Good, Bad And Ugly: Northwestern State

  • 11/15/2008 10:31 pm in

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The Good:

We won. By all accounts, we’re not going to be able to soak in victory a lot this season, so enjoy this one. And heck, I’d venture as far to say we looked pretty good in that second half. It was but Northwestern State, but a win is a win is a win.

Daniel Moore, though undersized, handled the ball with poise, made good decisions and played with great confidence. It’s yet to be told whether he’ll play as well against better talent, but he’s a solid option when Verdell Jones is on the bench or playing one of the off-guard positions on the floor.

Early on here, it’s apparent Devan Dumes is going to be our scorer. He chipped in 21 points on 6-of-10 shooting and hit 4-of-8 from beyond the arc.

IU’s defense played well, forcing 30 turnovers on the night.

The Bad:

IU’s free throw shooting was a poor 28-of-41. For a team that isn’t going to be able to coast past teams on their talent alone, the Hoosiers absolutely need to improve in this area if they want to have a fighting chance once Big Ten season rolls around.

The Ugly: 

It got sloppy at points. This is to be expected with a young team that is not used to playing together. But 23 turnovers for the game isn’t going to cut it night in and night out.

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  • This was my first time watching this team, was actually quite impressed. Their hustle was very good – something I hope they never ever lose. They seemed to see the floor well – in more ways than one! lol Jones had a GREAT game. 18 points, 4 rebs, 3 blocks, 3 steals…..man, he will be a good one.

    Had to grin a bit when I seen Finkelmier out on the floor, never thought I'd see the day when he would blend right into the rest of the players on the floor.

  • This was my first time watching this team, was actually quite impressed. Their hustle was very good – something I hope they never ever lose. They seemed to see the floor well – in more ways than one! lol Jones had a GREAT game. 18 points, 4 rebs, 3 blocks, 3 steals…..man, he will be a good one.

    Had to grin a bit when I seen Finkelmier out on the floor, never thought I'd see the day when he would blend right into the rest of the players on the floor.

  • NC Fat Boy

    I thought it was a great outng for a young team. They were down early and rallied. They came out to start the second half with the first five points. The difference in this team from the team that played Bemidji State is remarkable. While they looked out of control at times early in the game, they settled in and were actually in synch at times. Must have been a great week of practice and prep.

    Virdell Jones established himself as the leader tonight, this team will go where he takes them. Devan Dumes showed his scoring ability. Pritchard even made a couple of layups. Daniel Moore and Brett Finkelmeier played well. Matt Roth looked good as well…

    24 offensive rebounds, need to work on the blockouts. Size would help :o)

    There were some defensive lapses, but that's expected.

    All in all, an impressive first outing compared to the exhibitions.

    The next 5 could be brutal.

  • NC Fat Boy

    I thought it was a great outng for a young team. They were down early and rallied. They came out to start the second half with the first five points. The difference in this team from the team that played Bemidji State is remarkable. While they looked out of control at times early in the game, they settled in and were actually in synch at times. Must have been a great week of practice and prep.

    Virdell Jones established himself as the leader tonight, this team will go where he takes them. Devan Dumes showed his scoring ability. Pritchard even made a couple of layups. Daniel Moore and Brett Finkelmeier played well. Matt Roth looked good as well…

    24 offensive rebounds, need to work on the blockouts. Size would help :o)

    There were some defensive lapses, but that's expected.

    All in all, an impressive first outing compared to the exhibitions.

    The next 5 could be brutal.

  • TXHoosier

    As the only guy watching basketball at an Austin sports bar tonight, I concur: they were sloppy at times, but I liked the overall effort. I'd love to beat Notre Dame to match up against Texas, but I know it's a long shot…

  • TXHoosier

    As the only guy watching basketball at an Austin sports bar tonight, I concur: they were sloppy at times, but I liked the overall effort. I'd love to beat Notre Dame to match up against Texas, but I know it's a long shot…

  • Sallad

    Daniel Moore: The Next Errek Suhr?

