games including your favorite game Cornell. He seems consistent in the TO department and in erratic elsewhere with the lowest A/TO ratio on the team.

Contrast with Pritchard and you will see he has led in scoring 4 of 6 games and is way better than Williams in every category but one for the season and in every game. Those are the facts and strangely enough also what I see in every game.

I hope you are right about Williams and I too am pulling for him but for the time being there is no case for the Hyperbole

]]> By: cooper http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/11/30/good-bad-and-ugly-cornell/comment-page-1/#comment-39978 cooper Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:43:24 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1554#comment-39978 Williams is definitely the brightest star the team has going forward and by the end of the season will be the best player. Plays tough D, and doesn't force it on offense. Pritchard was playing against unathletic Ivy Leaguers and looked just as unathletic. He should score against the people guarding him. He is good but I'm not convinced he has the upside of Williams. As for Moore I don't see it. He is another one with the athletic abilities of an Ivy Leaguer. He doesn't shoot or defend. Watched some of Wake Forest last night and they are very athletic down low and on the perimeter. If Pritchard holds up against some of their players I'll change my tune, until then I'm not convinced Williams is definitely the brightest star the team has going forward and by the end of the season will be the best player. Plays tough D, and doesn't force it on offense. Pritchard was playing against unathletic Ivy Leaguers and looked just as unathletic. He should score against the people guarding him. He is good but I'm not convinced he has the upside of Williams. As for Moore I don't see it. He is another one with the athletic abilities of an Ivy Leaguer. He doesn't shoot or defend. Watched some of Wake Forest last night and they are very athletic down low and on the perimeter. If Pritchard holds up against some of their players I'll change my tune, until then I'm not convinced

]]> By: Hoosiergirl http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/11/30/good-bad-and-ugly-cornell/comment-page-1/#comment-39977 Hoosiergirl Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:58:37 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1554#comment-39977 The more I see of TC, the more I am "falling in love" with him as a coach. He is such a tremendous father figure to the young players coming in. The episode with Tom bending over Verdell on the floor after the accident, conforting him and telling him he is going to be okay.....I don't even think KS would be able to bend over that far. We are going to be a Elite 8 or Final 4 team by 2012. Marquette, you lost one of the greatest coaches ever, and we are sure glad he came here! The more I see of TC, the more I am “falling in love” with him as a coach. He is such a tremendous father figure to the young players coming in. The episode with Tom bending over Verdell on the floor after the accident, conforting him and telling him he is going to be okay…..I don't even think KS would be able to bend over that far. We are going to be a Elite 8 or Final 4 team by 2012. Marquette, you lost one of the greatest coaches ever, and we are sure glad he came here!

]]> By: BGleas http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/11/30/good-bad-and-ugly-cornell/comment-page-1/#comment-20660 BGleas Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:58:53 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1554#comment-20660 Pritchard has definitely been the "star" up to this point, but the best thing that could happen for this team would be for Williams to pass him by, which would mean we'd have two consistent performers. <br><br>I have to say that Dumes has been most disappointing to me so far. We could have a nice little team if Pritchard keeps his play up, Williams develops and Dumes becomes the calming steady influence we all expected. Of course it would also be nice if Roth would find his jumper, I'm sure he will he's just adjusting to the speed of the game. Pritchard has definitely been the “star” up to this point, but the best thing that could happen for this team would be for Williams to pass him by, which would mean we'd have two consistent performers.

I have to say that Dumes has been most disappointing to me so far. We could have a nice little team if Pritchard keeps his play up, Williams develops and Dumes becomes the calming steady influence we all expected. Of course it would also be nice if Roth would find his jumper, I'm sure he will he's just adjusting to the speed of the game.