  • Sallad

    Daniel Moore: The Next Errek Suhr?

  • I could go along with that……

    btw, at least 5 of the turnovers were from the last 5 minutes of the game when the subs came in.

  • I could go along with that……

    btw, at least 5 of the turnovers were from the last 5 minutes of the game when the subs came in.

  • ButchJoyner

    I liked the play of V. Jones and the potential shown by Malik Story. Verry poor f.t. shooting which will have to be improved but lots of hustle (and turnovers as well). I can see the play improving over the season but lack of size will be a continual problem. At least we can smile for a few days—thanks VMI

  • ButchJoyner

    I liked the play of V. Jones and the potential shown by Malik Story. Verry poor f.t. shooting which will have to be improved but lots of hustle (and turnovers as well). I can see the play improving over the season but lack of size will be a continual problem. At least we can smile for a few days—thanks VMI

  • Taskmaster75

    What i was really impressed with was Pritchard. He had a double double. 13 points and 10 rebs. We are going to NEED him because he, if we use this game as evidence of the rest of the season, will be our only option. Jobe really didn't seem effective at all, but then again, he isn't Greg Oden or anything.

  • Taskmaster75

    What i was really impressed with was Pritchard. He had a double double. 13 points and 10 rebs. We are going to NEED him because he, if we use this game as evidence of the rest of the season, will be our only option. Jobe really didn't seem effective at all, but then again, he isn't Greg Oden or anything.

  • Ryan_T

    I love Daniel Moore's hustle and ability to bring the ball up the court in a hurry. In my opinion, Verdell just is too inexperienced or skinny or something to bring the ball up the court. His ball-handling skills are weak compared to where a point guard's ball-handling SHOULD be… especially at the big ten level… I feel like he's better for now at the 2 or 3. If I could choose the starting lineup, I'd put Daniel Moore up at point.

  • Ryan_T

    I love Daniel Moore's hustle and ability to bring the ball up the court in a hurry. In my opinion, Verdell just is too inexperienced or skinny or something to bring the ball up the court. His ball-handling skills are weak compared to where a point guard's ball-handling SHOULD be… especially at the big ten level… I feel like he's better for now at the 2 or 3. If I could choose the starting lineup, I'd put Daniel Moore up at point.

  • Ryan_Btown

    Ok, I love IU basketball more than anyone (besides the people on this forum, in which case, I love them as much as you), but we are really going to struggle. I think everyone already knows that and I don't mean to bring the mood down. But we aren't talking about the hustle and work ethic of a team that just beat Purdue here. We're talking about a team that just beat Northwestern State.

    I'm excited about the folks we have on the team and the fact that we have a great recruiting class, but I'm am terrified of going to Maui with these guys. I really thought I was watching a high school state championship game tonight. And that's not going to get it done at Maui or in the Big 10. I'm strappin' myself in for a long season. (sorry to be negative, I really do like these guys)

  • Ryan_Btown

    Ok, I love IU basketball more than anyone (besides the people on this forum, in which case, I love them as much as you), but we are really going to struggle. I think everyone already knows that and I don't mean to bring the mood down. But we aren't talking about the hustle and work ethic of a team that just beat Purdue here. We're talking about a team that just beat Northwestern State.

    I'm excited about the folks we have on the team and the fact that we have a great recruiting class, but I'm am terrified of going to Maui with these guys. I really thought I was watching a high school state championship game tonight. And that's not going to get it done at Maui or in the Big 10. I'm strappin' myself in for a long season. (sorry to be negative, I really do like these guys)

  • JerryCT

    I too liked the fact that they consistently fought to build their lead throughout the game. Not too productive on the wings however. I feel like Story and Williams are going to be over matched alot this year. I hope they donot get frustrated.

    ND will be a chance for a realistic comparison as to whether we are in fact the 152nd best team in Div 1. I hope we stalemate them in the backcourt and down low. I am lost as to how we are going to defend Harangody on the wing

  • JerryCT

    I too liked the fact that they consistently fought to build their lead throughout the game. Not too productive on the wings however. I feel like Story and Williams are going to be over matched alot this year. I hope they donot get frustrated.