]]> By: cooper http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/11/30/good-bad-and-ugly-cornell/comment-page-1/#comment-20657 cooper Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:24:13 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1554#comment-20657 The difference is called upside, you know projecting what will happen at the end of the season....Prichard can barely jump above the rim. Do you really see Pritchard getting that much better or more athletic beause I don't. Williams is a guard and a freshman, he ofcourse is going to have a lot of turnovers he handles the ball more in on the perimeter, not to mention not having a great point guard to get them into the offense. Not to mention playing against more athletic players. However, he plays tough defense, doesn't appear to be intimidated by other teams players and does not force shots ala Dumes. Now if Pritchard can come out against Wake and guard Aminu and score on their front line then I'll happly say I'm wrong. But when I see a guy consistently outrebounded on the offense and defensive end against no one great (haragandy is not all that athletic) that makes me worry. Wake got 62 rebounds against Baylor, so we'll see what we can do on the boards The difference is called upside, you know projecting what will happen at the end of the season….Prichard can barely jump above the rim. Do you really see Pritchard getting that much better or more athletic beause I don't. Williams is a guard and a freshman, he ofcourse is going to have a lot of turnovers he handles the ball more in on the perimeter, not to mention not having a great point guard to get them into the offense. Not to mention playing against more athletic players. However, he plays tough defense, doesn't appear to be intimidated by other teams players and does not force shots ala Dumes. Now if Pritchard can come out against Wake and guard Aminu and score on their front line then I'll happly say I'm wrong. But when I see a guy consistently outrebounded on the offense and defensive end against no one great (haragandy is not all that athletic) that makes me worry. Wake got 62 rebounds against Baylor, so we'll see what we can do on the boards

]]> By: JerryCT http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/11/30/good-bad-and-ugly-cornell/comment-page-1/#comment-20654 JerryCT Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:41:05 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1554#comment-20654 Assuming that people base their conclusions on the first 6 games then excuse me if I share with everyone the facts . Mr "doesn't force it" Williams leads the team in turnovers for the season and has led in 3 games including your favorite game Cornell. He seems consistent in the TO department and in erratic elsewhere with the lowest A/TO ratio on the team.<br><br>Contrast with Pritchard and you will see he has led in scoring 4 of 6 games and is way better than Williams in every category but one for the season and in every game. Those are the facts and strangely enough also what I see in every game.<br><br>I hope you are right about Williams and I too am pulling for him but for the time being there is no case for the Hyperbole Assuming that people base their conclusions on the first 6 games then excuse me if I share with everyone the facts . Mr “doesn't force it” Williams leads the team in turnovers for the season and has led in 3 games including your favorite game Cornell. He seems consistent in the TO department and in erratic elsewhere with the lowest A/TO ratio on the team.

Contrast with Pritchard and you will see he has led in scoring 4 of 6 games and is way better than Williams in every category but one for the season and in every game. Those are the facts and strangely enough also what I see in every game.

I hope you are right about Williams and I too am pulling for him but for the time being there is no case for the Hyperbole

]]> By: cooper http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/11/30/good-bad-and-ugly-cornell/comment-page-1/#comment-20652 cooper Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:43:24 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1554#comment-20652 Williams is definitely the brightest star the team has going forward and by the end of the season will be the best player. Plays tough D, and doesn't force it on offense. Pritchard was playing against unathletic Ivy Leaguers and looked just as unathletic. He should score against the people guarding him. He is good but I'm not convinced he has the upside of Williams. As for Moore I don't see it. He is another one with the athletic abilities of an Ivy Leaguer. He doesn't shoot or defend. Watched some of Wake Forest last night and they are very athletic down low and on the perimeter. If Pritchard holds up against some of their players I'll change my tune, until then I'm not convinced Williams is definitely the brightest star the team has going forward and by the end of the season will be the best player. Plays tough D, and doesn't force it on offense. Pritchard was playing against unathletic Ivy Leaguers and looked just as unathletic. He should score against the people guarding him. He is good but I'm not convinced he has the upside of Williams. As for Moore I don't see it. He is another one with the athletic abilities of an Ivy Leaguer. He doesn't shoot or defend. Watched some of Wake Forest last night and they are very athletic down low and on the perimeter. If Pritchard holds up against some of their players I'll change my tune, until then I'm not convinced

]]> By: Hoosiergirl http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/11/30/good-bad-and-ugly-cornell/comment-page-1/#comment-20651 Hoosiergirl Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:58:37 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1554#comment-20651 The more I see of TC, the more I am "falling in love" with him as a coach. He is such a tremendous father figure to the young players coming in. The episode with Tom bending over Verdell on the floor after the accident, conforting him and telling him he is going to be okay.....I don't even think KS would be able to bend over that far. We are going to be a Elite 8 or Final 4 team by 2012. Marquette, you lost one of the greatest coaches ever, and we are sure glad he came here! The more I see of TC, the more I am “falling in love” with him as a coach. He is such a tremendous father figure to the young players coming in. The episode with Tom bending over Verdell on the floor after the accident, conforting him and telling him he is going to be okay…..I don't even think KS would be able to bend over that far. We are going to be a Elite 8 or Final 4 team by 2012. Marquette, you lost one of the greatest coaches ever, and we are sure glad he came here!

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