    ND will be a chance for a realistic comparison as to whether we are in fact the 152nd best team in Div 1. I hope we stalemate them in the backcourt and down low. I am lost as to how we are going to defend Harangody on the wing

  • Hoosier_Hound

    I liked seeing the intensity the whole team brought the entire game. But they definitely looked out of control at times, downright bad at other points, and blatantly clueless on defense for possessions. Nevertheless, they showed remarkable improvement as the game wore on and there is plenty of more room for improvement as the season progresses. They'll need to get better from the free throw line and cut down on turnovers, and with experience they will hopefully improve on defense, especially in transition where they often forgot this was a full court game. But I'm choosing to be optimistic about all this, at least for now. The Hoosiers pulled away for a comfortable margin of victory in Tom Crean's first game, so yay to that.

    Plus, Kentucky lost to VMI in Lexington on Friday, so all in all this was a fantastic opening weekend for the season.

  • Hoosier_Hound

    I liked seeing the intensity the whole team brought the entire game. But they definitely looked out of control at times, downright bad at other points, and blatantly clueless on defense for possessions. Nevertheless, they showed remarkable improvement as the game wore on and there is plenty of more room for improvement as the season progresses. They'll need to get better from the free throw line and cut down on turnovers, and with experience they will hopefully improve on defense, especially in transition where they often forgot this was a full court game. But I'm choosing to be optimistic about all this, at least for now. The Hoosiers pulled away for a comfortable margin of victory in Tom Crean's first game, so yay to that.

    Plus, Kentucky lost to VMI in Lexington on Friday, so all in all this was a fantastic opening weekend for the season.

  • silkyslim

    Their youth & experience showed, but I LOVED their energy & effort. Looking forward to the the team's progress.

    p.s. I hope Crean spends a lot of time in the next few practices working on boxout rebounding.

  • silkyslim

    Their youth & experience showed, but I LOVED their energy & effort. Looking forward to the the team's progress.

    p.s. I hope Crean spends a lot of time in the next few practices working on boxout rebounding.

  • Like everyone else said the bad is kinda what we expected. Actually I was pleasently surprised with how well this team passed the ball tonight. Sure they made mistakes when trying to move the ball around but they were looking for each other and willing to give it up to get a better shot for the team. I'm excited to see what they do after a few more games with each other. We got some shooters and that could keep us in one or two games we shouldn't be in. If we win 5 games or 15 I don't care I'm excited about this new team.

  • Like everyone else said the bad is kinda what we expected. Actually I was pleasently surprised with how well this team passed the ball tonight. Sure they made mistakes when trying to move the ball around but they were looking for each other and willing to give it up to get a better shot for the team. I'm excited to see what they do after a few more games with each other. We got some shooters and that could keep us in one or two games we shouldn't be in. If we win 5 games or 15 I don't care I'm excited about this new team.

  • dale11

    Twas good to be able to watch this game with a clean conscience.

  • dale11

    Twas good to be able to watch this game with a clean conscience.

  • msdiu81

    We all know this team is going to be a work in progress and yes they have to work on all facets of their game except hustle. It's way too early to critique them and start discussing what they need to do. We all know what they need to do. Let them and Crean do their thing and go out an support them. The crowd was awesome last night and were really showing the team some love and very encouraging. That needs to continue throughout the season. Also, we need those seats filled.

  • msdiu81

    We all know this team is going to be a work in progress and yes they have to work on all facets of their game except hustle. It's way too early to critique them and start discussing what they need to do. We all know what they need to do. Let them and Crean do their thing and go out an support them. The crowd was awesome last night and were really showing the team some love and very encouraging. That needs to continue throughout the season. Also, we need those seats filled.

  • student

    I'm saying he's a fast Ryan Tapak.

  • student

    I'm saying he's a fast Ryan Tapak.

  • student

    I'm saying he's a fast Ryan Tapak.